Elite boxers in ufc would crush UFC fighters

Human Bass said:
That has been debunked by the last 2 guys that Despaigne fought, 2 brawles that decided to be shitty wrestlers and they still won
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I don't even know who you're talking about.

Thank you for your random example of random guys though.
 
Westbrick said:
His first fight at LHW was vs Jan, protected by who?
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Jan is not a grappler. I said Alex was protected from grapplers. Jan is a Muay Thai champion.

Grappling has always been his major weakness.

Jan got DOMINATED by Alexander Gustafson in grappling.

Jan got DOMINATED by Corey Anderson in grappling.

Jan got DOMINATED by Glover Texeira in grappling.

Jan got DOMINATED by Magomed Ankalaev in grappling.

What decent grappler has Alex faced?
 
PeterGriffin said:
No, Ngannou "arguably" didn't. And you didn't even try to qualify that statement either. What happened when big Frank boxed a boxer that wasn't going to carry him through rounds? Floyd carried McGregor far longer than he should have.

The Paul's are Youtubers, and Mayweather's main concern is money. But you think that was a real match?
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There is absolutely no way you can spin that fight other than THE biggest humiliation in the history of boxing. A 100% green fighter doing that well in his debut against the top HW in the world (this was before Usyk) is beyond fathomable. We will likely NEVER see anything like that again in combat sports. And there has NEVER been anything like it before in all of history.
 
Some boxers could, most wouldn't.

Higher weight classes higher likelihood. Without significant cross training someone like Teofimo would lose to anyone with even decent grappling around his size.

But generally skills that translate to being an elite boxer mean they would likely be good at MMA as well (with training).

I recall about 10-15 years ago when I was in socal, sugar shane mosely training at a bjj gym rolling with some decent blue/purples getting tapped but trying to learn. Around the same time Shannon Briggs was teasing a crossover and going several minutes without being tapped at ATT with brown/black belts (they just couldn't take him down/if they did he would stand up Derrick Lewis style).

Style for style of course boxing < worse boxing, kicking, clinch, and grappling. This should be obvious to everyone.

However certain guys in boxing are very athletic and powerful for their size and would be threat to win quickly and hard to take down. I'm not sure if how good they are in boxing is a great measure of it though.

Someone like Tyson Fury who lacks one punch power, and is not physically powerful relative to his size could lose to anyone in MMA, while someone like Dillian Whyte (who Fury easily beat in boxing) can bench 400+ and squat in the 600s and is a much harder puncher would be way more likely to be a huge problem in MMA even without cross training (he has some).

At some point size, strength, natural athletic ability, natural fighting mentality > skill.

I think a HS wrestler could beat Floyd Mayweather. But there are certain boxers who could likely transition and make a run for the title. It's all size and match up dependant.
 
Intermission said:
He barely threw any punches
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Still, he managed to drop and survive against one of the best HW´s, then Joshua showed us how is done, if Ngannou had return to MMA people would still be amazed by that result, of course Fury didnt took him seriously and once he got dropped he took it pretty safe, surviving Fury was a decent accomplishment at that point.
 
Ray Mercer knocked out an elite hw from the UFC with rather ease. Hell the goat, fedor, got knocked the fuck out by some dude who couldn't even make it in the NFL. But the insecure mma fan gurls for some reason has this notion that elite people's from other sports can't do good in the UFC. Fact if the matter is that if you good enough to go pro in any other sport then mma, them you going to do it since they pay way way way better than the UFC. Hell cricket players in India make way way way more than ufc'ers. 🤣🤣🤣

So basically most of those who go pro in mma usually at the bottom end of the athletic spectrum. And that is only because of the shit pay. So of course elite boxers could do very well in the UFC.

And ops stance is that elite boxers are so much faster at striking than mma guys and it ain't even close. Like that kid who showed Alex P, speed kills.
 
Daniel Henry said:
James Toney lasted half a second against Randy just sayin....
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Couture took some of the best grapplers in the world to draws in submission grappling and was an olympic level wrestler, and fought Toney a natural middleweight who was a flat footed defensive boxer.

Worst possible style match up, and Couture took 3 minutes to finish him and Toney almost got back to his feet and escaped more than one submission attempt before losing.

You watch that, and think a worse wrestler closer to toneys natural size with a blue or purple belt could submit him?? Doubt it.
 
Those particular boxers you mentioned in your post, put them tomorrow in a MMA fight and 2 leg kicks they would be in agony and fall over on the floor, they wouldn't take them any better than any poster on here. If you aren't used to taking leg kicks and aren't trained for it you would be toast after a few leg kicks, they might even collapse after 1 well placed leg kick, they would buckle.
 
Dreyga_King of Sherbums said:
Jan is not a grappler. I said Alex was protected from grapplers. Jan is a Muay Thai champion.

Grappling has always been his major weakness.
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Pereira and Adesanya are pretty evenly matched up, both not great grapplers, how did Jan beat Adesanya? Grappling approach, its beyond me how it wasnt a replay against Pereira, but almost any MMA guy will have better grappling than Pereira, they dont need to be named Nurmagomedov to do it.
 
Elite boxers in the UFC would technically still be UFC fighters, and therefore... it's not a boxer crushing a fighter, it's a fighter fighting another fighter.

Only on Sherdog would people argue over Wayne Gretzky not making that three pointer during half-time at the World Series.
 
Damn! Even a 4-pager got Lightweighted!
 
markg171 said:
No, believe it or not I don't know who some random taekwondo guy is in a thread about boxers.

Crazy I know.
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His opponents debunked your theory that mma fighters wouldnt adapt when facing pure strikers. Sorry.
 
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