International Douglas Murray goes off on Joe Rogan and Dave Smith for platforming holocaust revisionists

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

You're avoiding the question and just showing a tweet by some person I never heard of.

You said he said all this heinous shit on the podcast. Where in the podcast? What's the timestamp where he said all this stuff?

That guy's a single issue poster. All he posts about is Israel.

Why are you even bothering to engage with him? It's pointless.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

That guy's a single issue poster. All he posts about is Israel.

Why are you even bothering to engage with him? It's pointless.

Hey dumbfuck. Weren't you and the poster you're responding to in that Harvard math thread as well?

I come back from a long hiatus, and I'm kind of surprised to this dipshit still flapping his gums and polluting this place with empty calorie, low-effort nonsense.

Go back to your bunker and just stay there until Armageddon arrives. Trust me, we won't miss you.

 

[Gotosleepho]

To be fair though mate, lots of people are against Islam, and quite justifiably so. That's not to say they hate all Muslims, just the religion and the root of it and what it fundamentally teaches in black and white (of which is completely indisputable).
Also, Murray supported the war initially , as did many many people after being sold lies by the government and the media regarding weapons of mass destruction and the bs about how bad Saddam was to all of his people. He has since massively revised his opinions on that war and it's consequences.
The rest of what you've pointed out though does seem to be merely a case of he supports Israel, and you don't.
And you haven't explained what his vested interest is, except his bf is Israeli.

I actually like Israel and believe Judaism is the best religion in the world. But when I see the death toll in Gaza and all the dead children I cannot reconcile the two. As far as Islam being disliked, well I'm not a fan of Salafi fundamentalist Islam and it is too black and white, and ignores the nuances of spirituality. Anyways back to Murray, he's a vocal proponent of what Israel is currently doing and all his neocon positions of more wars in the Middle East are against my ideology. I would not be surprised one bit if he receives some financial compensation from any Israeli organization. If you support him then that's fine, we will agree to disagree.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

I actually like Israel and believe Judaism is the best religion in the world. But when I see the death toll in Gaza and all the dead children I cannot reconcile the two. As far as Islam being disliked, well I'm not a fan of Salafi fundamentalist Islam and it is too black and white, and ignores the nuances of spirituality. Anyways back to Murray, he's a vocal proponent of what Israel is currently doing and all his neocon positions of more wars in the Middle East are against my ideology. I would not be surprised one bit if he receives some financial compensation from any Israeli organization. If you support him then that's fine, we will agree to disagree.

I don't support him at all. I just think he knows a hell of a lot about what's going on there and without being hypocritical towards Israel, I can't see an argument to much of what he says about it. It very much seems like people who support Palestine over Israel, want to make excuses for how they respond to Israel or how they attack them, while saying Israel shouldn't be doing the same. You talk of dead children as if Palestinians have never killed innocent people/children.

I'd be curious to know what fundamental points Murray makes they you disagree with and why you disagree with them.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Hey dumbfuck. Weren't you and the poster you're responding to in that Harvard math thread as well?

I come back from a long hiatus, and I'm kind of surprised to this dipshit still flapping his gums and polluting this place with empty calorie, low-effort nonsense.

Go back to your bunker and just stay there until Armageddon arrives. Trust me, we won't miss you.

That's your other account you do the whole 'bunker' thing, bud.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

That's your other account you do the whole 'bunker' thing, bud.

What the hell does that even mean? That was neither grammatically correct nor even faintly expressed a single coherent thought.

Is this how you managed to rack up such a high post count in a short time span? By posting a bunch of incoherent, low-effort nonsense with no grammar check?

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

What the hell does that even mean? That was neither grammatically correct nor even faintly expressed a single coherent thought.

Is this how you managed to rack up such a high post count in a short time span? By posting a bunch of incoherent, low-effort nonsense with no grammar check?

It's your other account you use where you constantly say I live in a bunker. It's only that account that says it.

You fucked up.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

It's your other account you use where you constantly say I live in a bunker. It's only that account that says it.

