Do you support Roe Vs. Wade?

[IamStryker]

Your last statement isnt true at all lmao.

Words matter. What you meant is "if I never wanted to take the chance of getting in a car accident, I would never drive".

That is obviously what I was saying. I don't know why rephrasing it is so important to you.

If you could eliminate the chance of an accident and still drive, you absolutely would.

Why does this need to be said? It's an obvious statement and doesn't change the overall point at all.

 

[Fawlty]

Just to let everyone know, if you make abortions illegal you are just giving women who seek them a death sentence. Look up pre-modern abortion techniques. It doesn't just go away you sadists, that it why we have to have safe facilities for this procedure to be done.

And if they go through with the pregnancy, the vast majority of them will be a serious (unnecessary) burden on their communities, especially in the communities who pretend to care about the child until it is born to an underfunded welfare system and a chorus of cheers from anticipatory private prison executives.

 

[tkotom]

It is freedom. Also why are a bunch of old white men deciding who can get abortions and when they can get them? Isn't this a decision between a women and their doctor?

Can you imagine if men had children? Bwahahahahaha. We would be getting abortions every other year but since it's women...

Are you stupid or is it just an act?

It was white men who voted in favor of Roe v Wade.

Also, skin colour has nothing to do with murder.

 

[tkotom]

If people would simply remove religious thinking from this debate the decision becomes extremely easy

Murder is not a religiously exclusive concept. it is a basic human moral concept.

 

[tkotom]

And if I was aborted?? Then so what? Life would still go on and the world wouldn't miss a beat. I'm really not seeing much relevance to your arguments besides emotional ones

This is an awesome argument.

If I drilled a hole in the base of your skull, right now, and vacuumed your brains out, you should have no problem with it.. I mean you will not want me prosecuted or anything. You also wouldn't have any issue if I told your parents how you died?

"Life would still go on and the world wouldn't miss a beat" --- This is a great line from you lol.

 

[tkotom]

Just to let everyone know, if you make abortions illegal you are just giving women who seek them a death sentence. Look up pre-modern abortion techniques. It doesn't just go away you sadists, that it why we have to have safe facilities for this procedure to be done.

Nobody is forcing women to have children. So what difference does it make that women will have 'back alley abortions'.. They had sex knowing that they could get pregnant.

The law is the law but don't talk shit.

 

[tkotom]

And if they go through with the pregnancy, the vast majority of them will be a serious (unnecessary) burden on their communities, especially in the communities who pretend to care about the child until it is born to an underfunded welfare system and a chorus of cheers from anticipatory private prison executives.

lol aborted babies are destined for the prisons?

what the fuck are you talking about?

 

[squeezewax]

I don't know what Roe vs Wade is all about, the rest of the world hasn't heard of this.
As far as abortions go, males simply don't have the right to tell a female she MUST carry on with a pregnancy, it's totally ridiculous for any guy to believe they have that right to tell them.

A fetus isn't a human being, and even if it were surely it's up to the female to say yay or nay about something growing inside of her body? If i were able to get pregnant i'm damn sure i'd want that right!

 

[waiguoren]

I don't know what Roe vs Wade is all about, the rest of the world hasn't heard of this.

In the United States of America, we are a federal republic with 50 states. The voters in some states want liberal abortion laws. In other states, the voters want conservative abortion laws.

 

[Son of Jamin]

<= Ben Shapiro

 

[SMillard]

Its a matter of valuing life and we disagree, if freedom is the excuse to commit murder at least don´t put tax payer money over it.

Can you please tell me where federal tax dollars are used to pay for abortions? Seriously, everything I've seen indicates that there is none and that the money that Planned Parenthood gets specifically states it's not to be used for abortions. The federal government does pay for contraceptives, but from your previous posts I don't think you have a problem with that, although some do.

As far as the valuing of life, well again, as I said if the fetus would survive without the mother than I'd say you'd have a point but if the fetus has no chance of survival without the mother than it is not an issue to me. Then again, I don't have the same value of life that most (apparently you included) do and I respect it but don't agree with the notion that life is precious. If life were precious there wouldn't be over 6 billion of us with that number going up. Life it's not an infinite thing, we are all going to die, it's just a matter of when, I can't see where perpetuating one potential life at the detriment of others is a worthy endeavor.

