Elite boxers in ufc would crush UFC fighters

AndrewGolota48 said:
Ngannou arguably beat Fury in his first ever boxing match, flooring his ass in the process. Logan Paul fought Mayweather to a draw just because he was a bit bigger. Jake Paul doesn't take fights he's going to lose and he has Canelo on his radar, he's literally going to KO Canelo, just wait. Boxing has been exposed.

Congrats to boxing though, they have shown that they can win most boxing matches, after specifically training that one thing for their entire lives, against other athletes that have to limit themselves to that specific discipline. They couldn't even take over K-1 or BKFC because of the slight rules changes. Roy Jones was terrified to fight some bareknuckle guy in his own sport due to the ultra slight rule changes nullifying all the efficacy of his "martial arts"
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No, Ngannou "arguably" didn't. And you didn't even try to qualify that statement either. What happened when big Frank boxed a boxer that wasn't going to carry him through rounds? Floyd carried McGregor far longer than he should have.

The Paul's are Youtubers, and Mayweather's main concern is money. But you think that was a real match?
 
Human Bass said:
Rickenbackers have awful bridges, Im glad hipshot made a great replacement.

Now one pickups config I think about is a Stingray pickup paired with a old school P bass, the one that is a single piece.
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Yeah man I always wanted to own a stingray. That single giant humbucker with the distinctive 3+1 head stock. Pretty as shit. Great slap tones. I’ve heard guys play them with a pick in heavier music, as well.
 
I did amateur boxing. Was in some tournaments. Was good for an amateur.

Can confirm, sparred mma guys in gym, my boxing was better. Also did light mma sparring, I lost quickly. Really didn't stand much of a chance.

Boxers win at boxing and mma guys win at mma. Most of the time. Unless you are a freak like Mike Tyson, in his prime, I think he could walk into a mma cage and crush someone.
 
fedorthegoat777 said:
I did amateur boxing. Was in some tournaments. Was good for an amateur.

Can confirm, sparred mma guys in gym, my boxing was better. Also did light mma sparring, I lost quickly. Really didn't stand much of a chance.

Boxers win at boxing and mma guys win at mma. Most of the time. Unless you are a freak like Mike Tyson, in his prime, I think he could walk into a mma cage and crush someone.
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Modern UFC is mostly punching standing up
 
Just because an MMA fighter knows how to do a TD from training doesn't mean they'll magically change their style because "they're fighting a boxer" and actually do one (successfully) come fight night. They don't even do this when fighting MMA boxers. The reality is 99% of the time our guys come out fighting like they always do. Strikers strike and grapplers grapple. They'd do the same against a boxer crossing over too.

Some of y'all pretending like if we got Gaethje/Canelo Justin would pull out his D1 wrestling from the get go and that's beyond silly. Be honest and just admit he'd come out exactly the same as he always does looking to land big punches and big leg kicks. He's not suddenly becoming Khabib and shooting from across the octagon. He doesn't do that against any other strikers he happily strikes with.

What you're all REALLY saying is that if/when they get reality checked standing THEN they'd possibly change their game plan and look to try something different and fight like a "complete" fighter like they're supposed to be. The actual interesting question has never been could an MMA fighter take down a boxer and win like that. It's whether or not they simply don't get KO'd before that mindset shift. A grappler is going in there from the get go, but one of our strikers wouldn't be. MMA fighters fight to their strengths, not their opponent's weaknesses.
 
AndrewGolota48 said:
Ngannou arguably beat Fury in his first ever boxing match, flooring his ass in the process. Logan Paul fought Mayweather to a draw just because he was a bit bigger. Jake Paul doesn't take fights he's going to lose and he has Canelo on his radar, he's literally going to KO Canelo, just wait. Boxing has been exposed.

