International Elon Musk Sieg Heiling during his speech

[yetanother]

That's the kind of plausible deniability he and Trump thrive on while the target audience of their virtue signalling gets the message loud and clear. IMHO.

The neo-nazis are minuscule powerless group. They make for great TV villains because nobody supports them.

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

My perspective is that it is both.

Personally, I don't think he intended beforehand to make that Nazi salute twice in public.... But I think he admires that salute enough and has done it in private enough that it came out naturally.

^ Is this who Scyther turned into?

 

[ShadowRun]

Because there is profound and great shame in admitting that because it means you're a despicable person. That's why most people that are anti-semitic keep it hidden and even obfuscate their anti-Semitism with other overt-actions. I was raised by closet racists and I can tell you that they made certain that in public they said just enough things to make sure everyone knew they were not racists but in private they were racists nonetheless.

That's what musk does.


And visiting Auschwitz doesn't prove anything. Could be research on how it's all kind of exaggerated.....

The truth is there's tons of Nazi sympathizers on the right these days and it seems to be growing.

I'm not saying musk is a Nazi. I'm just saying he's sympathetic to Nazis and that's why he did a Nazi salute twice on stage without pre-planning to do so.

So all those actions, time, words spend about all that about the jews, is for nothing because he secretly loves Hitler .... Pathetic posts in this thread bro, I know you're smarter and a better poster.

 

[terrapin]

So all those actions, time, words spend about all that about the jews, is for nothing because he secretly loves Hitler .... Pathetic posts in this thread bro, I know you're smarter and a better poste.

Well that's how my father did it. So yes, that's easy to believe having witnessed it my whole life.... In fact, all of the racists that I've ever known through my upbringing were the same way. They are practiced liars.


And he's also done a lot of other things. He retweets a lot of very very suspicious tweets from white supremacists and Nazi adjacent types so don't paint a false picture there. There's evidence on both sides which is consistent with the kind of liars I was raised with.

 

[AZ103]

The guy that wears a Jewish necklace , talks about antisemitism all the time, visited Auschwitz a year ago, loves it in private.

Why doesn't he just come out and declare he loves it then? it's not a crime.

An IRL friend of mine says he doesnt beleive anything the ADL says because theyll shill for any zionist. When I asked him if Musk is a Nazi or Zionist he told me "theyre not mutually exclusive". That is what we are dealing with.

 

[terrapin]

An IRL friend of mine says he doesnt beleive anything the ADL says because theyll shill for any zionist. When I asked him if Musk is a Nazi or Zionist he told me "theyre not mutually exclusive". That is what we are dealing with.

The reason he said they are not mutually exclusive is because that group will support anti-semites as long as they are in support of Israel as a nation.

It's only absurd because you don't understand it.

 

[ShadowRun]

Well that's how my father did it. So yes, that's easy to believe having witnessed it my whole life.... In fact, all of the racists that I've ever known through my upbringing were the same way. They are practiced liars.


And he's also done a lot of other things. He retweets a lot of very very suspicious tweets from white supremacists and Nazi adjacent types so don't paint a false picture there. There's evidence on both sides which is consistent with the kind of liars I was raised with.

So you think anecdotal evidence is in play here?

One could say since your father was a racist, you are unconsciously a racist as well.

 

[lsa]

I’m not sure if we’re allowed to post nazis doing Nazi salutes. But if he wanted to
The “my heart goes out to you all” thing he could have done it like in the gif I posted. You know, when he gave the same meaning behind a gesture and didn’t do a Nazi salute

Neo Nazis think it was a Nazi salute. That should be enough

When he turned around and did it towards the flag, I wonder who's his heart went out to.
1 time mistake but when you do it twice, I start to wonder.
I dont know why Elon did it or for what reason, I am not an Elon whisperer, but I will say its a bad look.
And in 2025, well even in 1945, its a bad look, and you should try to avoid doing anything that looks close to a sieg heil arm move.

 

[terrapin]

So you think anecdotal evidence is in play here?

One could say since your father was a racist, you are unconsciously a racist as well.