 

[SMillard]

Every atheist on YouTube seems to have a cat and/or dog.

The point I was getting at is that the same people who don't give a @#$% about flushing a baby down a drain, are the same people who nearly @#$% their pants with joy when they find out that "Whiskers" is expecting kittens.

wrong, that's why I had my dogs' nuts cut off. I can barely handle the two of them, I don't need more because they can't keep from sticking their dick in something.

 

[SMillard]

lol "rights", where do they come from.

they come from our self determination to treat each other the way we want to be treated. You know the same thing that's been stated as a foundation for the legal system of pretty much every culture and even religion.

Let me guess, you're one of those people that thought Jesus was the only person to ever say "treat others as you'd have them treat you" right?

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Yah.
Women will just get lower grade abortions.
It's an abhorrent means of birth control but.

 

[SMillard]

Guns are used by non criminals to defend themselves from the criminals. Disarming the non criminals doesn't help anything. You can't show that you can actually reduce the amount of guns that criminals possess. Outlawing guns isn't going to stop them from getting and using them.

Abortion is very ethically wrong and should therefore be illegal. A gun is not ethically wrong. It's just what criminals do with them that is bad. It's reasonable to conclude that the number of abortions would go down if they weren't so easy to get and socially acceptable.



That makes absolutely no sense. I shouldn't mind if people are killing their children because they aren't my children? What a terrible argument.

how do you determine who are the criminals before their criminal act? You have some "Minority Report" like pre-cog stuff going on there? Fewer guns and more importantly less ammunition available would have an impact on the number of crimes committed with guns. Hell look at the old Chris Rock bit about if a bullet cost $5,000, people would think long and hard about what they are about to blow 5 Gs on.
There were always women having abortions, it would continue. The problem would be akin to the underground drug trade, you'd have people run a higher risk of complications and fatalities due to unethical or poorly trained performing them the same way people self prescribe the illegal drugs.

Your ethics (as been demonstrated in this thread, and throughout many debates) are not the same as everyone else's, you can vilify that all you want but it's just a fact.

I don't regard it as killing, the fetus wouldn't survive on it's own outside the mother, it is a dependant entity, therefore it is the host organism's choice not mine. Don't mean to be insulting but, it's a "terrible argument" because you aren't open to other people's views. I understand and respect your views and wouldn't want to force you to do something you wouldn't feel morally against, but you have no reservations about shitting all over other people's' beliefs or positions. So with that, I consider this conversation done unless you wish to analyze this with some level of empathy, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

 

[zebby23]

Are you stupid or is it just an act?

It was white men who voted in favor of Roe v Wade.

Also, skin colour has nothing to do with murder.

It's pretty clear you are attacking me simply because you are religious and religion makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside. Well, I believe religion is fake and if you can't debate without emotion that you really have no argument to be made.

 

[zebby23]

<= Ben Shapiro

Ben Shapiro is wrong on this issue and posting a meme doesn't help your cause. Makes you look lazy

 

[zebby23]

This is an awesome argument.

If I drilled a hole in the base of your skull, right now, and vacuumed your brains out, you should have no problem with it.. I mean you will not want me prosecuted or anything. You also wouldn't have any issue if I told your parents how you died?

"Life would still go on and the world wouldn't miss a beat" --- This is a great line from you lol.

Are you stupid? My family would be upset and would prosecute you but LIFE as a whole would go on and not miss a beat. You religious nuts are really bad at analogies also lol. Remove your emotions before trying to debate an issue.

Also I can tell you are a youngster... tell "my parents" how I died? lol

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

I don't see what the problem is. People hate Liberals but don't want them to kill their babies thus controlling the Liberal population. It's just like spaying and neutering pets, IMO.

 

[zebby23]

I don't see what the problem is. People hate Liberals but don't want them to kill their babies thus controlling the Liberal population. It's just like spaying and neutering pets, IMO.

Republicans only want liberal babies born until they are born