Economy Donald trump to impose Tariffs feb.1st.

EL CORINTHIAN said:
What is the end game between Canada and USA? It seems clear that the US looks at Canada the same way it does Greenland, a huge, vast space filled with natural resources and a population that can't exploit it.

If I'm understanding correctly, Trump's whole deal strategy is to apply tons of pressure to start, request something so absurd and hopefully fall just short of that (still being good for him) and to make the opposition as weak as humanly possible.

Considering he's talking about annexation, do you guys think there's a possibility he'll want some sort of union between Canada and the States that'll allow America to really exploit the resources and also to set up shop, defensively,in the arctic?
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The new USMCA deal. It's all about that.
 
HereticBD said:
The new USMCA deal. It's all about that.
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You mean the "new USMCA deal" that immediately after Trump negotiates and signs it, he will have a dementia moment and forget it? He will then start to hate on it and seem to not remember who negotiated it or signed it, just like he forgot who did the prior USMCA deal???




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Trump calling HIS DEAL, the USMCA he negotiated in 2016 ..

"most significant, balanced trade agreement in history"​




'We have big trade deficits with Canada... I look at some of the deals that were negotiated and wonder who the hell made these deals...'


 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
You think joining the largest economy on the planet 'could' benefit Canada?
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The reason I say "I think" is because it would come at the cost of literally being absorbed into the United States.

When you consider that we're sandwiched between Russia and America, I don't think we have much choice or time left in the matter.

It would also benefit the shit out of the states too.
 
koquerelle said:
Which could have been negotiated like adults, but Trump can't do that because he's an insecure twat.
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Like it or not, it's how he conducts business. It's quite effective. He's already got both countries dancing like puppets on a string, and will have us over a barrel come time for those negotiations. It is what it is. I just wish we had stronger leadership up here that didn't leave us so vulnerable. Maybe this will be a wake up call.
 
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HereticBD said:
The new USMCA deal. It's all about that.
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For sure it is, but I can't help but wonder about the defense aspect that won't be apart of that deal that I know the Americans need in the future.
 
44nutman said:
I wonder how many Oligarchs made money on Trumps Dump and Pump. Market dumps because of Trumps Tariffs, Oligarchs buy cheaper shares and then Trump says no Tariffs and market pumps. Money gets transferred to the Rich Elite once again. Trump hooked up the Oligarchs during Covid, now Trump getting creative to help his fellow billionaires.
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you think there's an oligarch snapchat group?
 
EL CORINTHIAN said:
What is the end game between Canada and USA? It seems clear that the US looks at Canada the same way it does Greenland, a huge, vast space filled with natural resources and a population that can't exploit it.

If I'm understanding correctly, Trump's whole deal strategy is to apply tons of pressure to start, request something so absurd and hopefully fall just short of that (still being good for him) and to make the opposition as weak as humanly possible.

Considering he's talking about annexation, do you guys think there's a possibility he'll want some sort of union between Canada and the States that'll allow America to really exploit the resources and also to set up shop, defensively,in the arctic?
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With Panama Pump might deal with without mobilization in U.S
With Canada and or Greenland NO.Without mobilization and this even if they will not resist.
A lot of " meat " will be mando necessity with a glance. Remember Nam early stages....history maybe does have trend to repeat again and again. Without empty talks from money hungry parasites in real life creating 0 real value.
 
ChosenOne said:
Who is claiming Canada would not lose a trade war with the US?

The only claim i have seen, which is a correct one, is that the US would feel some pain (no where near as much) too.


But the question remains, what is the goal of the trade war? What was Trump hoping to gain in a win?

Canada represents a fraction of 1% of the fentanyl going in to the US so is this trade war justified to try and get it to a fraction of a fraction of one percent?? Would it not make sense just to say Canada 'we need you to get it to a fraction or a fraction of one percent in X days or we will take action', instead of starting with a Trade War, first and never telling Canada why?

Or was this Trump just looking for someone he could bully, to try and look tough, knowing his magats would clap like seals, and since he has too much respect for Xi and Putin and is scared of those who can fight back, he went looking for his bestie neighbor?
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Pump is normally stupid and cocky old fossil.

