Opinion Do you think women will ever lose right to vote ? Or are Interracial marriage bans are possible?

[BFoe]

Women will still vote and women will still be able to work. Roe was bad law. Overturning of roe is progress

Taking rights of personal autonomy away from the individual and vesting that power in the government instead, is hardly progress.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

Are you trolling?

I'm being dead serious.

 

[AGEZ909]

Taking rights of personal autonomy away from the individual and vesting that power in the government instead, is hardly progress.

Murdering unborn children is not progress.

Even then, just misdirection on your part. Overturning of Roe simply allows states to make their own decisions. Overturning Roe did not ban abortion.

 

[BFoe]

there will be no law enforced against homosexual couples.

You know I always got respect for ya, but you’re out of your mind on this one. The GOP in TX just added this to their platform a couple of months ago.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna34530
I think you completely misjudge what most red states will do.

 

[Kirra]

I'm being dead serious.

Your position is that no state will disallow gay marriage when states already disallow both gay marriage and gay sex.

 

[ReligiousDiscipline]

In light of moving backwards on abortion and rumors of overturning same sex marriage.

Couls you see any countries in the world removing womens right to vote which all countries have except now it seems Taliban run Afghanistan.

What about interracial marriage bans which only Arab countries seem to have ? Could you see nations anywhere else doing this.


Do you think in the US or anywhere else in the world they will move backwards? Only countries I read dont allow this stuff are middle eastern ones.

Crazy times we in

How does it follow that making it more difficult to kill unborn children will lead to women being unable to vote?

 

[BFoe]

Murdering unborn children is not progress.

Even then, just misdirection on your part. Overturning of Roe simply allows states to make their own decisions. Overturning Roe did not ban abortion.

That’s not what I said. I said it takes power of bodily autonomy away from the individual and vests that power in the government instead. That is factually what the anti-abortion position does. Own up to it.
That is literally what it does, and you just said it yourself: states (i.e., state governments) get to make the decision rather than the individual. If there is a conflict, the individual is out of luck and the state forces the person to do what they want them to do.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

You know I always got respect for ya, but you’re out of your mind on this one. The GOP in TX just added this to their platform a couple of months ago.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna34530
I think you completely misjudge what most red states will do.

I think it will be political suicide for a 'red' state to go ahead with this - almost guaranteeing a flip to blue. I just don't see it happening.

 

[Zazen]

Since the US is becoming more Christian, I'm waiting for this one to be observed:

"“Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery."

It's actually becoming less Christian overall but the ones with extreme views are more bold than ever.

Gay marriage is definitely on the chopping block. Even Ted Cruz is coming out saying it was a mistake. It will go to state rights and people within red states would have to move. Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[Deorum]

lol @ North Dakota being among the first five states in the country to decriminalize it back in the early '70s. That's my muhfuckin' Heartland.



But see, no marriage and no anti-discrimination laws based on sexual orientation. It's still conservative without being fucking psycho. And sodomy laws are third-world fundamentalist level psycho.

Buggery In The Barn, lmao. Butt don't ever talk about it, for god sakes. And to live exclusively as a homo? Hell Nah. It's a discreet side activity to relieve the tension and urges.

Are you trolling?

You know I always got respect for ya, but you’re out of your mind on this one. The GOP in TX just added this to their platform a couple of months ago.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna34530
I think you completely misjudge what most red states will do.

I don't think that the majority of Sherdoggers are actually opposed to equality.but hearing or being told that discrimination, inequality and even oppression exist (or have very recently existed) is utter anathema to them that arouses a mix of denial and/or hostility depending on the person's temperament. A lot of people are just straight up oblivious about civil rights or the struggle and unfortunate strong-arming that it took to get to present day, which is in the midst of an equally strong-arm rollback.

 

[oldshadow]

Ehhh I don’t think it’s quite that simple. It depends on how it was legalized. In my state, it’s not only the SCOTUS decision but also decision of the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals that makes it legal in my state. If Obergefell falls at the SCOTUS though, gay marriage wouldn’t remain legal here. That’s the case in many states.

In all but the 13 states that don't specifically make it legal, the 37 states it would remain legal. In the 13 it would be up for debate as to if it's legal or not. They would be free to make it legal or not. In the other 37 they would have to repeal the law making it legal to make it illegal.

