Crime Egg prices at an all time high.

[GearSolidMetal]

You're right. It's not just. But it is also. I think you and him probably agree on more than it appears

@LMP is saying to blame capitalism.
I am saying to blame crony-capitalism.

Crony capitalism - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

All of LMP's recent complaints about the economy he's attributing to capitalism is far more attributable to crony capitalism.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

it's another month, the cost of living has gone up, grocery prices are rising, and egg prices are at an all time high under trump's america. but at least you got some mean tweets out of it so it was all worth it right guys?

your rapey orange messiah really cares about you all, so i'm sure he will be busting out the sharpie and lowering the price of your eggs any day now. just not today.

 

[Khaosan]

Can somebody in the US let me know what the price per egg is if you shop at the cheapest store like Walmart and if you buy the cheapest eggs possible (usually largest package of eggs)

Costs about 1/4th of golden Trump sneakers or half a signed Trump bible. If that doesn’t clear things up, it costs about 1/8th of a Trump NFT where he’s dressed as an astronaut.

 

[LMP]

How about the 'Ultra-rich' that got rich through government contracts?
Ever heard of Lobbyists, LMP?
How about the middle-men of the Medicare and Healthcare Insurance systems?

You're pretending the 'Ultra-rich' are exclusively are giant corporations, Wallstreet, and Bankers while completely ignoring they're usually working hand-in-glove with government officials for mutual benefit.

Completely agreed with all of this.
The question is if what's your proposed solution to it is?
Elect more Democrats?




'Tax the rich.'

Yeah, because that's worked each and every time.
All every communist country.

You recognize that the ultra-rich are getting richer off government contracts, lobbying, and rigging the healthcare system, but instead of actually following that train of thought to its logical conclusion, you roll your eyes at taxing them and then… what? Keep voting for the same ultra-rich candidates bankrolled by billionaires and tech companies who make sure nothing ever changes? That’s the plan?

Electing people like Trump, DeSantis, or any of the other Republican grifters who pretend to be "anti-establishment" while being openly funded by the same corporate giants and hedge fund billionaires is the political equivalent of trusting a casino to help you get out of debt. These are the same politicians who cut corporate tax rates, gut regulations, and hand out government subsidies to the very companies you claim to be mad at. But sure, keep acting like the problem is some imaginary communist takeover instead of the fact that both parties are infested with corporate puppets who make sure working people stay screwed while their donors get richer.

The funniest part is watching right-wingers scream about Big Tech censorship while continuing to vote for politicians funded by those same tech companies. You can’t rant about the dangers of Silicon Valley while backing candidates who are on the payroll of the same billionaires running those companies. If anything, electing these people just speeds up the process of corporations running the government outright. You aren’t fighting corruption, you’re just choosing which group of rich people gets to rob you blind.

And yeah, "tax the rich" isn’t some magical fix, but pretending that cutting taxes for the ultra-wealthy has ever trickled down to help the average person is even dumber. The idea that the answer to corrupt government-corporate collusion is to let billionaires keep even more money is like saying the solution to a house fire is to throw more gasoline on it. At some point, you have to realize you’re not fighting the system, you’re just being played by the people who profit from keeping you angry at the wrong targets. I really think your head is so far up Trump's ass you can't breath. Its causing brain damage, not that there was much to damage to start with.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

You recognize that the ultra-rich are getting richer off government contracts, lobbying, and rigging the healthcare system, but instead of actually following that train of thought to its logical conclusion, you roll your eyes at taxing them and then… what? Keep voting for the same ultra-rich candidates bankrolled by billionaires and tech companies who make sure nothing ever changes? That’s the plan?

And your plan is to 'Tax the rich' when they get to determine their own income by demanding their contracts from the government to be increased by the same, if not more, amounts.

You think Bernie Sanders or whatever socialists wouldn't be bankrolled by the billionaires and tech companies? They're just puppets.

 

[WhiteMousse]

@LMP is saying to blame capitalism.
I am saying to blame crony-capitalism.

Crony capitalism - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

All of LMP's recent complaints about the economy he's attributing to capitalism is far more attributable to crony capitalism.

So I agree that Crony Capitalism is a real thing, and of course detrimental.

Do you agree that large entities in the private sector engage in immoral practices regardless of government connection? I think many do.

LMP is a good guy. And so are you. I like you both as people and I think you both have good points that, isolated, the other would accept and agree on. I'd recommend starting with that

 

[GearSolidMetal]

So I agree that Crony Capitalism is a real thing, and of course detrimental.

Do you agree that large entities in the private sector engage in immoral practices regardless of government connection? I think many do.

LMP is a good guy. And so are you. I like you both as people and I think you both have good points that, isolated, the other would accept and agree on. I'd recommend starting with that

I would agree, with it being 90% Crony Capitalism & 10% 'immoral practices' like the hiring of illegal aliens and cooking their books.

