Donald Trump Jr.'s Russia email scandal shakes the presidency, v4: Cover of TIME

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

What are you on about?

Not so clever dodge. Ever done jury duty?

 

[mixmastermo]

I don't read into all this Russia stuff because it's been a huge waste of my time in the past. I ask questions to better Inform myself.

"During the meeting the team of Russians provided a folder with intel and asked about having sanctions the Mginstsky sanctions being removed"

can you source this for my own
edification? This came up in the emails or meeting? Did Trump Jr follow thru with the exchange?

https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-gav...mation-damaging-hillary-clinton/28617669.html

http://time.com/4858397/donald-trump-jr-meeting-russian-lobbyist/

There you go.

The real interesting part to me is Jr. Wasn't satisfied with what had been presented and asked for more, and he lost interest when the lawyer told him "you will have to find out for yourself"

If that isn't soliciting espionage I don't know what is.

 

[Throttlehead]

NYT didn't force anything out. This information was handed to them by leakers with access to classified NSA data on private citizens. NYT did what it always does, it recycled deep state leaks. The email itself is innocent compared to the violation of privacy that has taken place.

Donald Trump is a patriot and is fighting for America on both domestic and international stages. The only patriots I see here are the ones defending their President against a deep state coup.

Is this straight from Infowars? Deep state crap.

 

[panamaican]

Is this straight from Infowars? Deep state crap.

The crazy part is that to defend this behavior is to defend foreign meddling in our nation as acceptable. I don't get how that can ever align with "patriot."

Or how people who wholly supported the DNC email leaks suddenly care about privacy.

 

[mixmastermo]

NYT didn't force anything out. This information was handed to them by leakers with access to classified NSA data on private citizens. NYT did what it always does, it recycled deep state leaks. The email itself is innocent compared to the violation of privacy that has taken place.

Donald Trump is a patriot and is fighting for America on both domestic and international stages. The only patriots I see here are the ones defending their President against a deep state coup.

Wow you are incredibly ignorant.

Kushner and Manafort had to disclose meetings with foreigners on their security clearance forms. This meeting came up on their forms, which is how people found out about it.

 

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

Nope. Comey released his memos ("leakers" do it anonymously) to get a special counsel, which he got. He can rest easy now knowing Mueller is on the case (like Steve Young handing the ball off to Joe Montana in the 4th quarter for the game winning drive), write his book which is going to be yuge, and put his freakishly long legs and feet up on the coffee table for the rest of his life as a very rich man.

Huh? What kind of revisionist history is that.

He had his professor friend, a 3rd party with no clearance, leak FBI director memos to NYT while he stayed quiet in the background. It's the epitome of anonymous leaking. If he was by the book and actually had evidence to present against Trump, he would have been legally required to submit that to the DOJ. Otherwise he himself would be guilty of obstructing justice.

New York Times does not have the ability to read Donald Jr's emails. They were given this data by people from the previous administration with NSA access.

People like Comey and other unelected deep state officials are the true traitors, and are trying to steal a democratic election from the American people.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

Not so clever dodge. Ever done jury duty?

Jury duty, what are you on about?

Are we on a fucking jury?

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-gav...mation-damaging-hillary-clinton/28617669.html

http://time.com/4858397/donald-trump-jr-meeting-russian-lobbyist/

There you go.

The real interesting part to me is Jr. Wasn't satisfied with what had been presented and asked for more, and he lost interest when the lawyer told him "you will have to find out for yourself"

If that isn't soliciting espionage I don't know what is.

That is your evidence for espionage? Good luck with that

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

Jury duty, what are you on about?

Are we on a fucking jury?

We are discussing evidence and how it applies to a crime. Instead of looking at the evidence that exists, you seem to be trying to create it out of thin air. What crime was committed? Can you answer That? I see a whole lot of wishful thinking going on here

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

Huh? What kind of revisionist history is that.

He had his professor friend, a 3rd party with no clearance, leak FBI director memos to NYT while he stayed quiet in the background. It's the epitome of anonymous leaking. If he was by the book and actually had evidence to present against Trump, he would have been legally required to submit that to the DOJ. Otherwise he himself would be guilty of obstructing justice.

New York Times does not have the ability to read Donald Jr's emails. They were given this data by people from the previous administration with NSA access.

People like Comey and other unelected deep state officials are the true traitors, and are trying to steal a democratic election from the American people.

Yeah, he gave the memos to his legal professor friend to show to the press so they wouldn't park outside of his house like they did to Terrell Owens during his Eagles contract negotiations. Are you seriously suggesting that people didn't know that it was Comey "leaking" the memos through "someone close to James Comey?"

 

[Rational Poster]

I know Don Jr and Kushner are guilty because...

/pop culture reference

Experience.