You fucked up.

I think you've gotten me mistaken for another poster, pal.

Hey, listen. I don't want to further entertain this bunker nonsense, so how about you give me your thoughts on this Douglas Murray situation instead and explain to me why my statements in support for Murray's argument that anti-Semitic conspiracy theory peddlers and Nazi apologists shouldn't be given a platform are wrong, yeah?

And no, I have never mentioned anything about Israel in relation to this.

 

[fedoriswar37]

I think you've gotten me mistaken for another poster, pal.

Hey, listen. I don't want to further entertain this bunker nonsense, so how about you give me your thoughts on this Douglas Murray situation instead and explain to me why my statements in support for Murray's argument that anti-Semitic conspiracy theory peddlers and Nazi apologists shouldn't be given a platform are wrong, yeah?

And no, I have never mentioned anything about Israel in relation to this.

It's a fairly simple answer to be honest . Douglas Murray believes valid criticisms of isreal should be grouped in with "anti-semectic conspiracy theories ". Hes not impartial and therefore is a bullshit source of expertise. It doesn't matter how many times you go there if it's with rose colored glasses.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

It's a fairly simple answer to be honest . Douglas Murray believes valid criticisms of isreal should be grouped in with "anti-semectic conspiracy theories ". Hes not impartial and therefore is a bullshit source of expertise. It doesn't matter how many times you go there if it's with rose colored glasses.

Hey, dumbshit. Can you read? I didn't say anything about Israel other than the statement in the end that I never mentioned Israel in relation to this.

Rogan invited a Youtube hack named Ian Carroll, who claimed that the Rothschild family financed the Scofield Bible in order to "jewify" (his words) it and give it a positive slant towards Israel and Jewish people, and that Epstein was sex-trafficking on behalf of the Israeli government, along with other conspiracy theories regarding Jewish world dominance.

Also, engaging in Nazi history revisionism and apology is pretty fucking anti-Semitic per se.

I never mentioned anything about Israel in defense of Douglas Murray, so how about you make a better effort this time, Skip?

 

[fedoriswar37]

Hey, dumbshit. Can you read? I didn't say anything about Israel other than the statement in the end that I never mentioned Israel in relation to this.

Rogan invited a Youtube hack named Ian Carroll, who claimed that the Rothschild family financed the Scofield Bible in order to "jewify" (his words) it and give it a positive slant towards Israel and Jewish people, and that Epstein was sex-trafficking on behalf of the Israeli government, along with other conspiracy theories regarding Jewish world dominance.

Also, engaging in Nazi history revisionism and apology is pretty fucking anti-Semitic per se.

I never mentioned anything about Israel in defense of Douglas Murray, so how about you make a better effort this time, Skip?

Dude are you actually retarded? Serious question? Or a robot? You asked for thoughts on this Douglas Murray situation. You literally fucking followed it up with the phrase "anti sematic conspiracy peddlers" as if sherdog doesn't know exactly what you mean with that.

You missed my entire point cause you were rehearsing your freedom fighting in the mirror . So I'll repeat it in a more simple way for you. Douglas Murray is full of shit , he is no more the arbitrator of whats right or wrong then Dave Smith or Joe Rogan.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Dude are you actually retarded? Serious question? Or a robot? You asked for thoughts on this Douglas Murray situation. You literally fucking followed it up with the phrase "anti sematic conspiracy peddlers" as if sherdog doesn't know exactly what you mean with that.

Hmm, yes. Fascinating. Before you responded to me with this post, I had you pegged as a highly-functioning moron, according to the Goddard Scale, with an estimated IQ of 65, but now I'll have to take it down a notch to an estimated IQ of 28, which would officially classify you as an imbecile. Congratulations. I'll send this data over to Social Security so you can start collecting benefits for your mental impairment.

I have no idea what compelled you to respond to a quote that was originally directed at another poster in the first place, but since you insist on responding to it on his behalf, I'll bite...this shit sandwich you've given me and spit it back in your face, which will serve as a proper rebuttal.