 

[curryjunkie]

You think Bernie Sanders or whatever socialists wouldn't be bankrolled by the billionaires and tech companies?

 

[evansusmc2]

Well, Well, Well: Trump Can’t Lower Egg Prices After All

Egg prices have hit an all-time high on the third day of Donald Trump’s presidency.

newrepublic.com

Thanks Trump!
I thought everyone voted for Trump so we can have cheap eggs and now they are higher than they have ever been.
Time to buy some chickens because 4 years of Trump you could be an egg millionaire.

Been discussed for a while. None of us thought it was a problem that would be fixed on day 1.

 

[WhiteMousse]

I would agree, with it being 90% Crony Capitalism & 10% 'immoral practices' like the hiring of illegal aliens and cooking their books.

Okay, what about my aforementioned? pushing margins to the detriment of consumers and the business itself for the short term gain of shareholders and upper management class?

 

[curryjunkie]

You recognize that the ultra-rich are getting richer off government contracts, lobbying, and rigging the healthcare system, but instead of actually following that train of thought to its logical conclusion, you roll your eyes at taxing them and then… what? Keep voting for the same ultra-rich candidates bankrolled by billionaires and tech companies who make sure nothing ever changes? That’s the plan?

Electing people like Trump, DeSantis, or any of the other Republican grifters who pretend to be "anti-establishment" while being openly funded by the same corporate giants and hedge fund billionaires is the political equivalent of trusting a casino to help you get out of debt. These are the same politicians who cut corporate tax rates, gut regulations, and hand out government subsidies to the very companies you claim to be mad at. But sure, keep acting like the problem is some imaginary communist takeover instead of the fact that both parties are infested with corporate puppets who make sure working people stay screwed while their donors get richer.

The funniest part is watching right-wingers scream about Big Tech censorship while continuing to vote for politicians funded by those same tech companies. You can’t rant about the dangers of Silicon Valley while backing candidates who are on the payroll of the same billionaires running those companies. If anything, electing these people just speeds up the process of corporations running the government outright. You aren’t fighting corruption, you’re just choosing which group of rich people gets to rob you blind.

And yeah, "tax the rich" isn’t some magical fix, but pretending that cutting taxes for the ultra-wealthy has ever trickled down to help the average person is even dumber. The idea that the answer to corrupt government-corporate collusion is to let billionaires keep even more money is like saying the solution to a house fire is to throw more gasoline on it. At some point, you have to realize you’re not fighting the system, you’re just being played by the people who profit from keeping you angry at the wrong targets. I really think your head is so far up Trump's ass you can't breath. Its causing brain damage, not that there was much to damage to start with.

and they tore into liz warren who was actually trying to do something about it, cos trump called her a funny nickname,fuckin hilarious how easily they are duped

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Okay, what about my aforementioned? pushing margins to the detriment of consumers and the business itself for the short term gain of shareholders and upper management class?

Oh I absolutely agree with that.
The problem is 'taxing the rich' isn't the solution to it.

 

[LMP]

and they tore into liz warren who was actually trying to do something about it, cos trump called her a funny nickname,fuckin hilarious how easily they are duped

These aren't serious people. Their argument are so fucking stupid.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Rob, you know I’m a filthy leftist, but the economy is complex, and there isn’t a single cause for rising costs or financial instability. Government spending plays a role, but so does corporate consolidation, supply chain disruptions, labor exploitation, and financial speculation. The idea that inflation and high costs are purely the result of government printing money ignores the reality that wealth concentration and corporate greed have far more impact on the average person’s daily expenses than fiscal policy alone.


Over the last few decades, corporate profits have skyrocketed while wages have remained stagnant. In the 1970s, CEO pay was about 30 times the average worker’s salary. Today, it’s over 300 times. Companies aren’t just responding to inflation; they are using it as an excuse to raise prices beyond what is necessary to maintain their margins. Oil companies, for example, reported record-breaking profits while simultaneously raising prices at the pump, not because their costs increased proportionally, but because they could. The same is true in the food industry, where major suppliers artificially limit production to keep prices high while raking in billions.


I get that it’s easy to point at government spending because it’s visible, but the real power lies with corporations who have no obligation to keep prices fair, wages livable, or housing affordable. That’s why wealth keeps getting hoarded at the top while regular people struggle, and why “just cut spending” is never going to be the magic fix.

I don’t disagree. Not even a little.

I just don’t think that particular track doesn’t get passed down on to us.

 

[WhiteMousse]

Oh I absolutely agree with that.
The problem is 'taxing the rich' isn't the solution to it.

A blanket application, I agree would be disastrous. I guess this reveals part of my more center/left leaning but I would be on board for some sort of taxing more of the ultra rich

 

[LMP]

I don’t disagree. Not even a little.

I just don’t think that particular track doesn’t get passed down on to us.

