Does Khabib Lay Claim to the Most Embarrassing Statistic in UFC History? [and is this it?]

[markg171]

Omg you may actually be the dumbest poster on here.

How much you BURN in relation to your intake is what matters. You can eat like a pig and burn more than you eat and still lose weight. The important part isn't how much you eat. It's that your activity has to outback your caloric intake.

BOTH help you lose weight but if your burn doesn't out pace your intake you will gain weight.

I am genuinely curious how you manage to put your pants on daily that you can still keep repeating these and not realizing how you keep admitting that weight is based on how much you eat.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Trujillo was saved by the bell. Khabib had a tight triangle on him

He snatched that up quick too. Khabib had a killer guard that no one had the tools to force him to use

 

[Deleted member 585708]

He didn't refuse to cut weight lol. He didn't walk out of camp at 158. He tried to cut but couldn't. Cutting with a broken rib is hard as fuck. I literally just had to do it and I don't cut nearly as much as mma fighter do.

Mma fans play favorites with missing weight. Charles gets all the passes in the world but Khabib gets demonized. I don't like the double standard. Cutting weight is hard. Shit happens. It's not as big a deal as people make it

Bro... shush, you're overconfident in your opinion, but these things are documented. You can just use Google.

Spoiler

Nurmagomedov’s next fight against Abel Trujillo was announced in late February 2013. He had three months to get ready.

Despite this, he came in heavy. He tipped the scales at 158.5 lb, two-and-a-half pounds over the upper lightweight limit. He refused to take the two hours to cut to the extra poundage and instead opted to take the penalty.

As a result, he had to forfeit 20% of his purse to his opponent and the fight was contested at catchweight.

UPDATED: UFC 160 Velasquez vs. Bigfoot 2 Weigh-in Results; Two Fighters Miss Weight

The UFC 160 fighters on Friday stepped on the scale in Las Vegas to make their bouts official with special guest and former world boxing champion Mike Tyson accompanying UFC president Dana White on the stage at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

sports.yahoo.com

UPDATE: UFC officials later confirmed that Nurmagomedov declined to try and make weight. The fight will still take place, but Nurmagomedov was fined 20-percent of his fight purse, 10-percent of which goes to his opponent and the other 10-percent to the Nevada Athletic Commission.

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You were saying something about people playing favourites...?

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

I am genuinely curious how you manage to put your pants on properly daily that you can still keep repeating these and not realizing how you keep admitting that losing weight occurs based on how much you eat.

Omg you're too stupid to reason with. Both factors are dependent of each other. They occur in conjunction. If you make zero change to your diet and increase your exercise routine you will lose weight despite making no change to what you eat.

What you're claiming is that working out has no effect on weight loss which is objectively false. You are claiming that you what you eat needs to be the variable that changes. Also incorrect.

These are 2 factors that effect each other, therefore, you need both. As I explained many time before, including in my original post, fighters do the bulk of their cutting by increasing their caloric burn and controlling their intake. THEY HAVE TO DO BOTH. And completely independent of caloric intake, exercise causes you to lose water weight.

And thay doesn't even touch on how you were still categorically wring about water cuts being 95% of all weight cutting lol.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Bro... shush, you're overconfident in your opinion, but these things are documented. You can just use Google.

Spoiler

Nurmagomedov’s next fight against Abel Trujillo was announced in late February 2013. He had three months to get ready.

Despite this, he came in heavy. He tipped the scales at 158.5 lb, two-and-a-half pounds over the upper lightweight limit. He refused to take the two hours to cut to the extra poundage and instead opted to take the penalty.

As a result, he had to forfeit 20% of his purse to his opponent and the fight was contested at catchweight.

UPDATED: UFC 160 Velasquez vs. Bigfoot 2 Weigh-in Results; Two Fighters Miss Weight

The UFC 160 fighters on Friday stepped on the scale in Las Vegas to make their bouts official with special guest and former world boxing champion Mike Tyson accompanying UFC president Dana White on the stage at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

sports.yahoo.com

UPDATE: UFC officials later confirmed that Nurmagomedov declined to try and make weight. The fight will still take place, but Nurmagomedov was fined 20-percent of his fight purse, 10-percent of which goes to his opponent and the other 10-percent to the Nevada Athletic Commission.

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You were saying something about people playing favourites...?

??? I'm not playing favorites. I've been consistent about weight cutting being a bitch. You said he didn't try to cut weight. Not that he didn't refuse the extra time. I corrected you based off the wording of your post. Misunderstandings happen. Settle down.

Now, I already addressed how his injury made that decision a necessity but I think I can be clearer since there seems to be a miscommunication going on.

