Donald Trump Jr.'s Russia email scandal shakes the presidency, v4: Cover of TIME

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Who knows what they discussed, do you? He lied about having a meeting period, so did Kushner, so did Manafort. Then mini Trump went on Fox and said that was the whole story "thats everything", suddenly more information came out the next day and we found out he was lying his Trump ass off again. Let me guess, you want to believe whatever he says...right?

From Bauer:

But this is highly suggestive of a potential violation of the law on two counts. Number one, it demonstrates that the campaign as a whole had the intent to court support, receive support, solicit support from a foreign national source, in this case, the Russia government.

Second, the meeting itself could constitute illegal solicitation of support from a foreign national under campaign finance law. So, it both has broad legal significance, and on that one specific issue of liability, has a more concrete significance.

Yes. I’m talking here about a statute that has been on the books for many years that Congress tightened in 2002 that prohibits receiving and soliciting contributions from a foreign national or providing the foreign national with substantial assistance in trying to influence a U.S. election.

People are trying to pretend different, but the law is literal. What do you think contributions means in regards to campaign finance? As for lying. I've already said I don't like lying. But that's about all ya got so far at least no?
 
Well who knows lol. Not me.
The whole thing seems very suspect and has gotten weirder by the day.
Sure you didn't mistake me for someone else? I've made like 5 posts in this thread.
If you don't know, then why's it so suspect?
 
Do you have ANY common sense? Spy spy blah blah, there is tons of information if you actually want to read it and learn. Don't go to your safe spot Fox and believe everything they tell you, do you not care to know the truth or are you going to believe everything the Trumps say?
You're flailing bud. You brought up spies not me. The whole point of a spy is to SECRETLY get information. If Trump was talking to a spy, how would that incriminate him unless he actually did something illegal?
 
Will any of you limp wristers take the bet? My account against your avatar or sig. At least blue belt and up. No Russian collusion charges against Trump or Trump Jr. You set the terms. Come get some. Send me home packin
 
Uh, 1) Gonzales didn't say it was illegal, which was my whole point. 2) Comey and Gonzales have quite a high profile history of disagreeing. 3) Gonzales had to resign as AG in shame.


And "colluding" by calling it a matter? Please.<27>



18 U.S. Code § 4 - Misprision of felony

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 684; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(G),Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)


28 U.S. Code § 1361 - Action to compel an officer of the United States to perform his duty
The district courts shall have original jurisdiction of any action in the nature of mandamus to compel an officer or employee of the United States or any agency thereof to perform a duty owed to the plaintiff.

(Added Pub. L. 87–748, § 1(a), Oct. 5, 1962, 76 Stat. 744.)

If Comey had reason to believe that the POTUS was attempting to influence an investigation, this is not information he can save for a rainy day. As a FBI director, he is required to report that to the DOJ.

The guy is a leaker and a snake. Good riddance.
 
All they need is phone call records and times (and no Obama didn't wire tap the meeting :) )
, I'd bet anything it comes out.
This is what I was thinking. I'm sure someone recorded something some where, or when they all start scrambling to save their own necks some one will flip on Trump.
 
You're flailing bud. You brought up spies not me. The whole point of a spy is to SECRETLY get information. If Trump was talking to a spy, how would that incriminate him unless he actually did something illegal?
You stepped into this thread asking questions about what happened , now you are spouting off like you know something. Campaign finance laws says ANYTHING of value, it doesn't have to be 100 dollar bills. Look it up.
 



If Comey had reason to believe that the POTUS was attempting to influence an investigation, this is not information he can save for a rainy day. As a FBI director, he is required to report that to the DOJ.

The guy is a leaker and a snake. Good riddance.
Well don't lose any sleep waiting for him to be charged, HE WONT.
 



If Comey had reason to believe that the POTUS was attempting to influence an investigation, this is not information he can save for a rainy day. As a FBI director, he is required to report that to the DOJ.

The guy is a leaker and a snake. Good riddance.

You should teach law at Columbia! Your quick google search would probably have persuaded Comey and his lawyerin buddy that Comey was putting himself in real legal jeopardy.

The point that you are missing (I guess you didn't watch Comey's testimony?) was that the firing changed the meaning of Trump's comments from Trump being a bumbling noob to someone who was trying to influence how Comey proceeded in the Russia investigation, and when he couldn't and saw the investigation heading in a direction Trump didn't like, he fired him. Then the administration cooked up some phony reasons for his firing, that Trump contradicted in his Lester Holt interview, and also in his meeting with the Russians saying Comey's firing relieved great pressure.

As for him being a "leaker and snake," I will take the previous, and 2 subsequent, FBI directors opinions about Comey, along with everyone else who isn't Trump, or isn't being paid by Trump. I mean, have you ever once considered that Trump is just a lying sack of shit?
 
You're flailing bud. You brought up spies not me. The whole point of a spy is to SECRETLY get information. If Trump was talking to a spy, how would that incriminate him unless he actually did something illegal?
Did you read this?

But this is highly suggestive of a potential violation of the law on two counts. Number one, it demonstrates that the campaign as a whole had the intent to court support, receive support, solicit support from a foreign national source, in this case, the Russia government.