Workers had to unionize and fight for change because history shows that without collective action, corporations and the government do not voluntarily grant better wages, safer conditions, or fair treatment. The 40-hour workweek, overtime pay, child labor laws, and workplace safety regulations weren’t gifts from benevolent business owners; they were won through strikes, protests, and relentless organizing. And those fights weren’t just political battles—they were literal, physical fights against company militias, private security forces, and even the U.S. military.

During the late 19th and early 20th centuries, companies hired armed guards and thugs to break strikes, often with brutal violence. The Ludlow Massacre in 1914 saw striking coal miners and their families gunned down by the Colorado National Guard, acting on behalf of mine owners like John D. Rockefeller. The Battle of Blair Mountain in 1921 was one of the largest armed uprisings in U.S. history, where thousands of coal miners fought against private security forces and federal troops for the right to unionize. These weren’t peaceful disagreements; they were full-scale conflicts where corporations had so much power they could deploy military force against workers.

Today, after decades of corporate-backed propaganda and anti-union policies, people have been conditioned to see protests as destructive rather than necessary. When workers strike for fair wages, they’re called entitled. When people protest systemic issues, they’re labeled as rioters. Meanwhile, corporate lobbying, which costs the public far more than any protest ever could, is treated as just another part of the system. The reason for this shift is clear—those in power benefit from keeping people divided, discouraged, and afraid to fight back. Workers didn’t win rights by asking nicely, and they won’t keep them without a fight.

Had to Google some stuff on this reply, didn't recall everything off the top of my head.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

A blanket application, I agree would be disastrous. I guess this reveals part of my more center/left leaning but I would be on board for some sort of taxing more of the ultra rich

The problem with that is the 'Ultra-rich' will always get their pound of flesh one way or the other.
Tax them more? They'll increase the prices of the goods and services they provide to consumers.

Oh they already do that so might as well tax them more?
Great, they'll increase the prices even more then. Thought this was about lowering prices?

Let's find ways to reduce/eliminate crony capitalism first and then we'll talk about raising taxes, because what's the point of taxing the rich when the government is just a middle-man for the rich to get money back from?

 

[Deaths Head]

Well, Well, Well: Trump Can’t Lower Egg Prices After All

Egg prices have hit an all-time high on the third day of Donald Trump’s presidency.

newrepublic.com

Thanks Trump!
I thought everyone voted for Trump so we can have cheap eggs and now they are higher than they have ever been.
Time to buy some chickens because 4 years of Trump you could be an egg millionaire.

I got free eggs today from neighbors who have all sorts of animals, I’m ahead of the game . Lol

This is going to be Trump after he’s ran out his term ( if he’s still around ) he’s going to become a full fledged public villain and take over this moniker not just the character but the name fits him perfectly .

 

[Islam Imamate]

Well, Well, Well: Trump Can’t Lower Egg Prices After All

Egg prices have hit an all-time high on the third day of Donald Trump’s presidency.

newrepublic.com

Thanks Trump!
I thought everyone voted for Trump so we can have cheap eggs and now they are higher than they have ever been.
Time to buy some chickens because 4 years of Trump you could be an egg millionaire.

Nobody ever really cared about egg prices imo.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Workers had to unionize and fight for change because history shows that without collective action, corporations and the government do not voluntarily grant better wages, safer conditions, or fair treatment. The 40-hour workweek, overtime pay, child labor laws, and workplace safety regulations weren’t gifts from benevolent business owners; they were won through strikes, protests, and relentless organizing. And those fights weren’t just political battles—they were literal, physical fights against company militias, private security forces, and even the U.S. military.

During the late 19th and early 20th centuries, companies hired armed guards and thugs to break strikes, often with brutal violence. The Ludlow Massacre in 1914 saw striking coal miners and their families gunned down by the Colorado National Guard, acting on behalf of mine owners like John D. Rockefeller. The Battle of Blair Mountain in 1921 was one of the largest armed uprisings in U.S. history, where thousands of coal miners fought against private security forces and federal troops for the right to unionize. These weren’t peaceful disagreements; they were full-scale conflicts where corporations had so much power they could deploy military force against workers.

Today, after decades of corporate-backed propaganda and anti-union policies, people have been conditioned to see protests as destructive rather than necessary. When workers strike for fair wages, they’re called entitled. When people protest systemic issues, they’re labeled as rioters. Meanwhile, corporate lobbying, which costs the public far more than any protest ever could, is treated as just another part of the system. The reason for this shift is clear—those in power benefit from keeping people divided, discouraged, and afraid to fight back. Workers didn’t win rights by asking nicely, and they won’t keep them without a fight.

Had to Google some stuff on this reply, didn't recall everything off the top of my head.

My biggest issue with it all is how Occupy Wall Street was COMPLETELY dismantled in a coordinated way and replaced with racism and trans issues.

What an easy way redirect the rage.

I, once again, don’t disagree with a thing you’re saying. Yet, I still feel corporate tax increases just get passed down to the consumer.

I may have to start a new thread.

Title: It’s All So Tiresome