I would say that being around liars like that who hide their prejudice has given me a keen eye to spot it when I see it and I see it with Trump and musk both.

You think it's absurd that someone would be a practiced liar like that, but I watched people do it their whole lives.

 

[ShadowRun]

I would say that being around liars like that who hide their prejudice has given me a keen eye to spot it when I see it and I see it with Trump and musk both.

You think it's absurd that someone would be a practiced liar like that, but I watched people do it their whole lives.

I think honestly you're reaching because you don't like them, so it's easy for you to think they're both secret Nazis because you want it to be true, which is you being intellectually dishonest. But of course you're allowed to think whatever you want Sherbro, we aren't gaining in grounds in this discussions so it's best to move on.

 

[terrapin]

I think honestly you're reaching because you don't like them, so it's easy for you to think they're both secret Nazis because you want it to be true, which is you being intellectually dishonest. But of course you're allowed to think whatever you want Sherbro, we aren't gaining in grounds in this discussions so it's best to move on.

I've said in this thread many times that musk is not a Nazi... you could at least try to get my position right. Musk is a Nazi sympathizer which is something different which has been growing on the right and I've met people in person who have displayed it.

Come on man. Just be honest with yourself. You know Trump is degrading the country and you know he's bringing everything down a couple of stages. You know he's a needle mover towards debauchery degeneracy lying in dishonesty chaos and division.

I don't believe anyone can't see it if they just take just a minute to look. I think you can see it if you just take a moment.

 

[ShadowRun]

I've said in this thread many times that musk is not a Nazi... you could at least try to get my position right. Musk is a Nazi sympathizer which is something different which has been growing on the right and I've met people in person who have displayed it.

Come on man. Just be honest with yourself. You know Trump is degrading the country and you know he's bringing everything down a couple of stages. You know he's a needle mover towards debauchery degeneracy lying in dishonesty chaos and division.

I don't believe anyone can't see it if they just take just a minute to look. I think you can see it if you just take a moment.

Where you been the last 4 years? Talking about Trump, he has no business being the president and does not act presidential but the country will get better not worse.

Sorry I said Nazi and not Nazi sympathizer. It's probably because I don't believe it and not sure you really believe that 100%.

 

[terrapin]

Where you been the last 4 years? Talking about Trump, he has no business being the president and does not act presidential but the country will get better not worse.

Sorry I said Nazi and not Nazi sympathizer. It's probably because I don't believe it and not sure you really believe that 100%.

It's never too late man to see the light and get on the side of Truth. It's not Democrats versus Trump and the Republicans who blindly and sinfully follow him. It's right versus wrong.

Trump is a sower of chaos, hatred and division.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Elon defenders have no excuse now.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Rent Free.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

You asked, I answered. You can decide the answer isn’t good enough for you, but I gave a clear direct answer to your question.

You didn't. You dodged the hell out of it. Don't act like that's not the truth.

I believe Nazis over anyone else when identifying Nazi stuff.

yeah, i know that's the line you're hanging on to for dear life. doesn't mean it's not horseshit. maybe you wanna share which nazis identified that salute? i hope it's not some single dude on twitter out of which you built this whole "the entire nazi community that exists solely in my head voted to declare musk's gesture a unimpeacheable nazi salute".

Also, it happened to have been recorded and blasted all over the Internet and I was able to see with my own two eyes Elon Musk giving a Nazi salute (twice).

The ADl watched the same footage and said it's not.
Are you better at identifying antisemitic gestures than the ADL?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

The same as someone saying I have a black friend so I could not possibly be racist.

Only this time it's the black friend saying you're not racist.
That's how it looks when the ADL, chief guardian against antisemitism, comes out saying musk's gesture is not a big deal.

 

[deviake]

An IRL friend of mine says he doesnt beleive anything the ADL says because theyll shill for any zionist. When I asked him if Musk is a Nazi or Zionist he told me "theyre not mutually exclusive". That is what we are dealing with.

Your friend is correct. It's an odd world with odd bedfellows