Crime Donald Trump Hush Money Fraud Trial (5/30 Update: Trump Found Guilty on All 34 Felony Charges)

I look at it this way...

Things that do matter: Trump is a bad person  and a criminal, with a long track record of duplicitous and underhanded tactics which he's gotten away with for decades, exacerbated by certain things he did while in office

Things that don't matter: practically everything else as he isn't an active politician.

At some point a candidate is so morally bankrupt that they should be disqualified from consideration for the job. I think we hit that point on Jan. 6, 2021. A litany of events since then have proven this perspective right, not wrong. That doesn't make Biden a good option, but he's the best option we have. I couldn't care less if anyone does or doesn't agree with me. People in here argue back and forth in circles and rarely come to an agreement.

Trump got what he deserved today. No conspiracy. It is what it is.
 
AndrewSUFC said:
I'm confused. Trump supporters are seemingly arguing that this conviction is proof of the vast conspiracy against him, and that it will help him win in November. How is the latter possible if the former exists? In fact, if the "whole country is rigged" as he has just claimed, why is Trump even bothering to run again?
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He has to run because winning is the only way he can make his other cases disappear. A drowning man might be too far from shore but he's still going to flail away.
 
Iron Mang said:
Meanwhile “Judge” Cannon is looking furiously through her instructions from the Federalist Society on how to dismiss the classified docs case, another slam dunk case. Kind of feels like shit is going to get worse before it starts to get better.

The best would just be nature taking its course on the most jacked, fittest, and largest hands President in history!
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The docs case is wildly more slam dunk than this one. There's literally nothing approaching a rational defense for it. He's documented doing everything he is accused of, it's completely open and shut.
...and there is absolutely not a snowballs chance in hell she doesn't throw it out one way or another.
 

Record number of donors for Trump after guilty verdict, campaign says​

Donald Trump's digital fundraising system had a record number of supporters following the guilty verdict on Thursday afternoon, according to Trump campaign senior advisor Brian Hughes.
The increase in traffic caused intermittent delays, he added.

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Do these people think they're paying for his freedom, or what's going on here?
 
Siver! said:

Record number of donors for Trump after guilty verdict, campaign says​

Donald Trump's digital fundraising system had a record number of supporters following the guilty verdict on Thursday afternoon, according to Trump campaign senior advisor Brian Hughes.
The increase in traffic caused intermittent delays, he added.

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Do these people think they're paying for his freedom, or what's going on here?
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You can't say "think" when discussing trump supporters.
 
Jballer said:
So as a convicted felon, Trump couldn’t get a job at Mcdonalds if he wanted to, yet there’s a chance he could be president again.
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Why don't you think McDonald's hires felons? That's probably like 20% of their employees.
 
I'm surprised that he was guilty on all 34. I figured Trump loyalty would impact it to some degree.

That said -- I'm waiting for the months of posts where people insist on going hard on poor criminals and hand-waving away this criminal.

I think we can all agree it's not going to change how his hardcore supporters and anti-leftists are going to view him.
 
brothir said:
I prefer the inverse way of looking at it, namely that the sad days were those he was getting away with it, with this being the turning point. You've said before that an election isn't like a chess match, so a corollary is that it's not like a strategy game between non-Trump voting Americans and him: you didn't "allow" him to become President in any meaningful way. Would you have blamed yourself in 1939 for Hitler?
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I think it's not like a chess game in the sense that Candidate X didn't "beat" Candidate Y as much as the people--rightly or wrongly--chose one of them. So we all collectively put him in that position. I personally opposed him, but you gotta wonder if you could have done something more. And I think I'd have similar feelings if I were German in the '30s. Like, I voted for the other guy, but could I have done something more. I'd probably have relatives, friends, and acquaintances on the other side (as I did with Trump). Could I have influenced them? Not sure.
 
i can see alot of people who are on the fence regarding the election shift over to Joe Biden
 
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