Khabib got injured in camp and tried to maintain his weight loss schedule. He could not work around the injury enough and tried to just cut more water. He couldn't lose enough without effecting his health or performance. The choice was take the hit to the purse or pullout. He chose to fight

 

[markg171]

Omg you're too stupid to reason with. Both factors are dependent of each other. They occur in conjunction. If you make zero change to your diet and increase your exercise routine you will lose weight despite making no change to what you eat.

What you're claiming is that working out has no effect on weight loss which is objectively false. You are claiming that you what you eat needs to be the variable that changes. Also incorrect.

These are 2 factors that effect each other, therefore, you need both. As I explained many time before, including in my original post, fighters do the bulk of their cutting by increasing their caloric burn and controlling their intake. THEY HAVE TO DO BOTH.

And thay doesn't even touch on how you were still categorically wring about water cuts being 95% of all weight cutting lol.

There's a reason why it's called "calories in, calories out", and not "calories out, calories in". How much you're eating is everything seeing as simply being alive already burns calories. This is why shit like starvation exists as you'll eventually burn your own body to death without eating by simply existing.

It takes 0 seconds not to eat calories compared to hours to burn them off with exercise or just existing.

Again, I am understanding why you and Khabib have such trouble making weight if you're trying to outburn your diets.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

??? I'm not playing favorites. I've been consistent about weight cutting being a bitch. You said he didn't try to cut weight. Not that he didn't refuse the extra time. I corrected you based off the wording of your post. Misunderstandings happen. Settle down.

Now, I already addressed how his injury made that decision a necessity but I think I can be clearer since there seems to be a miscommunication going on.

Khabib got injured in camp and tried to maintain his weight loss schedule. He could not work around the injury enough and tried to just cut more water. He couldn't lose enough without effecting his health or performance. The choice was take the hit to the purse or pullout. He chose to fight

I have no issues with your passion, I like it! Okay, sure, perhaps I could have said "refused to cut the last few pounds", but given he can't really have refused to cut any weight (in which case he'd have come in about 15 pounds over lol), I figured it was a given. No worries!

I feel you about weight cutting being hard, no, I have never been through it, but I have plenty of acquaintances who have and yeah. Not fun. I perhaps should have acknowledged that earlier. I've also known several pro fighters who have cut weight with pretty serious injuries. One of my friends is a pro fighter who had a fractured collarbone, hid the injury (against all advice), cut weight, made weight, and then lost when his collar bone broke in half

Nasty shit!

 

[UFConFOX]

Trujillo landed a few times during the minimal amount of time they spent not grappling/wrestling.

I don't know what else to tell ya lol the commentators were in hysterics every time Trujillo landed a punch, so it's hard to ignore.

Khabib had no interest in striking, all of this is factual.

But for sure I knew this would be controversial, hence why I'm asking for other anomalous statistics and not just outright defensiveness on Khabib's part haha

It's controversial in the same way as saying the Sun is warm, not hot. Perhaps even cool to the touch.

Yeah. Controversial is ....a word. It's not the one I'd choose unless I made the post myself lol

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

There's a reason why it's called "calories in, calories out", and not "calories out, calories in". How much you're eating is everything seeing as simply being alive already burns calories. This is why shit like starvation exists as you'll eventually burn your own body to death without eating by simply existing.

It takes 0 seconds not to eat calories compared to hours to burn them off with exercise or just existing.

Again, I am understanding why you and Khabib have such trouble making weight if you're trying to outburn your diets.

1) calories in calories out and calories out calories in are literally the same thing. It's just a marketing term. The entire concept is burn more than you eat. Same this as eat less than you burn. You have no critical thinking skills.

2) even in a stare of "inactivity" your body is constantly in a state of work. You burn calories passively which is why you need to eat. Again, one cannot work without the other.

3) your entire argument falls apart based on the simple fact that with no change in diet, you can lose weight by increasing your exercise.

4) weight loss by starvation is less effective, healthy, and maintainable than weight loss incorporating exercise. Posted sources for that earlier.

5) you literally cannot lose weight I'd you don't burn more than you're intaking. You have to outburn your diet to lose weight you moron.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

I have no issues with your passion, I like it! Okay, sure, perhaps I could have said "refused to cut the last few pounds", but given he can't really have refused to cut any weight (in which case he'd have come in about 15 pounds over lol), I figured it was a given. No worries!