Second, the meeting itself could constitute illegal solicitation of support from a foreign national under campaign finance law. So, it both has broad legal significance, and on that one specific issue of liability, has a more concrete significance.

Yes. I’m talking here about a statute that has been on the books for many years that Congress tightened in 2002 that prohibits receiving and soliciting contributions from a foreign national or providing the foreign national with substantial assistance in trying to influence a U.S. election.
 
Why do you Trump people think that someone will get charged the next day after doing something, and if they don't it must be legal? There is a investigation and it will be a long one since there is so much to go through.

Just wait for the emoluments clause problems, issue all by itself.
 
You should teach law at Columbia! Your quick google search would probably have persuaded Comey and his lawyerin buddy that Comey was putting himself in real legal jeopardy.

The point that you are missing (I guess you didn't watch Comey's testimony?) was that the firing changed the meaning of Trump's comments from Trump being a bumbling noob to someone who was trying to influence how Comey proceeded in the Russia investigation, and when he couldn't and saw the investigation heading in a direction Trump didn't like, he fired him. Then the administration cooked up some phony reasons for his firing, that Trump contradicted in his Lester Holt interview, and also in his meeting with the Russians saying Comey's firing relieved great pressure.

As for him being a "leaker and snake," I will take the previous, and 2 subsequent, FBI directors opinions about Comey, along with everyone else who isn't Trump, or isn't being paid by Trump. I mean, have you ever once considered that Trump is just a lying sack of shit?

There was no obstruction by Trump. If there was, Comey would have been obligated to report it. Seeing as he didn't, that means either he committed perjury or no attempt was made to obstruct the investigation. Fairly straight forward but I don't mind explaining it to you.

Also, firing of the director did not stop or disrupt any ongoing FBI investigations. Quit falling for the fake news.

Finally, he is a leaker and a snake. He could have gone public himself, or went to the DOJ right away. Instead he chose to leak to the Times through a 3rd party. He's no better than that Reality Winner chick. The fact you are unable to comprehend that makes me pity you.
 
I thought the emails were much longer. Just read the whole thing, and the Magnitsky act wasn't mentioned at all. I'm assuming then that they brought it up in the meeting. What exactly did Trump Jr do wrong?
He received an email with the offer of a meeting with a Russian proxy, to be supplied with Russian government procured dirt on Hillary, and he accepted. He also hid the meeting which is very suspicious. This is not the type of meeting you'd just forget.

If you factor in that Kushner was at the meeting, that Sr. was courting Russia during his rallies at this time, that Kushner requested a Russian supplied private channel after they won and it makes you really want to look into this matter.

How pro Trump can you be that you're willing to overlook these things? Good thing there's a special investigation along with the Senate and Congressional investigations. If he colluded he should pay the price like any ordinary citizen would.
 
You stepped into this thread asking questions about what happened , now you are spouting off like you know something. Campaign finance laws says ANYTHING of value, it doesn't have to be 100 dollar bills. Look it up.

Information doesn't hold monetary value. Thank God it doesn't too. The implications of that would be immense and absurd
 
Did you read this?

But this is highly suggestive of a potential violation of the law on two counts. Number one, it demonstrates that the campaign as a whole had the intent to court support, receive support, solicit support from a foreign national source, in this case, the Russia government.

Second, the meeting itself could constitute illegal solicitation of support from a foreign national under campaign finance law. So, it both has broad legal significance, and on that one specific issue of liability, has a more concrete significance.

Yes. I’m talking here about a statute that has been on the books for many years that Congress tightened in 2002 that prohibits receiving and soliciting contributions from a foreign national or providing the foreign national with substantial assistance in trying to influence a U.S. election.
It never courted support nor solicited. Receiving info is not illegal. So the first point fails before it could get started. Already addressed the 2nd part. Information doesn't hold monetary value (in the legal sense).
 
Information doesn't hold monetary value. Thank God it doesn't too. The implications of that would be immense and absurd
The law states that no person shall knowingly solicit or accept from a foreign national any contribution to a campaign of an item of value.

It says NOTHING about monetary.
 
Will any of you limp wristers take the bet? My account against your avatar or sig. At least blue belt and up. No Russian collusion charges against Trump or Trump Jr. You set the terms. Come get some. Send me home packin
You really need to read up on this before you come in here and talk stupid.
There will be no collusion charges, there is no such law "collusion".
 
He received an email with the offer of a meeting with a Russian proxy, to be supplied with Russian government procured dirt on Hillary, and he accepted. He also hid the meeting which is very suspicious. This is not the type of meeting you'd just forget.

If you factor in that Kushner was at the meeting, that Sr. was courting Russia during his rallies at this time, that Kushner requested a Russian supplied private channel after they won and it makes you really want to look into this matter.

How pro Trump can you be that you're willing to overlook these things? Good thing there's a special investigation along with the Senate and Congressional investigations. If he colluded he should pay the price like any ordinary citizen would.
If a crime was committed he should pay. This is being forced and from my pov it seems obvious. I've already called you all out. Nobody seems confident enough to take the bet. The bravado is all ya got
 
You really need to read up on this before you come in here and talk stupid.
There will be no collusion charges, there is no such law "collusion".
I meant that as a general term. As I said the challenger would be setting the terms. Care to take the bet? Or are you just pussyfooting around?
 
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