Crime Donald Trump Hush Money Fraud Trial (5/30 Update: Trump Found Guilty on All 34 Felony Charges)

[IDGETKTFO]

i didn't pay attention to the case. were the jury really instructed to literally pick and choose what the underlying crime was from a bunch of options? if so, wtf? you can't convict someone based on a multiple choice quiz then tally up all the answers because that would mean rolling a bunch of separate stuff and pretending it's one thing.

All you need to know is a jury of 12 spent 2 days deliberating, asking for testimonies, and this instructions from the judge, and still found him guilty on ALL 34 counts. You got to be some kind of moron to think Trump is still innocent.

 

[Hog-train]

“China and other countries are using unfair trade practices to tilt the playing field against American workers and businesses. When they dump cheap products into our markets, subsidize state-owned enterprises, devalue currencies, and discriminate against American companies, our middle class pays the price. That has to stop.“

That quote is from the Democratic Party Platform of 2016.

We have never disagreed with those sentiments about China, what we disagreed with is the clumsy and poorly thought out manner that Trump dealt with it. His trade policies hurt Americans and cost us jobs.

Biden’s tariffs were more targeted, although I’ll admit time will tell how successful they are. Point is: we don’t disagree on China, but we can’t be stupid about the way we handle it.

Yea that's why immediately after getting in office, Biden overturned the Tiktok ban.

 

[Berserker13]

Record number of donors for Trump after guilty verdict, campaign says​

Donald Trump's digital fundraising system had a record number of supporters following the guilty verdict on Thursday afternoon, according to Trump campaign senior advisor Brian Hughes.
The increase in traffic caused intermittent delays, he added.

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Do these people think they're paying for his freedom, or what's going on here?

he could rape their wives on 5th avenue with them right there watching and they would still cheer him on in support. there's no doubt about it now. this is what they have reduced themselves to just to try to get one over on the libs. championing for rapists, fraudsters, and criminals is the hill. they can all enjoy dying on it.

They're all literal cucks

 

[nixkid]

And also brags about and shows them to foreign nationals. Quite honestly, I have absolutely no doubt Trump has already offered intel for money in the form of real estate investments from a handful of nations/powers. I mean... that's basically why he wanted to keep some of that stuff right? A little deal here, a little deal there and a quick iphone photo of a few documents there for someone... no big deal - only the best.

And this will just embolden him to commit more brazen crimes if he suffers no real consequences (no jail time, elected President again). He's already proven that he can't be removed from office (no matter what he does or how many times he's impeached) so the threat of prison might have been the only thing restraining him.

 

[oldshadow]

Not unexpected with the judge.

 

[ringking1982]

The US has to choose between a zombie or a crook. The fact that Trump has more than half the nation supporting him means Democrats have terrible policies. Biden's southern border debacle will lose him the presidency. Bills that let men dominate women's sports, billions to Ukraine for nothing. Democrats are terrible.

 

[Damien Karras]

I bet that guy is Canadian anyway.

Canada isn't sending their best to Sherdog. And some, I assume, are good people

 

[idrankyourbeer]

i didn't pay attention to the case. were the jury really instructed to literally pick and choose what the underlying crime was from a bunch of options?

the underlying crime was Conspiracy to promote or prevent election, statute 17-152. it was made clear from the start of this trial.

§ 17-152. Conspiracy to promote or prevent election. Any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.


the elements (unlawful means) that establishes the conspiracy include:

(1) violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act otherwise known as FECA;
(2) the falsification of other business records;
or
(3) violation of tax laws.


in order to bump the misdemeanor charges of 1st degree falsification of documents from a misdemeanor into a felony, all 12 jurors must unanimously decide that he was guilty of the underlying crime. it doesnt matter which element of the underlying crime he committed, any one of those elements establishes that he engaged in the conspiracy. as long as they all conclude that he was involved in any (or all) of the elements of the underlying crime, then they must find him guilty of the underlying crime.

he was found guilty on all 34 charges of falsification to the 1st degree, and then found to be guilty of committing the falsification in order to commit, or be involved in a conspiracy to commit another unlawful crime, which is the only burden needed to bump his misdemeanor charges to felonies, as well as throw out the statute of limitations on the misdemeanor charges.

hope that explains it!

 

[Strychnine]

 

[NickNick]

Not unexpected with the judge.

For the people that complain about this judge, do they also complain about the one overseeing the case in Florida?

 

[Berserker13]

Some of those people are probably being paid to do that

 

[andnowweknow]

For the people that complain about this judge, do they also complain about the one overseeing the case in Florida?

Judge Merchan had every right to incarcerate that fat orange felon for repeat violations of the gag order. His overseeing of the case was nothing but fair. More fairness and leniency to Trump than any normal defendant would have gotten.

And STILL not one mother fucker in this thread saying they think Trump was innocent lol.

 

[Substance Abuse]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1796353151798481128

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Some of those people are probably being paid to do that

apparently the trump campaign paid them $15/hr to stand around and put on their show.

trump supporters are simply just bad faith actors in every which way. they couldnt even manage to get real tears to roll down their faces when they all dressed up and made their signs and put on their little perpetual victimhood act. sad!

 

[Strychnine]

Some of those people are probably being paid to do that

And Trump will probably stiff them for it.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1796353151798481128

i'm gonna have to put on my maga diaper because i almost peed a little.

 

[king hippo]

the underlying crime was Conspiracy to promote or prevent election, statute 17-152

§ 17-152. Conspiracy to promote or prevent election. Any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.


the elements (unlawful means) that establishes the conspiracy include:

(1) violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act otherwise known as FECA;
(2) the falsification of other business records;
or
(3) violation of tax laws.


in order to bump the misdemeanor charges of 1st degree falsification of documents from a misdemeanor into a felony, all 12 jurors must unanimously decide that he was guilty of the underlying crime. it doesnt matter which element of the underlying crime he committed, as long as they can conclude that he was involved in any (or all) of the elements of the underlying crime, then they must find him guilty of the underlying crime.

hope that explains it!

thanks, would upvote if i wasn't dubberino'd.

also

do any of these apply to idank?

a. chud
b. beer fanatic
c. worst poster on sherdog
d. butt hole enthusiast


if yes, you must convict for Being Bad in the 1st degree. share this with your friends and if we can scrape enough random votes for random crimes, he'll be sharing a cell with bubba and deebo with an occasional conjugal booty call from fanny willis.

 

[Yoricks Wisdom]

Bruh, I don't know actors older than Mabel Normand. Never even seen The Triumph of Mirth.

You’ll always be the strawberry on my shortcake.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

thanks, would upvote if i wasn't dubberino'd.

also

do any of these apply to idank?

a. chud
b. beer fanatic
c. worst poster on sherdog
d. butt hole enthusiast


if yes, you must convict for Being Bad in the 1st degree. share this with your friends and if we can scrape enough random votes for random crimes, he'll be sharing a cell with bubba and deebo with an occasional conjugal booty call from fanny willis.

i'm just waiting for the secret audio recording of the fraudy felon to judge merchan or the jury foreman: "I need you to find me 12 votes! I've got my campaign lawyer on the line so don't fuck around!"

 

[LangfordBarrow]

If we're being honest, it'll probably be attempting to prove fraud in the 2020 election. Gonna have a 2020 Election Fraud Task Force on tap for Day 1.

Just like he started his first term... "The largest crowd ever..." "Obama tapped my wires..."