Congrats to boxing though, they have shown that they can win most boxing matches, after specifically training that one thing for their entire lives, against other athletes that have to limit themselves to that specific discipline. They couldn't even take over K-1 or BKFC because of the slight rules changes. Roy Jones was terrified to fight some bareknuckle guy in his own sport due to the ultra slight rule changes nullifying all the efficacy of his "martial arts"
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You're joking right? The paul brothers are just opportunists
 
Ares Black said:
Tenshin is awesome. Such a fun fighting style. Although I don't know if I'd call him a former MMA fighter. He's more of a kickboxer who did a bit of MMA and is now boxing.

www.tapology.com

Tenshin Nasukawa | Boxer Page | Tapology

Tenshin Nasukawa (7-0-0) is a Pro Boxer out of Matsudo, Chiba, Japan. View complete Tapology profile, bio, rankings, photos, news and record.
www.tapology.com www.tapology.com

I haven't watched him box but I'm sure he's great at that too.


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lol his combat sports record is completely insane

5-0 Pro Boxing
4-0 Pro MMA

42-0 Pro Kickboxing
(Wins over Horiguchi, Rodtang)

99-5-3 Amateur Kickboxing

The guy is 51-0 in professional combat sports, but many people have only seen his one loss, an exhibition boxing match with Floyd Mayweather.
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And still only 26.

Another guy you should keep your eye on is Nadaka Yoshinari: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/245507-yoshinari-nadaka
 
markg171 said:
Just because an MMA fighter knows how to do a TD from training doesn't mean they'll magically change their style because "they're fighting a boxer" and actually do one (successfully) come fight night. They don't even do this when fighting MMA boxers. The reality is 99% of the time our guys come out fighting like they always do. Strikers strike and grapplers grapple. They'd do the same against a boxer crossing over too.

Some of y'all pretending like if we got Gaethje/Canelo Justin would pull out his D1 wrestling from the get go and that's beyond silly. Be honest and just admit he'd come out exactly the same as he always does looking to land big punches and big leg kicks. He's not suddenly becoming Khabib and shooting from across the octagon. He doesn't do that against any other strikers he happily strikes with.

What you're all REALLY saying is that if/when they get reality checked standing THEN they'd possibly change their game plan and look to try something different and fight like a "complete" fighter like they're supposed to be. The actual interesting question has never been could an MMA fighter take down a boxer and win like that. It's whether or not they simply don't get KO'd before that mindset shift. A grappler is going in there from the get go, but one of our strikers wouldn't be. MMA fighters fight to their strengths, not their opponent's weaknesses.
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That has been debunked by the last 2 guys that Despaigne fought, 2 brawles that decided to be shitty wrestlers and they still won
 
markg171 said:
Just because an MMA fighter knows how to do a TD from training doesn't mean they'll magically change their style because "they're fighting a boxer" and actually do one (successfully) come fight night. They don't even do this when fighting MMA boxers. The reality is 99% of the time our guys come out fighting like they always do. Strikers strike and grapplers grapple. They'd do the same against a boxer crossing over too.

Some of y'all pretending like if we got Gaethje/Canelo Justin would pull out his D1 wrestling from the get go and that's beyond silly. Be honest and just admit he'd come out exactly the same as he always does looking to land big punches and big leg kicks. He's not suddenly becoming Khabib and shooting from across the octagon. He doesn't do that against any other strikers he happily strikes with.

What you're all REALLY saying is that if/when they get reality checked standing THEN they'd possibly change their game plan and look to try something different and fight like a "complete" fighter like they're supposed to be. The actual interesting question has never been could an MMA fighter take down a boxer and win like that. It's whether or not they simply don't get KO'd before that mindset shift. A grappler is going in there from the get go, but one of our strikers wouldn't be. MMA fighters fight to their strengths, not their opponent's weaknesses.
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outbreak92 said:
We had James toney but he was already fat old and out of shape. And we've seen adesanya and periera with almost no grappling become champions, so I don't know why it's a thing that couldn't happen
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Adesanya had over 11 years of grappling training when he came into the UFC

Pereira had been trading for several years and was protected from competent grapplers in 2 divisions
 
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