I feel you about weight cutting being hard, no, I have never been through it, but I have plenty of acquaintances who have and yeah. Not fun. I perhaps should have acknowledged that earlier. I've also known several pro fighters who have cut weight with pretty serious injuries. One of my friends is a pro fighter who had a fractured collarbone, hid the injury (against all advice), cut weight, made weight, and then lost when his collar bone broke in half

Nasty shit!

Fuuuuck I hate to hear about shit like that. I've made weight with a broken rib and another time 2 weeks after I displaced my patella. It was hell. I did ok all things considered but I wouldn't do it again if I can help it. Your friend is tough as nails.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Fuuuuck I hate to hear about shit like that. I've made weight with a broken rib and another time 2 weeks after I displaced my patella. It was hell. I did ok all things considered but I wouldn't do it again if I can help it. Your friend is tough as nails.

He was convinced he was gonna go in, grab a quick sub, and get outta there unharmed - but alas, it sadly did not play out that way

I think a lot of the time such risks are predicated on the situation at the time - sometimes it can be really, really, really hard to pull out of a fight, as I'm sure you know!!

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

He was convinced he was gonna go in, grab a quick sub, and get outta there unharmed - but alas, it sadly did not play out that way

I think a lot of the time such risks are predicated on the situation at the time - sometimes it can be really, really, really hard to pull out of a fight, as I'm sure you know!!

Oh for sure man. In the moment you're convinced you can tough it out. Shit I got into a huge argument with my wife about not pulling out of ibjjf worlds when I fucked up my knee. I was convinced I could work around it and get on the podium. I got to the quarter finals and got hurt again lol.

 

[markg171]

1) calories in calories out and calories out calories in are literally the same thing. It's just a marketing term. The entire concept is burn more than you eat. Same this as eat less than you burn. You have no critical thinking skills.

2) even in a stare of "inactivity" your body is constantly in a state of work. You burn calories passively which is why you need to eat. Again, one cannot work without the other.

3) your entire argument falls apart based on the simple fact that with no change in diet, you can lose weight by increasing your exercise.

4) weight loss by starvation is less effective, healthy, and maintainable than weight loss incorporating exercise. Posted sources for that earlier.

5) you literally cannot lose weight I'd you don't burn more than you're intaking. You have to outburn your diet to lose weight you moron.

Sir, please explain how exactly you plan to create a calorie deficit to lose weight without knowing and controlling how much you eat in the first place. How do you plan on outworking 8000 calories unless you first know how many calories you ate and have to overcome to be in a deficit?

Food is the knowable and controllable variable seeing as we know how many calories are in the food. It's even literally printed on the package for you.

 

[richardjohnson]

Mma fans play favorites with missing weight.

This. Just look at Costa vs Vettori, the dude didn’t even try to make weight and had a million excuses for doing so and people just thought it was funny because he repeats secret juice all the time.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Sir, please explain how exactly you plan to create a calorie deficit to lose weight without controlling how much you ate in the first place. How do you plan on outworking 8000 calories consumed unless you first know you ate 8000 calories?

Food is literally the knowable and controllable variable seeing as we know how many calories are in the food.

I work out at a rate that keeps my weight the same regularly. Therefore, while changing nothing about my diet, if I double my normal routine I will lose weight. Not complicated at all. You just can't think critically.

I've been cutting and making weight since I was a teen. Never counted calories. Always made weight. Train with a gym full of people who so the same.

Stop talking about shit you have no experience with

 

[tritestill]

I recall this fight, was watching at Buffalo Wild Wings in Virginia, manager from my job thought Khabib was going to lose, because Abel had muscles

 

[StonedLemur]

Sherdog, the only place on earth that getting 21 takedowns is "embarrassing".

Dude was just starting his UFC career and won by a wide margin, but yes I guess it's embarrassing to win so dominantly.

 

[StonedLemur]

I work out at a rate that keeps my weight the same regularly. Therefore, while changing nothing about my diet, if I double my normal routine I will lose weight. Not complicated at all. You just can't think critically.

I've been cutting and making weight since I was a teen. Never counted calories. Always made weight. Train with a gym full of people who so the same.

Stop talking about shit you have no experience with

You were probably fighting at a weight close to your own, unlike most of the UFC fighters tbf sir.

 

[Aurelian]

This might be the funniest back and forth I've seen on weight loss.

Exercise and you'll burn calories. Yeah no shit.
Take in less calories than you should and you'll lose weight. Yeah also no shit.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

You were probably fighting at a weight close to your own, unlike most of the UFC fighters tbf sir.

Eeeh depends on the event. More often than not I have same day weigh ins. So for those, I don't cut too much. But for others I'll drop a lot. I hate cutting tho so I'll usually just be the small guy and cut a little less