So it appears that you have difficulty reading an entire sentence and processing its message, and responding to it with a valid argument. The sentence in question you were responding to was:

I don't want to further entertain this bunker nonsense, so how about you give me your thoughts on this Douglas Murray situation instead and explain to me why my statements in support for Murray's argument that anti-Semitic conspiracy theory peddlers and Nazi apologists shouldn't be given a platform are wrong, yeah?

Let's take out the all of the frivolous bullshit, and focus on the crux of this compound-complex sentence, which leaves us with

explain to me why my statements in support for Murray's argument that anti-Semitic conspiracy theory peddlers and Nazi apologists shouldn't be given a platform are wrong.

To which your first response was this:

It's a fairly simple answer to be honest . Douglas Murray believes valid criticisms of isreal should be grouped in with "anti-semectic conspiracy theories ". Hes not impartial and therefore is a bullshit source of expertise. It doesn't matter how many times you go there if it's with rose colored glasses.

To which I responded that I wasn't talking about Israel. I don't care about Douglas Murray's comments on criticisms against Israel. it's completely independent to what he said about not giving a platform to anti-Semitic conspiracy theory peddlers and Nazi apologists.

Let me dumb it down for you, asstwat: what the fuck does "JEWS CONTROL THE WORLD!" have anything to do with "ISRAEL IS COMMITTING GENOCIDE!"? They're completely independent to each other. So are you implying that it's now okay to say "Hitler was a good man!" and "Jews control the world!" only because Douglas Murray does not want guests saying "Israel is committing genocide!"?

Are you really this fucking stupid?

You missed my entire point cause you were rehearsing your freedom fighting in the mirror . So I'll repeat it in a more simple way for you. Douglas Murray is full of shit , he is no more the arbitrator of whats right or wrong then Dave Smith or Joe Rogan.

That's your fucking point? He's full of shit? Because he doesn't have the right to decide who's wrong or who's right any more than Dave Smith or Joe Rogan?

Well, let's suppose your point is valid, then. So do you think Darryl Cooper and Ian Carroll are right and that Douglas Murray is wrong for stating that Darryl Cooper and Ian Carroll are wrong?

Here's another dumbass response you gave me to the same question earlier in the thread, which had absolutely no point at all:

This is literally the most retarded argument lol like wtf. It's 2025 man. Like you just did , ANYBODY can access the internet to confirm or deny something they've heard. Its not 1920. We all have the history of the entire world at our finger tips. Stop crying. Just because people don't care to listen to YOU doesn't mean we can't listen to anybody else.

What the hell is your argument? You merely gave me a series of factual statements that cannot be refuted. How am I supposed to work with this?

Yeah, idiot. It is the year 2025. I have a calendar too. Yeah, Google exists. I use it myself and deal with its APIs all the time. Yeah, Wikipedia and history books exist too. And the First Amendment.

Since you have difficulty articulating your thoughts clearly (nor spell for shit nor punctuate correctly) and form a valid argument, I'm going to fill in the blanks and form one for you, you lazy jackass. I'm really not fond of putting words in anyone's mouth, but you're really not giving me anything to work with here. I'll assume what you had meant was

It's 2025, and Joe's audience has the ability to fact check all claims made by his guests on his podcast show. We can be certain that his audience is fact checking all claims they find to be questionable, and challenging them if they are deemed to be false.

Do you really fucking think his audience is spending their sweetass time fact checking his guests, and challenging them when you've got comment sections full of top comments that look like the following?

And yet, not a single one of these motherfuckers don't find it questionable when a guest is talking about "Jewish world dominance" and saying shit like "Hitler was not a bad man before the war" and "Hitler did not really hate Jews."


"It's 2025. lol like WTF. All of us can fact check on Google these days. We've got all this knowledge of the world at our fingertips. Stop crying. You can't tell us whom we can listen to and whom we cannot! Oh, disability check's in the mail. Derp."


