Donald Trump Jr.'s Russia email scandal shakes the presidency, v4: Cover of TIME

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Oh, yes it is. It is a violation of campaign law.

If there was quid pro quo.

There wasn't.

Why does this matter so much to you guys if you don't care about Hillary and Saudi, Russia, Ukraine etc where there actually was quid pro quo?
 
As I already stated, no one has ever disputed the Podesta e-mails as fake, not even Podesta himself. So while you choose to believe Wikileaks is working for Russia, Podesta is calling the shots at the Washington Post pushing the articles you are freaking out about.

Okay, no one disputes them. What was in then is nowhere as bad as the Donald Jr. emails. Again, none of this the disputes facts about Wiki-leaks.

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If there was quid pro quo.

There wasn't.

Why does this matter so much to you guys if you don't care about Hillary and Saudi, Russia, Ukraine etc where there actually was quid pro quo?

There does not have to be quid pro quo. Accepting anything of value, including information, from a foreign national is a violation of campaign laws.
 
Okay, no one disputes them. What was in then is nowhere as bad as the Donald Jr. emails. Again, none of this the disputes facts about Wiki-leaks.

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Trump Jr. going to get information on Clinton is worse than the Clinton's colluding with the media in secret to influence the American People?
 
Notice this whole Russia narrative started when they released John Podesta's e-mails (which to this day were never discredited as fake) that showed the Democrats deep seeded control and collusion with various American News Outlets like NBC, NYT, WP, etc. The same ones who are driving the Trump/Russia narrative today. So now we write off Wikileaks as Russian propaganda and suddenly the media collusion never happened, even if John Podesta himself now works for the Washington Post.

I think people keep forgetting that nothing the Russians did would have made a difference if it weren't for all that crap the DNC did in the first place.

It's like the kids that video tape crimes and then post it on youtube. Those idiots were so nonchalant that they emailed that crap leaving a paper trail.
 
I think people keep forgetting that nothing the Russians did would have made a difference if it weren't for all that crap the DNC did in the first place.

It's like the kids that video tape crimes and then post it on youtube. Those idiots were so nonchalant that they emailed that crap leaving a paper trail.


Our media got caught red handed running interference for the Clintons both against Republicans and other Democrats. But the history of now states, none of that matters anymore because Russia allegedly exposed our collusion. The same group who got busted are rewriting history in real time.
 
Exactly my point. Pence is the power behind the throne at the moment. Put him on the Iron Throne and it that much harder for the Dems to oppose him. Trump is an easy target. Pence is a pro at this game.

Why would you say he is the power behind the throne when he has been humiliated a couple of times by the Trump team? Overall I just see him as a trophy wife to gain the trust of the religious right.

I don't think there is a "power behind the throne" either, I think it is a power struggle between factions with an undisciplined and impulsive "decider" pulling the trigger.
 
Our media got caught red handed running interference for the Clintons both against Republicans and other Democrats. But the history of now states, none of that matters anymore because Russia allegedly exposed our collusion. The same group who got busted are rewriting history in real time.

...but, but the emails!

....but, but the media!

...but, but anything else that can be throw up as a deflection!
 
Going forward, whatever story the principals are trying to sell us can safely be considered incomplete by default.

Good sweet jumping Jesus on a coked up walrus
 
...but, but the emails!

....but, but the media!

...but, but anything else that can be throw up as a deflection!




Complains about Russian collusion...doesn't want to talk about Wikileaks e-mails which started the conservation of Russian collusion...
 
LOL I could write down a list of every scandal the Clinton's have been involved with and it'd dwarf this story, even if there was evidence of collusion, which there isn't. But I wouldn't do that because it'd get deleted for "highjacking/derailing the thread".
Clinton is not our standing President

She is irrelevant

Stop living in the past
 
Why would you say he is the power behind the throne when he has been humiliated a couple of times by the Trump team? Overall I just see him as a trophy wife to gain the trust of the religious right.

I don't think there is a "power behind the throne" either, I think it is a power struggle between factions with an undisciplined and impulsive "decider" pulling the trigger.

To be honest, I just wanted to drop a Game of Thrones reference;)

Joking aside, policy probably won't change much if Pence becomes president. What will change is that the Dems will only be able to focus on policy, not personality. Trump is the easiest of targets. Pence will be far more difficult to land heavy shots on.
 
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