Movies Edward Norton acting performance in American History X

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That's impressive by itself though, considering more celebrated actors who people say play themselves in every role.
That's true, that's why I believe it was a decent acting job. Maybe more than decent. But I think 80% of the credit he gets for the role is just him getting buff.

Charlie Sheen got buff for hot shots part deux and nobody gives him credit for the acting job he did. But to me it was at least on par with Norton's.
 
That's true, that's why I believe it was a decent acting job. Maybe more than decent. But I think 80% of the credit he gets for the role is just him getting buff.

Charlie Sheen got buff for hot shots part deux and nobody gives him credit for the acting job he did. But to me it was at least on par with Norton's.
It wasn't just the muscle gain IMO it was him shedding his usual nerdyish roles...but to each their own.
 
It was good for it's time but Patrick Stewart in Green Room is my favorite.

I think Stacy Keech's performance in AHX is overlooked too. As is William Russ.
 
Great movie, between this and Fight Club are in my option his two best.

Read somewhere that Ed Norton pissed off someone in the industry which resulted in his sudden drop off.

Too much ego or too much integrity?...who the fuck knows but I'd much rather him as the Hulk than Mike "his friends call him Jojo" Ruffalo...
I'd prefer Ed Sheeran to Mark Ruffalo and that says a lot.
 
The most realistic part of that movie is the skinhead daddy-leader. I’m sure that’s how it plays out IRL.
 
I mean I don't think he was very convincing as a threatening person for the most part.

Tim Roth's skinhead in made in Britain was actually a menace.
Post pic of menace ?
 
It was certainly a masterclass performance. Ive seen people win oscars delivering less tbh. He definitely gave it his all and you see him go through quite the transformation through the course of the film. His roles in this, Primal Fear, 25th hour and Birdman are his standouts imo.
 
It was a masterful performance. That character would've required a lot of range, and to walk a fine line of being believable but not being too over the top about it. Late 90's Edward Norton seemed like he was the next De Niro, or something. Psycho from Primal Fear, Derek from AMX, Worm from Rounders, and narrator from Fight Club, all in the space of a few years.
He had so much potential. Guess he was difficult to work with and wanted control over everything. Too bad because that run in the mid-late 90s was crazy.
 
The whole skinhead boogeyman thing is very overplayed in my opinion. I'm not saying that they aren't out there. But it looks more like small gatherings of loser kids then any large scale organization.

I remember a bunch of the movie but it didn't have big rewatch potential. I saw it in a packed theater, but I remember more of the whole night's shenanigans then the movie. High School was so much fun.
I'm from a city that founded pen.1 and the neighboring city is supposedly filled with skinheads according to leftists. yet I have maybe seen 4 skinheads my entire life here and I assume they were just former felons who had to join the gang in prison. Those skin heads didn't even disrespect me or menace me. The point being that skin heads are not really a problem in real life. I have experienced more racism and danger from the black gangs here like crips calling me a donkey,bean*r and wetb*ck.
 
I'm from a city that founded pen.1 and the neighboring city is supposedly filled with skinheads according to leftists. yet I have maybe seen 4 skinheads my entire life here and I assume they were just former felons who had to join the gang in prison. Those skin heads didn't even disrespect me or menace me. The point being that skin heads are not really a problem in real life. I have experienced more racism and danger from the black gangs here like crips calling me a donkey,bean*r and wetb*ck.
Maybe they were Sharp skinheads instead of Neo-Nazi skinheads
 
Maybe they were Sharp skinheads instead of Neo-Nazi skinheads
They had Swastikas and lightning bolts maybe they just hated elon even way back then so they defaced their bodies in protest.
 
I'm from a city that founded pen.1 and the neighboring city is supposedly filled with skinheads according to leftists. yet I have maybe seen 4 skinheads my entire life here and I assume they were just former felons who had to join the gang in prison. Those skin heads didn't even disrespect me or menace me. The point being that skin heads are not really a problem in real life. I have experienced more racism and danger from the black gangs here like crips calling me a donkey,bean*r and wetb*ck.
here in NJ they treat every white guy with a shaved head like a skinhead. Even the wannabe skinheads I knew weren't as antisemitic as is popular on sherdog these days.

