Do you think there is a current fighter that can bump off one of the four horsemen GOAT group?

[Takes Two To Tango]

Basically I believe most think the four horsemen are:

Fedor
GSP
Jones
Silva

Anyone currently can bump one of these fighters out of the group and potentially be a new horseman?

The only two guys I can think of is Islam if he keeps on doing what he's doing. I even think Chimaev has good chance, if he lives up to his potential.

 

[swarrrm]

Jones and Silva are disqualified. Replace them with DJ and Aldo. That being said, I voted Islam, and he's only a couple wins away from doing it.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Jones and Silva are disqualified. Replace them with DJ and Aldo. That being said, I voted Islam, and he's only a couple wins away from doing it.

I see, that's cool.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

Islam is in the discussion after about 3-4 more title defenses and moving up and winning a belt.

Pereira is in the discussion after about 3 more title defenses and moving up to win the heavyweight belt.

 

[VinceArch]

Agree with not counting Jones and Anderson in there and it would be very interesting to see a prime GSP against either Khamzat or Shavkat.

 

[Ozze]

The thread question and the poll question are different ones.

Voted Islam as of those listed he would have the best chance. But I don't think he'll be able to.

 

[10000yearsold]

Khamz and Islam are already superior to pretty much all those guys imo

 

[joy2day]

No. Illia has the best chance.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Jones and Silva are disqualified. Replace them with DJ and Aldo. That being said, I voted Islam, and he's only a couple wins away from doing it.

I 100% agree with adding DJ. As far as Islam is concerned will those couple of wins be against FWs, LWs in the the range of #10 or any chance it is an actual legit #1 contender? He skipped a ranked LW that was the official backup fighter for a rematch with a FW he decisively beat. Then he chooses Moicano who has never been above #10 over Dariush who had been perennially top 5. He looks great in there but his opposition is carefully selected when he has the chance. Padded record is a bit strong but he hasn't fought the best available during his defense streak.

 

[World eater]

Pereira is in the discussion after about 3 more title defenses and moving up to win the heavyweight belt.

If Pereira wins the HW belt, he is immediately there, no discussion or additional wins needed. But since it will most likely never happen, I’d go with Ilia or Islam after a few more and the belt in the division above.

 

[Black9]

I 100% agree with adding DJ. As far as Islam is concerned will those couple of wins be against FWs, LWs in the the range of #10 or any chance it is an actual legit #1 contender? He skipped a ranked LW that was the official backup fighter for a rematch with a FW he decisively beat. Then he chooses Moicano who has never been above #10 over Dariush who had been perennially top 5. He looks great in there but his opposition is carefully selected when he has the chance. Padded record is a bit strong but he hasn't fought the best available during his defense streak.

This gotta be the worst argument.
It's clear Islam WOULD fight anyone UFC puts in front of him as proven with the late notice replacements. He's beaten everyone coming off a win in the LW top 10 already.

 

[HHJ]

None of them are gettin bumped off. Except Jones' asterisk pulling him down. BJ Penn used to be in the 4th spot instead of him.

Poatan might very well retire undefeated, but there arent alot of great fighters for him to fight in his era. Adesanya still the best guy he beat.

 

[cshireman4]

Eh. Four-horsemen. MMA Mount Rushmore. Almost as pointless as the GOAT discussions. Just went from picking 1 fighter to arbitrarily picking 4. Seems stupid and unnecessary. I'm in.

1. Ilia-long career ahead of him and already proven to be a wrecking ball. Not sure what the inevitable bump to 155 will have in store for him though. Still isn't known by casuals
2. Islam-solid body of work and still should have some left in the tank. Arman or Ilia fights add to the LW legacy and he's talked about moving up as well
3. Khamzat-insane hype/aura. Clearly very talented, but we need to see him go 5 rounds with the best in the world. Relatively young, but has health issues
4. Alex Pereira-already won 2 belts and KOs everyone. Could make the jump to HW, but I don't see him winning there. Needs to beat a solid grappler. Age is the most limiting factor
5. Shavkat-Also relatively young. Needs to win a belt and definitively beat higher caliber opponents. Isn't the household name those ranked ahead of him are
6. Volk. What a fighter. He'll never knock one of your four listed off their perch though. Didn't get it done at LW. Back to back KO losses. Not enough runway left to make up for recent blemishes

 

[HHJ]

If Pereira wins the HW belt, he is immediately there, no discussion or additional wins needed. But since it will most likely never happen, I’d go with Ilia or Islam after a few more and the belt in the division above.

I think that is the only thing he can do to end up on that list.

 

[mister piscadinha]

wtf are non champions shavkat and chimaev doing there?

 

[TheMadHatter]

If we are leaving off fighters who failed drug tests I am ruling Islam out of contention for his 2016 failed test.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Islam needs to fight Arman ASAP. 2 of his title defenses are against a FW with 0 fights at 155 outside of Islam. His most recent title defense is against a guy that would've probably never gotten a title shot.

 

[El Casualito]

Ilia could do it as he is very young and well rounded. However I think he is a bit of a diva and will fight maximum twice a year and probably retire young, so he won't achieve hiss full potential career wise

 

[jeff7b9]

Islam is in the discussion after about 3-4 more title defenses and moving up and winning a belt.

Pereira is in the discussion after about 3 more title defenses and moving up to win the heavyweight belt.

Yes but...

Alex.pereira is 37.

Gonna be tough to accumulate the milage.

Dude has had an EPIC mma career though

 

[BJJ4Tone]

Basically I believe most think the four horsemen are:

Fedor
GSP
Jones
Silva

Anyone currently can bump one of these fighters out of the group and potentially be a new horseman?

The only two guys I can think of is Islam if he keeps on doing what he's doing. I even think Chimaev has good chance, if he lives up to his potential.

I would personally already have Khabib over Anderson.
I know Anderson had the longest winning streak and 2nd-most title defenses, but he has way too many bad losses.
I know I'll get flamed, but that is my opinion.

155 lbs Khabib beats Chris Leben, Travis Lutter and Patrick Cote. Not to mention Ryo Chonan and Daiju Takase.



I know Khabib didn't stay around long enough to stack wins like some of these guys, but no one has been CLOSE to as dominant as Khabib.
If anything, him retiring in his prime, at the TOP, only enhances his legacy.