Hot Take Do you still think Aspinall would beat Jones?

[Trabaho]

Tom is phisically stronger. Jon mentaly. Both matter. I pick Tom to win.
Jon is the mentaly strongest fighter anyways. Out of anyone. Not too angry, not too sensitive, just right. He always was the strongest mentaly and also one of the very smartest as far as fighting goes. His dirty tricks are inteligent too but a evil inteligence which is dumb. Hence he has drug or whatever drama problems sometimes. It comes back to bite you in the ass. Did you notice how he gave Reyes a huge knee to the tigh just a second after the round ended. So he planned the ref won´t punish it as it will come off as ok you did that but just after the buzzer and do the tigh not to the face. That was his evil side. He knew Reyes stop fighting when the round end and he will get away with it from the ref cause he threw it exactly after the buzzer. Ryes looked annoyed and disgusted. He waited on it. He literaly has cheating strategies. How to cheat in a way it won´t hurt his result. I don´t like it. That´s why he has so many haters. So you win money but also get bad spirits. If you really are winning you aren´t gonna coke yourself up and drink a bottle. I drifted into philosophy. Just it´s not philosophy. But let´s call it that for simpler minds.

 

[MMACro]

Definitely

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

i just wanted to see Jones vs live HWs. Gane shit the bed, and Stipe was ancient. Jones not wanting to fight Tom is understandable. even though he is a steroid cheat and all that, i don't really care about that. the problems i have is holding the belt hostage for nothing and when people automatically dismiss challenges over assumed outcomes and pretend like everything is a foregone conclusion. i'm dumb, i MUST see it to believe it. you have to prove it, you can't just say "Jones is the best ever, his skill on paper is better than ALL the HWS" meanwhile in MMA we've seen dozens and dozens of times that skill means a lot but not EVERYTHING. especially at HW where everyone is 1 punch away from a win.

the other thing is, if it's so easy why isn't he just running through the division like diarrhea? why is he carefully selecting his opponents? why did he take like a decade to move up? seems to me the fans have more faith in Jon winning than Jon does.

 

[loisestrad]

It doesn't really matter, does it? Jones is obviously out of his prime, and Tom is either in his prime or hasn't entered it, who knows, he doesn't fight much, hasn't defended his (interim)title

Jones certainly did better against their one common opponent.

I hope for Tom he comes back from his eye injury to at least be able to live a normal life, and I hope too that he's gonna rematch Gane sometime next year. Would probably be fight of the year, anticipation wise.
For now, Jones is so far ahead of Tom that it doesn't really make any sense to try to put down Jones by saying: "Tom would surely have beat him".That just comes across as haters speech.

 

[Söze Aldo]

Yes I think he still beats Jon Jones. We will just have to wait and see what happens now.

It's never going to happen. If Tom had beat Gane resoundingly and Dana was more open to Jones to fight at the White House, maybe it'd still had have a chance there, UK vs US too. Now, it's never happening 100%.

 

[TheBulge]

Let me tell you something. Tom Aspinall would not even be in the top 5 best opponents Jon Jones has beaten on his resume. He's got a hard 1-2 and he's a big, athletic HW and there is nothing else special about him.

It tells you how far gone Jones is from his prime. He has 10 ways to beat Tom and he's still at risk of getting clipped due to his age and wear and tear. I still think Jones would win but could still lose, it's a crazy sport.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

It's clear Tom was working on his Jon Jones defense. Refusing to continue after an eye poke is how you take away Jon's greatest strength. Jon would actually have to fight without fouls for once (I would have said "fight fair," but ya know.. the PED's)

 

[Thy]

maybe. But no point in thinking about it since that fight will never happen.

 

[Trabaho]

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Would Tom ever get a questionable decision vs Reyes ? MMA math goes many ways. People forgot what MMA math was, or you´re new to Sherdog.

 

[The_Renaissance]

No but I never did anyway. I fucking hate Jones but still.

 

[fendertach]

It doesn't really matter, does it? Jones is obviously out of his prime, and Tom is either in his prime or hasn't entered it, who knows, he doesn't fight much, hasn't defended his (interim)title

Jones certainly did better against their one common opponent.

I hope for Tom he comes back from his eye injury to at least be able to live a normal life, and I hope too that he's gonna rematch Gane sometime next year. Would probably be fight of the year, anticipation wise.
For now, Jones is so far ahead of Tom that it doesn't really make any sense to try to put down Jones by saying: "Tom would surely have beat him".That just comes across as haters speech.

Tom is like 32. He's got another couple years left then it's all downhill from there. Hopefully it's enough time to surpass Jones 17 title wins.

 

[DanaWhitesButler]

Tom is like 32. He's got another couple years left then it's all downhill from there. Hopefully it's enough time to surpass Jones 17 title wins.

Those fights happened at LHW and don't mean shit at HW. Tom already passed Jon's accomplishments at HW before he was even champ.

 

[Alpha_T83]

It's never going to happen. If Tom had beat Gane resoundingly and Dana was more open to Jones to fight at the White House, maybe it'd still had have a chance there, UK vs US too. Now, it's never happening 100%.