 

[AGEZ909]

That’s not what I said. I said it takes power of bodily autonomy away from the individual and vests that power in the government instead. That is factually what the anti-abortion position does. Own up to it.
That is literally what it does, and you just said it yourself: states (i.e., state governments) get to make the decision rather than the individual. If there is a conflict, the individual is out of luck and the state forces the person to do what they want them to do.

Bodily autonomy to do what? exactly? to rub your feet? to massage ones own head? Or to end the life of an unborn child?

Using Euphemisms to obfuscate what is really going on.

I am definitely for smaller government, but i believe government SHOULD be in the business of stopping murder.

 

[panamaican]

I can see interracial marriages losing their protection, which is different from being "banned", but not women getting the right to vote because that one is in a Constitutional Amendment.

 

[Kirra]

I don't think that the majority of Sherdoggers are actually opposed to equality.but hearing or being told that discrimination, inequality and even oppression exist (or have very recently existed) is utter anathema to them that arouses a mix of denial and/or hostility depending on the person's temperament. A lot of people are just straight up oblivious about civil rights or the struggle and unfortunate strong-arming that it took to get to present day, which is in the midst of an equally strong-arm rollback.

Yeah, it's fucking weird. How do you claim that nobody is trying to outlaw gay marriage when there are already multiple states that have outright banned it?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state

"29 states have constitutions that include bans on same-sex marriage and/or other types of unions, and 31 have statutes that ban same-sex marriage and/or other types of unions, although these are all defunct under the Obergefell ruling. In November 2020, Nevada became the first state to repeal its constitutional ban on same-sex marriage.

As of 2015, same-sex marriage is now federally legal in all 50 states due to a ruling from the Supreme Court."

 

[Deleted member 449757]

Maybe women will start to get drafted but i don't think the right to vote will be revoked (unless it may possibly be revoked for everyone eventually).

 

[Kirra]

Maybe women will start to get drafted but i don't think the right to vote will be revoked (unless it may possibly be revoked for everyone eventually).

Are you guys bringing back the draft too?

What a time to be alive.

 

[Snowblindlove]

Since the US is becoming more Christian, I'm waiting for this one to be observed:

"“Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery."

Mistranslation of the Hebrew. Divorce is allowed but not ideal. Catholics are wrong

 

[Deleted member 449757]

Are you guys bringing back the draft too?

What a time to be alive.

What guys?

 

[Poatan Power]

This topic is idiotic and misleading.

 

[BFoe]

I think it will be political suicide for a 'red' state to go ahead with this - almost guaranteeing a flip to blue. I just don't see it happening.

Well, let’s table this discussion until after midterms. These abortion bans should be political suicide too, but I don’t think they will be. There’s a lot less homosexuals in a given state than there are women, and I think you misjudge how many people in a state would push back on that.

I don't think that the majority of Sherdoggers are actually opposed to equality.but hearing or being told that discrimination, inequality and even oppression exist (or have very recently existed) is utter anathema to them that arouses a mix of denial and/or hostility depending on the person's temperament. A lot of people are just straight up oblivious about civil rights or the struggle and unfortunate strong-arming that it took to get to present day, which is in the midst of an equally strong-arm rollback.

That’s the bullshit that the Right loves to push. It’s basically, “Of course we oppose racism, and golly isn’t it great that that’s all been solved already so that we can feel guiltless while we diminish their voting power with gerrymandered districts, “back the badge” every time an African American is needlessly harmed by police, pass voting laws which burden minorities disproportionately, cut SNAP and WIC…” and so on. It’s willful ignorance.

In all but the 13 states that don't specifically make it legal, the 37 states it would remain legal. In the 13 it would be up for debate as to if it's legal or not. They would be free to make it legal or not. In the other 37 they would have to repeal the law making it legal to make it illegal.

That’s not entirely accurate is what I’m telling you though.
Ultimately it doesn’t matter—13 states is too many. 1 state is too many. Imagine a married couple traveling to another state, and a bad accident happens. One partner is in the hospital, and only spouses or family are allowed to visit. The other partner is excluded because their marriage isn’t recognized in the state they’re in. I cannot conceive how that wouldn’t be a violation of the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause. Marriage is a personal right, not a state right.