Hmm...I'm going to make a slight revision on your original diagnosis, and drop your IQ level down to about 0.5, now that I've gone over your other retarded post. Congratulations, now you're officially classified as a vegetable.

 

[fedoriswar37]

Hmm, yes. Fascinating. Before you responded to me with this post, I had you pegged as a highly-functioning moron, according to the Goddard Scale, with an estimated IQ of 65, but now I'll have to take it down a notch to an estimated IQ of 28, which would officially classify you as an imbecile. Congratulations. I'll send this data over to Social Security so you can start collecting benefits for your mental impairment.

I have no idea what compelled you to respond to a quote that was originally directed at another poster in the first place, but since you insist on responding to it on his behalf, I'll bite...this shit sandwich you've given me and spit it back in your face, which will serve as a proper rebuttal.

So it appears that you have difficulty reading an entire sentence and processing its message, and responding to it with a valid argument. The sentence in question you were responding to was:



Let's take out the all of the frivolous bullshit, and focus on the crux of this compound-complex sentence, which leaves us with



To which your first response was this:



To which I responded that I wasn't talking about Israel. I don't care about Douglas Murray's comments on criticisms against Israel. it's completely independent to what he said about not giving a platform to anti-Semitic conspiracy theory peddlers and Nazi apologists.

Let me dumb it down for you, asstwat: what the fuck does "JEWS CONTROL THE WORLD!" have anything to do with "ISRAEL IS COMMITTING GENOCIDE!"? They're completely independent to each other. So are you implying that it's now okay to say "Hitler was a good man!" and "Jews control the world!" only because Douglas Murray does not want guests saying "Israel is committing genocide!"?

Are you really this fucking stupid?



That's your fucking point? He's full of shit? Because he doesn't have the right to decide who's wrong or who's right any more than Dave Smith or Joe Rogan?

Well, let's suppose your point is valid, then. So do you think Darryl Cooper and Ian Carroll are right and that Douglas Murray is wrong for stating that Darryl Cooper and Ian Carroll are wrong?

Here's another dumbass response you gave me to the same question earlier in the thread, which had absolutely no point at all:



What the hell is your argument? You merely gave me a series of factual statements that cannot be refuted. How am I supposed to work with this?

Yeah, idiot. It is the year 2025. I have a calendar too. Yeah, Google exists. I use it myself and deal with its APIs all the time. Yeah, Wikipedia and history books exist too. And the First Amendment.

Since you have difficulty articulating your thoughts clearly (nor spell for shit nor punctuate correctly) and form a valid argument, I'm going to fill in the blanks and form one for you, you lazy jackass. I'm really not fond of putting words in anyone's mouth, but you're really not giving me anything to work with here. I'll assume what you had meant was



Do you really fucking think his audience is spending their sweetass time fact checking his guests, and challenging them when you've got comment sections full of top comments that look like the following?

And yet, not a single one of these motherfuckers don't find it questionable when a guest is talking about "Jewish world dominance" and saying shit like "Hitler was not a bad man before the war" and "Hitler did not really hate Jews."


"It's 2025. lol like WTF. All of us can fact check on Google these days. We've got all this knowledge of the world at our fingertips. Stop crying. You can't tell us whom we can listen to and whom we cannot! Oh, disability check's in the mail. Derp."


Hmm...I'm going to make a slight revision on your original diagnosis, and drop your IQ level down to about 0.5, now that I've gone over your other retarded post. Congratulations, now you're officially classified as a vegetable.

To be clear. I didn't read fucking any of that. Congrats on either wasting 3 minutes of your time with chatgpt or God knows how long with your own delusions.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

To be clear. I didn't read fucking any of that. Congrats on either wasting 3 minutes of your time with chatgpt or God knows how long with your own delusions.

Exactly.

I have never met a poster who's too eager to repeatedly announce to the world that he can't read with such great enthusiasm like this dumbfuck.

And this is the reason why nobody these days bother to fact check nor question anything they hear on the media.