Oh I don't think the fight will happen. I just still think Tom beats Jones if they were to fight.

But I agree with you that that ship has probably sailed.

 

[cmw43]

Tom would get taken down eventually and then subbed. Bones is a lot stronger at HW, and hasn't taken much of a beating in MMA aside from the first Gus fight.

Subbed? Jones subbed Gane who's BJJ sucked but he went 75 straight minutes at LHW against Anthony Smith, Reyes and Santos without finishing anyone.

If he beat Tom i think its more likely to be a decision. Toms pretty dangerous on the ground himself look at how he walked through Volkov.

 

[mangokush]

The Tom who showed up against Gane would have been fraud checked by Jones easily

Would have been a waste of time for Jones to take that fight

Tom looked sloppy out there, was too tense and winging shots, couldn't even get Gane to the ground with that poor panic TD attempt while he was fresh

While Gane was relaxed and was starting to get into a flowy state, could have been a UD loss for Tom before the accidental eyepoke

 

[Pequeño Corey]

I honestly wouldn't pick anyone on entire UFC roster to beat Jones, its much easier said than done. This is a guy thats never ever been rocked or dropped, let alone knocked out, and thats incredible for fighting at LHW for so long and now HW, to have like 17 UFC title fights and never even been dropped in those weightclasses is unreal.

Jones skill level and talent is the best, I know most people hate him and it makes them think guys like Tom or Gane or Francis would just 1 punch KO him easily, but they aren't thinking clearly. Jones is so tricky and hard to land flush on, it would be even harder for big lumps like that to land, Jones will see it coming a mile off and kick them right in the gut, and next time would level change, I know what Jones is like, I seen it so often. Maybe I'm wrong and they would beat Jones but I would need to see it to believe it. I just feel like they won't land much on him.

Mr. Newman is wise and sage like.

Jon is literally the best mixed martial artist of all time, and his wake of destruction without a single defeat is unlike anything we have ever seen. This is a man who finished a fight with his toe twisted off and hanging by a thread.

Tom would wilt and succumb like all the rest.

Haters can suck a fat yule log and cry themselves to sleep into their penis shaped pillows while they fantasize about neckbeards in bathtubs. The best fighter of all time is an American named Jon "Bones" Jones.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Mr. Newman is wise and sage like.

Jon is literally the best mixed martial artist of all time, and his wake of destruction without a single defeat is unlike anything we have ever seen. This is a man who finished a fight with his toe twisted off and hanging by a thread.

Tom would wilt and succumb like all the rest.

Haters can suck a fat yule log and cry themselves to sleep into their penis shaped pillows while they fantasize about neckbeards in bathtubs. The best fighter of all time is an American named Jon "Bones" Jones.

Very true, totally agree with everything you said. The thing about Jones is he is very dynamic, and HWs just aren't dynamic. Jones has great wrestling, submissions, ground 'n' pound, and good striking, plus his fight IQ, chin and cardio are all good. You see guys like Gane and Francis just aren't dynamic, they do 1 thing very well and thats about it, same goes for most UFC HWs, they do 1 thing very well and not much else.

I seen so many people saying Francis would knock Jones out cold 1st round, but to me its ridiculous talk, they are talking like Jones is just gonna let Francis hit him lol. Francis big guy loading up and loading up and loading up on every punch.. Jones would clown him, he won't land unless he sets it up brilliantly, you ain't just gonna load up and hit Jones flush, he is far too smart and skilled for it.

 

[krelianx]

Jones is getting old. If his legs and back are not in prime condition for wrestling he will be in trouble.

 

[prime_lobov]

The sad reality is that Tom never stood a chance against Jones. All the Jones haters latched onto Tom as the guy who would beat Jon, but there is nothing to suggest Tom is on Jon’s level. He’s still the best example that the Jones haters have, though, because the fight will never happen. People can pretend forever that Tom is somehow Jon’s kryptonite because they can never truly be proven wrong.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

I honestly wouldn't pick anyone on entire UFC roster to beat Jones, its much easier said than done. This is a guy thats never ever been rocked or dropped, let alone knocked out, and thats incredible for fighting at LHW for so long and now HW, to have like 17 UFC title fights and never even been dropped in those weightclasses is unreal.

Jones skill level and talent is the best, I know most people hate him and it makes them think guys like Tom or Gane or Francis would just 1 punch KO him easily, but they aren't thinking clearly. Jones is so tricky and hard to land flush on, it would be even harder for big lumps like that to land, Jones will see it coming a mile off and kick them right in the gut, and next time would level change, I know what Jones is like, I seen it so often. Maybe I'm wrong and they would beat Jones but I would need to see it to believe it. I just feel like they won't land much on him.

The funny thing is whether you or I or any one on Sherdog thinks Jon wins or Tom wins, Jon clearly thought it was far too risky. If it was such an easy fight Jon would have Unified and put himself in a position of being the Undisputed HW Champion. He would also have been in position to fight another perfect style match up in Alex at the WH or any other card. As it stands Jon has left a huge bag of money for 2 easy fights. Makes no sense. Obviously Jon wasn't very confident.