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Do You Think Cain vs. JDS III Was Too Soon?

A fighter who is badly beaten must demonstrate new skills to justify a rematch. But the UFC is obsessed with rematches and giving former champions titleshots after very little new success.
 
A bit.. the main problem was that they gave JDS a striker to fight for #1 contendership, when he needs to be practicing against wrestlers and fence grinders, ya know.......
 
It's tight. JDS was the number 2 at that point and it was 1/1. People were split on who would win. We wouldn't see some much butt hurt if it wasn't seen that way. We still have fools constantly posting JDS has better striking, so JDS was perceived and still is perceived as threat to Cain.
Then again it was pretty fast for a rematch after the beating Cain handed JDS so I could see why a lot of people would say it was too early.
Still JDS was number 2 and who else was cain going to fight? Maybe werdum but most wouldn't say he was number 2. I'd always want to see the 1 and 2 guys fight personally.
 
Johntreksmith said:
It's tight. JDS was the number 2 at that point and it was 1/1. People were split on who would win. We wouldn't see some much butt hurt if it wasn't seen that way. We still have fools constantly posting JDS has better striking, so JDS was perceived and still is perceived as threat to Cain.
Then again it was pretty fast for a rematch after the beating Cain handed JDS so I could see why a lot of people would say it was too early.
Still JDS was number 2 and who else was cain going to fight? Maybe werdum but most wouldn't say he was number 2. I'd always want to see the 1 and 2 guys fight personally.
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If we always had the consensus #1 and #2 guys fight, the majority of title fights in several divisions would be rematches, rubber matches, or tetralogy's with few other title fights in those divisions ever happening in between. No thanks.
 
Lanshire said:
If we always had the consensus #1 and #2 guys fight, the majority of title fights in several divisions would be rematches, rubber matches, or tetralogy's with few other title fights in those divisions ever happening in between. No thanks.
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I usually will drop a guy down in my ranking's after he losses. So right now I'd put Werdum over JDS in ranking. My reasoning is that after a fighter gets beaten badly his confidence suffers. But I get where you are coming from and you have good points.
Usually rematches after someone gets beaten badly doesn't happen for the same reason I drop guys down and the same reason they don't tend to put a guy who just won against a guy who just lost. Some guys never get it back or it takes a while. Hardy is a prime example.

Good points though, I see where you are coming from.
 
It should have never happened. After the third fight I'm convinced Dos Santos should have never got that third fight nor should he never get another fight against Velasquez again.
 
I don't think it was too soon personally. Had Overeem stepped up and won his fights we would have had some fresh blood contending for the title, but as it is no one else was more deserving than JDS at the time.

And now we have all our questions answered about the Cain/JDS matchup. Werdum and Barnett will make interesting contenders in the near future.
 
mmaknight said:
It should have never happened. After the third fight I'm convinced Dos Santos should have never got that third fight nor should he never get another fight against Velasquez again.
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You mean 2nd fight.

I respectfully disagree when you say the 3rd fight was unnecessary, though.
They were 1-1 and that's enough argument to make a 3rd fight.
 
mmaknight said:
It should have never happened. After the third fight I'm convinced Dos Santos should have never got that third fight nor should he never get another fight against Velasquez again.
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That sounds like one of those "20/20 hindsight" things. You can't have to see something to know that you never should have had to see it.
 
In the big picture, yes. I think JDS is still showing improvements.

But in the day to day picture, it was go time.
 
No, don't think it would have changed anything. Junior still would have had the same gameplan.
 
Yes. Chances are Cain still would have dominated like that, but I think JDS should have had another fight against a contender like Cormier or even Stipe. Cain defending the title once more after Bigfoot against someone like Browne would have added so much intrigue to the match up and made it even bigger.
 
HW division is so weak that no other fight made sense, so it was early but things couldnt go any different talking about matchmaking
 
I don't think it would've mattered. Cain has a great strategy to beat JDS.
 
Yes. Thought it all along. Didn't give Junior anywhere near enough time to improve his game so much that he could deal with Cain's pace or clinching.
 
Yes because it makes the hw division look even weaker than what it is.
 
I think Junior's performance showed that, while it was too soon regardless of that anyway. No real build-up.
 
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