 

[Gotosleepho]

I don't support him at all. I just think he knows a hell of a lot about what's going on there and without being hypocritical towards Israel, I can't see an argument to much of what he says about it. It very much seems like people who support Palestine over Israel, want to make excuses for how they respond to Israel or how they attack them, while saying Israel shouldn't be doing the same. You talk of dead children as if Palestinians have never killed innocent people/children.

I'd be curious to know what fundamental points Murray makes they you disagree with and why you disagree with them.

Israel has killed many more children than Palestine and actually targets them because they view the children as future threats. This is a very popular position in Israel. There is also a project for the expansion for a greater Israel which would involve Israel taking territory to essentially match what was in the Bible of greater Israel which would include countries like Lebanon and Syria. Do you support targeting women and children in war? Do you support Israel propping up various proxies throughout the Middle East, taking United States tax dollars for weapons, and expanding their boundaries? That sounds like absolute hell to me and people like Douglas Murray who for the most part support the Likud party vision try to brainwash Western countries into thinking this is for the better. Since the creation of Israel in 1947 the Middle East has become a more violent place overall.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

Israel has killed many more children than Palestine and actually targets them because they view the children as future threats. This is a very popular position in Israel. There is also a project for the expansion for a greater Israel which would involve Israel taking territory to essentially match what was in the Bible of greater Israel which would include countries like Lebanon and Syria. Do you support targeting women and children in war? Do you support Israel propping up various proxies throughout the Middle East, taking United States tax dollars for weapons, and expanding their boundaries? That sounds like absolute hell to me and people like Douglas Murray who for the most part support the Likud party vision try to brainwash Western countries into thinking this is for the better. Since the creation of Israel in 1947 the Middle East has become a more violent place overall.

So that's your argument? That Palestine haven't killed as many kids? Oh, well. Yay Palestine.

I'm wondering, if you think Israel see Palestine kids as future threats (I'd love to know what evidence you base this on btw), what is Palestine's excuse for killing Israeli kids?

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

Israel has killed many more children than Palestine and actually targets them because they view the children as future threats. This is a very popular position in Israel. There is also a project for the expansion for a greater Israel which would involve Israel taking territory to essentially match what was in the Bible of greater Israel which would include countries like Lebanon and Syria. Do you support targeting women and children in war? Do you support Israel propping up various proxies throughout the Middle East, taking United States tax dollars for weapons, and expanding their boundaries? That sounds like absolute hell to me and people like Douglas Murray who for the most part support the Likud party vision try to brainwash Western countries into thinking this is for the better. Since the creation of Israel in 1947 the Middle East has become a more violent place overall.

So that's your argument? That Palestine haven't killed as many kids? Oh, well. Yay Palestine.
I'm wondering, if you think Israel see Palestine kids as future threats (I'd love to know what evidence you base this on btw), what is Palestine's excuse for killing Israeli kids?

 

[Mack Yancy]

I think you've gotten me mistaken for another poster, pal.

Hey, listen. I don't want to further entertain this bunker nonsense, so how about you give me your thoughts on this Douglas Murray situation instead and explain to me why my statements in support for Murray's argument that anti-Semitic conspiracy theory peddlers and Nazi apologists shouldn't be given a platform are wrong, yeah?

And no, I have never mentioned anything about Israel in relation to this.

@ColemanwastheGOAT is a wacked-out paranoid weirdo like his politically-aligned buddies @Scerpi and @A Very Serious Cat

 

[Cantalope]

I used to think Rogan was pretty funny around 20 years ago. Dude turned into a fucking dunce.

 

[Scott Stapp]

I don't support him at all. I just think he knows a hell of a lot about what's going on there and without being hypocritical towards Israel, I can't see an argument to much of what he says about it. It very much seems like people who support Palestine over Israel, want to make excuses for how they respond to Israel or how they attack them, while saying Israel shouldn't be doing the same. You talk of dead children as if Palestinians have never killed innocent people/children.

I'd be curious to know what fundamental points Murray makes they you disagree with and why you disagree with them.

Murray is literally paid by Israel to say that stuff.