I probably caught more shit from these supposed Nazis for being tan and having black hair then they ever gave anyone else over race
 
I'm from a city that founded pen.1 and the neighboring city is supposedly filled with skinheads according to leftists. yet I have maybe seen 4 skinheads my entire life here and I assume they were just former felons who had to join the gang in prison. Those skin heads didn't even disrespect me or menace me. The point being that skin heads are not really a problem in real life. I have experienced more racism and danger from the black gangs here like crips calling me a donkey,bean*r and wetb*ck.
Growing up in eastern Washington, I remember seeing militia recruitment and meeting postings on the poster boards outside stores. Mid 80s. Share a border with Idaho, home of Hayden Lake and the Aryan nation. What i never remember seeing in my life is skinheads or organized white supremacy. Although knowing now how the feds operate, i question if any of it is or was organic. Case in point-

From 1991 to 1993, the FBI conducted an ambitious infiltration program code-named PATCON, short for Patriot Conspiracy. “Patriot” is an umbrella label for a loosely defined movement of antigovernment, racist, anti-Semitic, and/or Christian extremists. The PATCON program is documented in extraordinary detail in thousands of pages of FBI records obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. Interviews with people involved on both sides of the infiltration supplement this information.

PATCON consisted primarily of three FBI undercover agents posing as members of a fictional extremist group called the Veterans Aryan Movement. Three Patriot groups were the primary targets of PATCON – Civilian Materiel Assistance, the Texas Light Infantry, and the American Pistol and Rifle Association. PATCON agents roved the country for more than two years collecting intelligence on these and other Patriot organizations and on dozens of individuals, investigating leads on plots from the planned murder of federal agents to armed raids on nuclear power plants to a new American Revolution.

Despite spending hundreds of thousands of dollars and logging uncounted man-hours, PATCON and related investigations produced negligible results in terms of serious criminal convictions. Instead, PATCON became an intelligence tool, predicated on a series of suspected crimes, most of which were discussed but never committed.
 
Growing up in eastern Washington, I remember seeing militia recruitment and meeting postings on the poster boards outside stores. Mid 80s. Share a border with Idaho, home of Hayden Lake and the Aryan nation. What i never remember seeing in my life is skinheads or organized white supremacy. Although knowing now how the feds operate, i question if any of it is or was organic. Case in point-

From 1991 to 1993, the FBI conducted an ambitious infiltration program code-named PATCON, short for Patriot Conspiracy. “Patriot” is an umbrella label for a loosely defined movement of antigovernment, racist, anti-Semitic, and/or Christian extremists. The PATCON program is documented in extraordinary detail in thousands of pages of FBI records obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. Interviews with people involved on both sides of the infiltration supplement this information.

PATCON consisted primarily of three FBI undercover agents posing as members of a fictional extremist group called the Veterans Aryan Movement. Three Patriot groups were the primary targets of PATCON – Civilian Materiel Assistance, the Texas Light Infantry, and the American Pistol and Rifle Association. PATCON agents roved the country for more than two years collecting intelligence on these and other Patriot organizations and on dozens of individuals, investigating leads on plots from the planned murder of federal agents to armed raids on nuclear power plants to a new American Revolution.

Despite spending hundreds of thousands of dollars and logging uncounted man-hours, PATCON and related investigations produced negligible results in terms of serious criminal convictions. Instead, PATCON became an intelligence tool, predicated on a series of suspected crimes, most of which were discussed but never committed.
The irony is now I think the feds are doing that to the left with anti-fa and these hands off protests but they are also doing it with the proud boys.
 
The irony is now I think the feds are doing that to the left with anti-fa and these hands off protests but they are also doing it with the proud boys.
Problem, reaction, solution. Quite literally, everything is fake and gay. Our entire life and told history has been a gigantic psy-op. Harnessing, conditioning, and through submission controlling the collective consciousness.
 
Random street dudes. Ok. Black dudes that hang out on the court and play all day? Still think the skinhead all stars from high school would lose that one. Was anyone else from his crew on the team? The fat dude just camping out in the paint was like a 5 on 4 anyway.

Imagine being so racist you're mad about a fake basketball game in a movie.
 
The whole skinhead boogeyman thing is very overplayed in my opinion. I'm not saying that they aren't out there. But it looks more like small gatherings of loser kids then any large scale organization.

Yeah, it's overplayed in 2025.

But this is a movie that was filmed almost 30 years ago and written by a white dude's personal experiences growing up in California in the 1980s.

 
Yeah, it's overplayed in 2025.

But this is a movie that was filmed almost 30 years ago and written by a white dude's personal experiences growing up in California in the 1980s.

My experience growing up is overwhelmingly East Coast 90s.

From the wiki you linked;

"McKenna wrote and sold American History X when he was 26. It drew from his upbringing around the punk music scene, as well as interviews with real skinheads."

I'm sure the skinheads he interviewed were legendary badasses..... in their own minds. He probably got great pleasure writing the rape scene, "Nazi punks fuck off" fantasy based on the punk scene he self unidentified as a member of.
I was 17 when I saw it in the theater after a night of running over leaf bags and smashing mailboxes in a 79 bronco(very mature and tough). I'm also a local badass for delivering a beat down of a local skin at a misfits show, I should write movies too.

In all seriousness I enjoyed this stroll down memory lane
 
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