U.S for example does have in real life almost 0 handguns control and they does have more handguns than they does have population in total on paper. Legal population.

Nice for " safespace " ofc.
 
kflo said:
you think there's an oligarch snapchat group?
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They do video chats and the whole time they are talking to each other, they have their assistants behind them, smashing eggs on their assistants foreheads. Now that eggs are a luxury item, they have become in favor with the Oligarchs.
 
HereticBD said:
Like it not, it's how he conducts business. It's quite effective. He's already got both countries dancing like puppets on a string, and will have us over a barrel come time for those negotiations. It is what it is. I just wish we had stronger leadership up here that didn't leave us so vulnerable. Maybe this will be a wake up call.
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Lol quite effective. He tanked the maket so his billionaire buddies could buy on the cheap, and then went back to the same plan that was there other than adding troops to the border. Not sure why Canada has to, because most of them go back home.
Here is the truth. Since Trudeau is Melania's bull, he got Trump to make his failing party look stronger. He stands up to Trump, promises to put more troops on the border and they are back to where they started on the tariffs. Melania's bulll's party get a popularity bump, so its actually a win for Trudeau, plus he still gets to make Trump sit in the cuck chair, so it is a win for Melania as well.
You Canadians are lucky to have such a Chad as a leader.
 
HereticBD said:
Like it not, it's how he conducts business. It's quite effective. He's already got both countries dancing like puppets on a string, and will have us over a barrel come time for those negotiations. It is what it is. I just wish we had stronger leadership up here that didn't leave us so vulnerable. Maybe this will be a wake up call.
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So why doesn't Trump think it is effective or do you think this is a dementia moment when he calls out the terrible deal makers, cutting these deals???


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Trump calling HIS DEAL, the USMCA he negotiated in 2016 ..

"most significant, balanced trade agreement in history"​




'We have big trade deficits with Canada... I look at some of the deals that were negotiated and wonder who the hell made these deals...'


 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
What's the cost of that?
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Loss of sovereignty, health care system could be the American type, massive population shifts that might not be favourable for the provinces since they're already sparsely populated to begin with.

There could be more to that sort of integration. On the other hand you essentially have a mega powerful nation.


Thoughts?
 
HereticBD said:
Like it not, it's how he conducts business. It's quite effective. He's already got both countries dancing like puppets on a string, and will have us over a barrel come time for those negotiations. It is what it is. I just wish we had stronger leadership up here that didn't leave us so vulnerable. Maybe this will be a wake up call.
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Canada didn't dance like a puppet. The border plan was announced in December.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-saf...rder-security-and-our-immigration-system.html
 
EL CORINTHIAN said:
Loss of sovereignty, health care system could be the American type, massive population shifts that might not be favourable for the provinces since they're already sparsely populated to begin with.

There could be more to that sort of integration. On the other hand you essentially have a mega powerful nation.


Thoughts?
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I think the upside far outweighs the downside.

I think the healthcare boogeyman is overblown given in America that's mostly done at the state level so the Canadian states could just keep their current systems.
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
I think the upside far outweighs the downside.

I think the healthcare boogeyman is overblown given in America that's mostly done at the state level so the Canadian states could just keep their current systems.
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I'm curious to see what he's going to propose. I don't think Trump has any unique goals, just unique methods of attaining those goals.

It seems like he's directed by USA's broader geopolitical future and what it needs to do to maintain its hegemony.To that end, acquiring Greenland and Canada is a no brainer. Vast resources, relatively defenseless and ripe for the taking. Leaving partisan politics aside, no matter who's at the helm, left or right, this is the direction America is going.

We have had relative peace for a very long time and I think we are starting to see the death throes of liberalism. If some sort of integration isn't met in the near future, peacefully, we will see some sort of annexation of greenland or Canada and it will be due to an existential threat regarding arctic armament, or lack thereof.

I'm not sure there's much Canada or Denmark/Greenland can do to prevent something like this from happening.
 
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