Eddie Hall vs Thor - March 19th

[randomg1t]

I would argue that every knockdown punch thrown was probably heavier than anything George Foreman, Earnie Shavers or Mike Tyson ever threw.

yeah... no.

prime mike would've knocked out both of these fools the first time he connected cleanly, which would probably have been inside the first minute.

these guys are big and obviously pack a lot of power, but let's not get carried away here.

 

[defjaam]

yeah... no.

prime mike would've knocked out both of these fools the first time he connected cleanly, which would probably have been inside the first minute.

these guys are big and obviously pack a lot of power, but let's not get carried away here.

yeah... no... Question is who is getting carried away here.

I didn't say that they would stand a chance against Tyson or Foreman or Pulev...
Steven Ward was holding back against Thor.

I was talking about the weight of the punch that they pack, which is all what my easy to comprehend comment says.

 

[randomg1t]

yeah... no... Question is who is getting carried away here.

I didn't say that they would stand a chance against Tyson or Foreman or Pulev...
Steven Ward was holding back against Thor.

I was talking about the weight of the punch that they pack, which is all what my easy to comprehend comment says.

it's not just about standing a chance, i'm talking about the power that the punches pack.

thor hit eddie flush more than once, dropping him, but not knocking him out. do you think a cleanly landed right hook from mike would not have knocked him out? because if it did, then clearly thor didn't punch him harder.

 

[defjaam]

it's not just about standing a chance, i'm talking about the power that the punches pack.

thor hit eddie flush more than once, dropping him, but not knocking him out. do you think a cleanly landed right hook from mike would not have knocked him out? because if it did, then clearly thor didn't punch him harder.

Mike's punches were sharper, shortened up, faster, better set up... He was overall a better puncher & boxer, just like Foreman.
I just don't think they were heavier.

In order to know for certain, I would have to get hit by all them... which I'd reject.

I think Holmes compared Shavers and Tyson, and he said getting hit by Shavers was like getting hit by a mac truck, whereas getting hit by Tyson was like getting hit by a Ferrari.
I imagine Thor / Hall are more like mac truck punchers.

 

[randomg1t]

Mike's punches were sharper, shortened up, faster, better set up... He was overall a better puncher & boxer, just like Foreman.
I just don't think they were heavier.

In order to know for certain, I would have to get hit by all them... which I'd reject.

I think Holmes compared Shavers and Tyson, and he said getting hit by Shavers was like getting hit by a mac truck, whereas getting hit by Tyson was like getting hit by a Ferrari.

and you think if both mike and thor punched you, the one from thor would feel worse? you'd be hurt by it more?

because that's absurd.

 

[GeneTunney7]

Thor has better technique than Wilder. Very surprised.

Thor's gas tank was legit! He was barely even sweating after 6 and said he was shocked 6 rounds went by, felt he could go another 6 rounds easily.

I've seen alot of people talking about how gassed they were, how sloppy and embarrassing they were, but for 350 pound novices, they actually did amazing. Usually when you deal with 300+ pound novices, you end up with Dada Kimbo part deux. Both guys probably built up incredible gas tanks and lungs from carrying around 450 pounds and doing strongman, which tests overall athletic capacities vs just weight lifting. Even Pudz in MMA has a decent gas tank. They probably both are on EPO and who knows what else (much like the Paul bros), but they definitely looked more polished than about any toughman contest you can find.

 

[defjaam]

and you think if both mike and thor punched you, the one from thor would feel worse? you'd be hurt by it more?

because that's absurd.

I don't know which part of "Mike is a better puncher" you didn't seem to get, but you seem bored.

Anyway, If you get to meet them somewhere, feel free to ask them to take a swing at you. Don't forget to let me know how it went, although you'll probably be forgetting a lot of stuff after that experience.

 

[randomg1t]

I don't know which part of "Mike is a better puncher" you didn't seem to get, but you seem bored.

Anyway, If you get to meet them somewhere, feel free to ask them to take a swing at you. Don't forget to let me know how it went, although you'll probably be forgetting a lot of stuff after that experience.

i'm trying to understand what you're saying. his punches are heavier, but mike's would hurt you more? how is it heavier, then?

what kind of difference do you expect to feel when the two of them punch you?

 

[Sir Punchalot]

Awesome fight. A pleasure to watch live.

What do you usually watch? Curling?

 

[GolovKing]

I feel like eddie is the naturally tougher guy and would beat Thor if they both were to fight untrained, especially on the streets. But Eddie is also a meathead and clearly either didn't take training as serious as Thor or is too stupid to realize the importance of getting real training

 

[Phlog]

So has anyone else put together Eddie tearing his left bicep and the fact he didn't throw his left during the fight?

Clearly that injury really fucked things, the southpaw was an effort to overcome it, shifting from that to regular was as close to a one two as he could create. I expect he re injured it but had to push through.

It's a real shame we couldn't see a healthy match up but Thor looked tight. Would have liked to see Eddie commit to inside using the left to guard against uppercuts and using his right to the body then head. I get the feeling his lack of ability to throw the left in anger screwed up his options.

I've fought much more experienced shorter fighters who have adopted a similar strategy to deal with my height and range once the inside was taken away. So I don't blame Eddie for the strategy. I think the comments re coaching are not entirely unfair, but that's about it.

Re Martyn Ford, I have a friend who trains with him, I know he's got a great base and has worked a lot on his bjj and striking, that he's freakishly strong and very athletic for his size, has a good gas tank. A fight between him and Thor would be really fun and my money would be on Ford.

