Earth is safe from 'global warming'

[kpt018]

Just because I don't believe in man made global warming doesn't mean I enjoy breathing in dirty polluted air! I believe we should challenge our automotive companies to build and design more efficient cars, and continue to seek other clean energy solutions.

If you think a "great majority" of scientists is half then sure. Oh and your referring to the climate scientists that want to ensure the particular career they've chosen and are greatly invested in stays highly marketable? Anyone who knows this subject throughly knows the model their basing their "proof" on is an absolute joke! You should read about it........it's in books.

It's more like 95%. And your criticism is circumstantial and can be said of nearly every scientist that needs funding to do research (they all operate under the same type of pressure).

I'm with you on your first paragraph.

 

[Stokanator]

And how many of that 98% are state sponsored?

Every damn one of them! Apparently people are dumb enough to believe with government income from things like carbon credits, the last people their gonna employ are those who are calling the whole thing a scam.

 

[Misfit1]

pfft! Everybody knows the moon landing was filmed in a studio in Arizona.

 

[Stokanator]

It's more like 95%. And your criticism is circumstantial and can be said of nearly every scientist that needs funding to do research (they all operate under the same type of pressure).

I'm with you on your first paragraph.

Your probably right there, but do you think the government is really giving away funding to those who are trying to disprove the global warming theory at this time?

 

[TeTe]

When dealing with climate issues, climate scientists >>>>> aerospace engineers.

And 98% of climate scientists agree that humans are responsible for climate change.

Humans have sole responsibility? The number one factor in controlling the earths climate is the sun.. But somehow that gets ruled out.

It is hard to imagine that humans don't have some role in changing climate. But credible sources can be hard to find as for how responsible. Are we using a corporate payrolled scientist arguing against our contribution... Or are we using a government funded researcher?

 

[IDL]

Or we can just continue handing our money to big oil.

Don't worry, we will be doing that either way.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

About the fate of humanity?

Really?

Yes, really. You can't change it, so why are you worrying and acting like you have some sort of effect on it?

 

[FIMN]

Humans have sole responsibility? The number one factor in controlling the earths climate is the sun.. But somehow that gets ruled out.

Are you suggesting climatologists and other scientists don't factor in the sun when they conduct research and studies?

 

[IDL]

That's such a weak critique.

If you want to challenge what is now the consensus of climate scientists, you can challenge the science and evidence that support those conclusions. You can directly challenge their conclusions without all the circumstantial crap you throw out there all the time. That's the beauty of science.

The CT without evidence act is getting really old dude.

If I was in the position of wanting more power, I wouldn't need to lie in regards to science, although the inputs could be massaged a little. I would just publish the science that supports the end game, and leave out the rest.

That's how the agenda game works. If you pay for the research, you have sway over what gets published.

I'm not saying it's entirely a ruse, but really this agenda is coming from the same people who wreck the environment in the first place.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Money in maintaining current levels of fossil fuel extraction >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money to be made in climate science.

Oil is by far the greatest, most profitable energy source in world history, yet a handful of scientists trying to get grants are the ones that are going to twist facts for their gain.

Logic and reason are suspended when you enter the right-wing zone.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

So you don't consider raising the level of oceans, flooding large sections of currently settled land, extinguishing species, and the like vs not doing so "changing their destiny"?

You seem to think that human life is some unnatural plague. We're supposed to be here. Whatever happens on this planet is supposed to happen. We wouldn't be here if it wasn't.

 

[IDL]

Money in maintaining current levels of fossil fuel extraction >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money to be made in climate science.

Oil is by far the greatest, most profitable energy source in world history, yet a handful of scientists trying to get grants are the ones that are going to twist facts for their gain.

Logic and reason are suspended when you enter the right-wing zone.

Big oil and government are connected at the hip.

 

[Satanical Eve]

You seem to think that human life is some unnatural plague. We're supposed to be here. Whatever happens on this planet is supposed to happen. We wouldn't be here if it wasn't.

We as humans are supposed to be here on earth BUT what we are doing to it right now is not what was supposed to happen. If you think we aren't ruining this planet I got a bridge to sell you

 

[Ruprecht]

I'm 33 years old, when I was in middle school I remember some of my teachers consistently preaching about the hole in the ozone layer, that it was growing bigger and bigger with every passing year. The super extreme environmentalists crowd went as far as claiming if we didn't make immediate changes the world was going to be doomed in a matter of decades. Now you never if ever hear anything about it once their argument fell apart. It's undisputedly proven the ozone layer is created by the sun, and with places like the north and south poles where the sun doesn't shine 6 months out of the year it makes perfect sense the ozone would be weaker above that part of the world. This also explained why at certain times the hole was undetectable.

Is this some sort of joke? I honestly can't tell...

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

We as humans are supposed to be here on earth BUT what we are doing to it right now is not what was supposed to happen.

Of course it is. The Earth isn't going anywhere. Just because we're gonna die off earlier than you thought doesn't mean it wasn't supposed to happen.

 

[45ACP]

Is this some sort of joke? I honestly can't tell...

Um, yeah. I was under the impression that we don't worry about holes in the ozone layer anymore because legislation was passed around the globe that banned CFCs (the chemical compound that was the main cause of the deterioration of the ozone layer).

Or something like that.

 

[VulcanNervPinch]

I'm not sure about how to continue this conversation, because you're starting to just gibber incoherent nonsense.

Yes, really. You can't change it, so why are you worrying and acting like you have some sort of effect on it?

That's absurd. Humans are causing lots of things right now. Therefore humans have the power to stop them. Or continue, or increase, or whatever the case may be.

You seem to think that human life is some unnatural plague.

I never said anything remotely approaching that.

We're supposed to be here. Whatever happens on this planet is supposed to happen. We wouldn't be here if it wasn't.

Whatever happens is supposed to have happened, because if it wasn't, it wouldn't have happened?
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[kpt018]

You seem to think that human life is some unnatural plague. We're supposed to be here. Whatever happens on this planet is supposed to happen. We wouldn't be here if it wasn't.

What do you mean "supposed to happen"?

This line of thinking is so dangerous. It calls for no action and what is it based on? Destiny? God? SMH.

 

[afrdzak]

Um, yeah. I was under the impression that we don't worry about holes in the ozone layer anymore because legislation was passed around the globe that banned CFCs (the chemical compound that was the main cause of the deterioration of the ozone layer).

Or something like that.

Very true.

But then, even Fox News published this story today:

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/03/10/new-ozone-destroying-chemicals-discovered-in-atmosphere/

Looks like new man-made chemicals are attacking the ozone layer. Despite the ban of CFCs (which has been highly beneficial to ozone recovery), these new compounds are slowing said recovery.

 

[Jukai]

LOL

If your definition of "insignificant" is "won't cause the planet to explode into a million pieces like Alderaan", yes.
If your definition of "insignificant" is "won't wipe out most existing life forms", then it's far from a sure thing.

You do know that modern civilization would never survive even half of those temperature swings in your graph, right?

Awesome post.