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Do you think Hollywood will bounce back and produce good movies again?

No. Hollywood has sucked for years. Now, with this new flower power agenda, its game, set, match.

Most of the quality films from North America will come from the underground. Low budget, independent films.

Kinda like music.
 
The box checking needs to end. It's no secret that good scripts aren't being picked up, because they don't check certain boxes. Now the Academy Awards are demanding box checking to even be nominated. That shit has to die, for creativity to flourish. At least in the mainstream. Their big cash cows are running out of steam, and the industry has been bleeding money in general for years, but add COVID and the strike to that, and I can't imagine studios are gonna give too much of fuck about anything, other than their bottom lines, and will soon start going with whatever works, rather than trying to force agendas down everyone's throats.
 
There are a lot of great movies now, mixed in with a lot of crap, just like there's always been.

Ari Aster and Rob Eggers keep knocking it out of the park, and Brandon Cronenberg is showing a lot of promise.

If all you watch are Marvel movies, then yeah, I can see why you would think that everything sucks now.
 
"Barbie" answers EVERY question about the future of that cesspool.
 
There are still quality films being made imo, they just don’t get the attention or the money that the mainstream ones do. There’s not as much originality as there once was, there’s a larger emphasis on sequels, reboots, requels, and everyone wants a cinematic universe. I can’t really blame Hollywood either since this is obviously where the money is. But there are still great original films being made.
 
There are still quality films being made imo, they just don’t get the attention or the money that the mainstream ones do. There’s not as much originality as there once was, there’s a larger emphasis on sequels, reboots, requels, and everyone wants a cinematic universe. I can’t really blame Hollywood either since this is obviously where the money is. But there are still great original films being made.

I would say though that actually Hollywood became very "safe" well before it became obcessed with sequels and the like, indeed I think the era of CGI showpieces was actually a blander one that the last 10-15 years has been.
 
I think social media has killed the mythos of the movie star as well. People have realised they're pretty shitty people and have switched off.

I think this is a hopelessly optimistic take. I see it having gone the other way. It's not that people have woken up to the fact that celebrities are garbage humans unworthy of praise and adoration. It's that the pool of people to be praised and adored is now much much wider, with social media personalities taking over and vastly expanding this domain. And they are in no way better people than the movie stars of decades past. In fact, clearly much worse in many cases.

Idolizing some vapid moron millionaire who looks pretty and may or may not be able to act is pretty bad, but now people idolize grifters, pornstars and YouTube pranksters. It's much worse.
 
I think this is a hopelessly optimistic take. I see it having gone the other way. It's not that people have woken up to the fact that celebrities are garbage humans unworthy of praise and adoration. It's that the pool of people to be praised and adored is now much much wider, with social media personalities taking over and vastly expanding this domain. And they are in no way better people than the movie stars of decades past. In fact, clearly much worse in many cases.

Idolizing some vapid moron millionaire who looks pretty and may or may not be able to act is pretty bad, but now people idolize grifters, pornstars and YouTube pranksters. It's much worse.

It's the democratisation of stardom. Before social media, people were told who to worship as actors were propelled into the big leagues (usually via the casting couch, males and females)

Now any idiot can broadcast themselves and become famous, and people are turning away from the big celebrities. It wasn't that long ago the industry was trying to retire off Tom Cruise and replace him with a new set of vapid mouth pieces. Now he's more popular than ever and the new batch are treated as a joke.
 
At this point, I just don't see it happening. I have a prediction that another country will step up and start pumping out movies that are better than in Hollywood. Or maybe another country will start financing good movies. Or AI will turn things around in Hollywood.
If they drop the woke bullshit and focus on making real movies again, then sure. (We still get some gems every so often, but a bulk of what comes out anymore is mostly dogshit. Movies, TV, etc)
 
Also, people are now desensitized to gore and the same predictable plot. They're not scary anymore.
 
Once you stopped seeing this, you knew it was going downhill.
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Once you stopped seeing this, you knew it was going downhill.
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Also producers like Carolco and Orion, semi independent.

Studios like WB and Sony really the tide of crap they've put out in the last 15 years a lot of it has to do with being so dominated by talentless execs, people who've climbed the cooperate latter rather than actually having a record of success. Such people are able to fuck up for years and years in the current enviroment and remain in power.
 
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At this point, I just don't see it happening. I have a prediction that another country will step up and start pumping out movies that are better than in Hollywood. Or maybe another country will start financing good movies. Or AI will turn things around in Hollywood.

No. Tbh it's irrelevant. I am not going and nor is a lot of people. Dog shit rubbish movies. Also the refusal of service being I don't want a cardiac event experimental drug.

They can eat a bag of Ds.
 
I enjoyed the movies this year. Oppenheimer, Cocaine bear. Super Mario. All very different and all enjoyable on the big screen.

I'm not going to say John Wick was a masterpiece or Blue Beetle was ground breaking. But those kind of movies have a role and ready audience.

Now why they keep making fast and furious and jurassic park movies is beyond me . . .
 
I think this is a hopelessly optimistic take. I see it having gone the other way. It's not that people have woken up to the fact that celebrities are garbage humans unworthy of praise and adoration. It's that the pool of people to be praised and adored is now much much wider, with social media personalities taking over and vastly expanding this domain. And they are in no way better people than the movie stars of decades past. In fact, clearly much worse in many cases.

Idolizing some vapid moron millionaire who looks pretty and may or may not be able to act is pretty bad, but now people idolize grifters, pornstars and YouTube pranksters. It's much worse.

I think you've seen the people who would have been celebs in yesteryear rise above it somewhat, most big film/music/sports stars tend to try and stay away from the media outside of direct promotion work these days and you've had a class of social media "stars" who's career it basically is to generate interest in the celebrity media.
 
No idea. Right now the economics make it hard to be original. They used to get a lot more out of the second run market through VHS tapes and DVDs. Now that has gone away and putting up the money for something new and different or in any way risky is not attractive.
 

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