 

[GeneTunney7]

So has anyone else put together Eddie tearing his left bicep and the fact he didn't throw his left during the fight?

Clearly that injury really fucked things, the southpaw was an effort to overcome it, shifting from that to regular was as close to a one two as he could create. I expect he re injured it but had to push through.

It's a real shame we couldn't see a healthy match up but Thor looked tight. Would have liked to see Eddie commit to inside using the left to guard against uppercuts and using his right to the body then head. I get the feeling his lack of ability to throw the left in anger screwed up his options.

I've fought much more experienced shorter fighters who have adopted a similar strategy to deal with my height and range once the inside was taken away. So I don't blame Eddie for the strategy. I think the comments re coaching are not entirely unfair, but that's about it.

Re Martyn Ford, I have a friend who trains with him, I know he's got a great base and has worked a lot on his bjj and striking, that he's freakishly strong and very athletic for his size, has a good gas tank. A fight between him and Thor would be really fun and my money would be on Ford.

Eddie mentioned that after his bicep tear, he was right back in the gym and had his hand glued to his head to prevent him from throwing it. I wonder if that was how that style was born, and he became solely reliant upon the big right. He also said he wanted to fight with just the one arm but the promoter insisted Devon take the fight instead and he get healthy, but it is conceivable he went in this fight less than 100% so he did not get crap for pulling out again.

I am sure over the next few months we will hear why he did this.

Thor said he will give him the rematch but Eddie needs to get the tattoo, pay Larry wheels the 10K he owes him and give the two hundred k donation to charity. I can see him doing the later two, but the tattoo may be tough for him to get. The funny thing is Eddie was the one that pushed for all this stuff, almost like he wanted to put so much pressure on him that he could not lose, but he did lose and now he has to pay the piper.

 

[jojoRed]

I would argue that every knockdown punch thrown was probably heavier than anything George Foreman, Earnie Shavers or Mike Tyson ever threw. Similar to Bob Sapp when he used to smack opponents to the floor.

Only way you would say this is if youve never boxed.

F=ma

That had mass, but was slow as fuck. George had both, especially when he was younger. Ernie too. Tyson had speed and a some mass, but I bet its heavier than Thor's.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

"Eddie would win in a street fight...Eddie is tougher...Eddie was hurt"

Stop with the fanboy excuses. Give Thor his respect. He beat that ass & won fair & square. Dont talk all that shit if you are always injured and can't back it up.
You know who also only throws spamming power right overhands? Beginner or amateur boxers who are not at the level they claimed to be.

I would watch a rematch. I would watch both guys fight again. Was impressed by both. Proved me wrong. Both multiple levels above what I expected in all categories.

 

[jojoRed]

I would watch a rematch. I would watch both guys fight again. Was impressed by both. Proved me wrong. Both multiple levels above what I expected in all categories

I was impressed by their cardio. Thor had tremendous cardio for someone his size, but tbh the workrate was really low per round. Still, I expect most their size to be done in 1 min. Props.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

I was impressed by their cardio. Thor had tremendous cardio for someone his size, but tbh the workrate was really low per round. Still, I expect most their size to be done in 1 min. Props.

Yes. I am impressed by the cardio too. However, we need to keep in mind this was a 6 rounder. Both dudes were less than fresh at the end. I wouldn't say Thor was gassed but he was coasting to a victory and playing it smart. Eddie was definitely gassed though.
I would like to see Thor do a 10 rounder.

 

[Madmick]

I would argue that every knockdown punch thrown was probably heavier than anything George Foreman, Earnie Shavers or Mike Tyson ever threw. Similar to Bob Sapp when he used to smack opponents to the floor.

LOL, OMFG no, are you out of your mind? They don't have that kind of speed-power.

 

[Phlog]

"Eddie would win in a street fight...Eddie is tougher...Eddie was hurt"

Stop with the fanboy excuses. Give Thor his respect. He beat that ass & won fair & square. Dont talk all that shit if you are always injured and can't back it up.
You know who also only throws spamming power right overhands? Beginner or amateur boxers who are not at the level they claimed to be.

I would watch a rematch. I would watch both guys fight again. Was impressed by both. Proved me wrong. Both multiple levels above what I expected in all categories.

Please.

I'm no fan of Eddie, but I'm not blind to what causes a fight to pan out. The shit he talked was just building the fight, he's an arsehole sure but he trained, fought, went hard. Couldn't ask for more.

Thor certainly did his part. He had the better frame and strategy.

We just didn't see the fight I wanted to see imo, although I'm glad it was as entertaining as it was.

 

[randomg1t]

Only way you would say this is if youve never boxed.

F=ma

That had mass, but was slow as fuck. George had both, especially when he was younger. Ernie too. Tyson had speed and a some mass, but I bet its heavier than Thor's.

i agree with the general sentiment of the post... but this F=ma part always irks me when it's posted.

a is acceleration, not speed. the equation is used to calculate how much force is required to add a certain acceleration to a body with the mass m.

what you're thinking of is momentum, which is mass multiplied with velocity.

sorry, i admit it's a common mistake people make, but it drives me nuts.

 

[GeneTunney7]

Now onto the important stuff: will Eddie make good on his bets?



He owes two hundred K to charity/possibly a million, 10K to Larry wheels, and to get a tattoo that says "world's strongest man: Hafthor Julius Bjornson"