International Elon Musk Sieg Heiling during his speech

So how do you reconcile that with the ADL coming immediately saying what Musk did isn't a big deal?
The actual guardians for antisemitism in america have no problem with his gesture.
SO, how does it work, mentally?
The same as someone saying I have a black friend so I could not possibly be racist.
 
What you are doing is called gaslighting... or being gaslit by others and naively believing it.

That was a Nazi salute.

Not all fascist were nazis. I believe the salute was adopted by Italian fascists before nazis.
 
Yeah I didn't think you had any refutations either.

Sucks to be you, bitch. Where is your man idol @SuperAlly ? He should be in here defending your ass.
I'm wondering if your parents had the intuition that you'd turn out to be a pansy so they actually gave you that name, or did they give you a normal name but because you're such a pansy you call yourself that?

Serious reply please.
 
Good thing about all of this, the memes have been on point.

 
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I absolutely believe it was a dog whistle. “Can I sneak this by them and give myself plausible deniability?”

Again, earlier in this thread o posted a gif of him doing what he said without giving a Nazi salute. He touched his heart with both hands and then extended them to the audience.

This was a choice.
There's no denying that even if you believe this Administration isn't directly racist they have no qualms in accepting those endorsements and votes. People can say it's Democrats and TDS but what do they honestly think hate groups took away from that display?
 
As brilliant as he is in some respects, Musk is a total nerd with zero social graces or affability. His onstage exuberance is childlike and immature.
The “gesture” is one that has been around for centuries and in no way exclusive to any modern movement.
It was first depicted in the 1784 painting of the Oath of Horatii. A raised arm outstretched in Roman tradition, hence being called the “Roman Salute.”
Musk ain’t no Nazi.
 
that is true, in the sense that none of them nor elon made a nazi salute

On the one hand, you have someone holding their arms up and making random motions with it as they speak to a crowd. Then, while making these random movements, they happen to extend their arm for a moment.

On the other hand, you have Elon very intentionally putting his hand on his shoulder and then forcefully extending his arm out while making an O face.

You guys really should stick with the "he didn't realize what he was doing in the moment" argument. Because the "Democrats do it too" argument makes you look stupid.
 
As brilliant as he is in some respects, Musk is a total nerd with zero social graces or affability. His onstage exuberance is childlike and immature.
The “gesture” is one that has been around for centuries and in no way exclusive to any modern movement.
It was first depicted in the 1784 painting of the Oath of Horatii. A raised arm outstretched in Roman tradition, hence being called the “Roman Salute.”
Musk ain’t no Nazi.
Do you remember when that painting came out?? Did people of that time like it?
 
Ok. So your thinking is it was kind of a trolling thing? Not that Elon is an actual nazi?
Would you say that WS tend to be on the Right or the Left? Elon or Trump themselves don't have to be WSists but they sure aren't above courting their vote and it's no sure thing that they aren't WSists themselves.
 
Musk is an example of someone that has got to big for their own boots and needs to be brought back down a peg or two. It was quite obvious what he did and tasteless. It’ll come back to bite in the foreseeable to his business where it really hurts.
 
No, there aren't any Democrats who've done something that could be equally labeled as a Nazi salute. I've seen tons of people try to bring something up and say it looks similar, but they are also gaslighting and lying.

You are gas lighting and trying to get people to deny exactly what they saw which was a Nazi salute probably done unintentionally by a socially awkward idiot who has done it tons of times in private or who secretly admires it.
So just to be clear, you think it was done "unintentionally" by spastic Elon Musk, but you still want to be outraged over it and allude to it being intentional?

If there was no intent, why are you pretending to be offended that there was intent?

The modern left in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.
 
Presumably that wouldn't apply retroactively, so nobody would be stripped of citizenship, just denied it. Or am I missing something?
it does strip it for a 30-day period, that i believe is rolling.
 
There's no denying that even if you believe this Administration isn't directly racist they have no qualms in accepting those endorsements and votes. People can say it's Democrats and TDS but what do they honestly think hate groups took away from that display?

They know the score...its been their game for a while know

You can only downplay and demure so long
 
Would you say that WS tend to be on the Right or the Left? Elon or Trump themselves don't have to be WSists but they sure aren't above courting their vote and it's no sure thing that they aren't WSists themselves.
Honestly, I dont really consider WS a political position. I can only tell you my from my personal experience. I've been around the punk rock scene my entire life, and theres definitely a streak of nazi stuff around. Not common, really, but you'll come across it if you're around it enough. Skinheads at shows, just general rabble rousers, etc. Oi bands tend to have them show up pretty often and every time I ever saw the Dropkick Murphys there was alwayts a band of skins around and they'd even do the sieg heil during the show. None of the people wearing swastikas or nazi paraphernalia are anywhere close to right wing, quite the opposite.

But even with that I would never say ws is a left wing thing either. Like, a lot of those people are just trying to be "rebellious" and push the boundaries or just piss people off for kicks. I've come across a few "true believers" of the nazi or ws supremacist movement, and again they werent anywhere close to right wing.

I think its as close to a sure thing as you can get they arent WSist because theres absolutely nothing to indicate that they are outside of the absurd takes that the left has had ("omg, he said both sides!"). Trump especially did quite a bit in his first term to address unemployment among the black population and was generally been considered fairly socially progressive until he ran for president and then all of the sudden he was a racist dictator.
 
Libs can’t stand that they lost and are reaching for anything. I think it’s hysterical watching them meltdown. Maybe they ought to spend a little more energy, pushing out the progresses.
Sure the most high profile trump appointee and richest man in the world throwing nazi salutes at his inauguration is SUCH A REACH.... LOL

Let's be real, throwing multiple obvious Nazi salutes is nothing CLOSE to the horror of wearing a brown suit.
 
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