 

[klnOmega]

Moscow Airport. Openly laughing at the US' hysteria right now.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

We are discussing evidence and how it applies to a crime. Instead of looking at the evidence that exists, you seem to be trying to create it out of thin air. What crime was committed? Can you answer That? I see a whole lot of wishful thinking going on here

1. I am not creating evidence out of thin air, it's a fact that the senate is trying to block Trump from reducing sanctions on Russia, and Trump Jr. agreed to meet with "Russian government" representatives who were offering dirt on Hillary Clinton in return for reduce sanctions from the Magnitsky Act.
2. We are not the jury for a trial, the investigation is far from over, and the relevant parties have yet to testify, so take your old jury badge off that makes you feel so special.
3. We have covered the debate of what type of legal jeopardy Trump Jr. could be in as of now, but again, the investigation isn't over, so even that is premature.

 

[mixmastermo]

That is your evidence for espionage? Good luck with that

How about the fact there was an actual spy in the meeting?

You know what? I'm not wasting any more time with you.

 

[klnOmega]

Addresses the scandal how?
Credit to the NYT for forcing this information out; you can damned well know this meeting would've stayed a secret otherwise.

Not even six months into this administration, and they've essentially admitted to colluding with foreign agents to swing an American election.

I know you don't care because you have no integrity, but step out and let patriots discuss this shit if you're gonna be a retarded dope about it.

The NYT "forced this out" by reading Kushner's SF86. It wasn't a secret meeting. He disclosed it, and thats how the NYT found out about it.

 

[Fawlty]

"Educate me about the basics because I'm fucking lazy."

That's the essence of every convo I've had with dudeguy over there. Comes in not knowing shit and saying you're wrong. Demands information and then gets pissy when you don't play his game.

 

[Quipling]

I don't read into all this Russia stuff because it's been a huge waste of my time in the past. I ask questions to better Inform myself.

"During the meeting the team of Russians provided a folder with intel and asked about having sanctions the Mginstsky sanctions being removed"

can you source this for my own
edification? This came up in the emails or meeting? Did Trump Jr follow thru with the exchange?

No, you ask questions to troll. Everyone here knows that the answer to those questions wouldn't make the slightest difference to you.

 

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

Wow you are incredibly ignorant.

Kushner and Manafort had to disclose meetings with foreigners on their security clearance forms. This meeting came up on their forms, which is how people found out about it.

The meeting was not the narrative, the email itself was and what Donald Jr had said in it. An email which was obtained through leakers with access to NSA data.

The crazy part is that to defend this behavior is to defend foreign meddling in our nation as acceptable. I don't get how that can ever align with "patriot."

Or how people who wholly supported the DNC email leaks suddenly care about privacy.

If another nation has evidence of our politicians committing illegal activities on their soil (such as embezzeling), there is nothing wrong with a private citizen attending a meeting to hear it out. Hillary's people would have and have done the same. If there is evidence of him taking a bribe or any quid pro quo, that's a different story.

The reason why no one cared about the DNC leaks is because it was obvious that this was done by Bernie loyalists inside the party itself. If Democrats cant keep their house in order, thats their problem.

Current leaks are different as they are the actions of a previous administration who is set on sabotaging the new one. Hence WaPo or NYT having access to presidents confidential calls with world leaders, or his sons private emails.

The party that lost the election and 1000 seats is trying to steal the election from the people through deep state leaks and Pravda-like media.

No one who voted for Trump is buying this shitty narrative.

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

1. I am not creating evidence out of thin air, it's a fact that the senate is trying to block Trump from reducing sanctions on Russia, and Trump Jr. agreed to meet with "Russian government" representatives who were offering dirt on Hillary Clinton in return for reduce sanctions from the Magnitsky Act.
2. We are not the jury for a trial, the investigation is far from over, and the relevant parties have yet to testify, so take your old jury badge off that makes you feel so special.
3. We have covered the debate of what type of legal jeopardy Trump Jr. could be in as of now, but again, the investigation isn't over, so even that is premature.

1. So you have no evidence of a crime yet are salivating anyways.

2. That's kinda my point. The pure speculation into crimes committed is hurting the cause. Like the boy that cried wolf. All this supposedly damning info coming out, yet a crime has still not emerged. Better to leave it alone til you actually have something imo.

3. Trump Jr is currently in zero legal jeapordy. Things may change as actual evidence is possibly released. Av/sig/ account bet on the fact Trump Jr isn't charged within a year?

 

[Rational Poster]

The NYT "forced this out" by reading Kushner's SF86. It wasn't a secret meeting. He disclosed it, and thats how the NYT found out about it.

He didn't tho.

Even after everyone was like woah dude you didn't disclose anything he went back and added 100 ppl and still didn't disclose this meeting.