Do you still consider Jones a "paper" UFC HW champion?

[MarioLemieux]

I mean cherry picking easy stylistic matchups (Gane) or 8th ranked 42 year olds (Stipe) instead of facing the defending intermin champion is pretty much the definition of being a paper champion so I would like to here some valid counter arguments otherwise.

He is a textbook definition of a paper champion.

And to give Jon credit, he looked better against Stipe than I thought he would and he no doubt has the best resume in MMA.

 

[NextGen]

Until he fights Aspinall, he will never be taken seriously as a HW champ. That's the reality.

Handpicking a 42-year-old retired opponent adds nothing to his legacy or HW credentials.

 

[HHJ]

Until he fights Aspinall, he will never be taken seriously as a HW champ. That's the reality.

Handpicking a 42-year-old retired opponent adds nothing to his legacy or HW credentials.

This.

He didnt beat the champ to get it and is avoiding fighting the interim champ, or any other contenders for that matter.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

No because he doesn't hurt my feelings

 

[Fedorgasm]

Absolutely he's a paper champ.

Ducked Ngannou, ducked Aspinall, called out an old retired fighter that was completely irrelevant.

There was literally NO ONE that was calling for Stipe to come back.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Absolutely lol. The HW division is trash and Tom Aspinall hype is crazy these days but Tom is willing to fight everyone. If you are carefully cherry-picking your opponents, you aren't the real champion

 

[HatKick]

Of course. He's ducked the two best HWs. He's the #1 contender is what he really is.

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

The whole thing is a bad joke, what a waste of time.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

Nope you just have to defend it at least one time to avoid that title.. imo

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Gane is a higher-ranked win than anyone on Tom's resume

 

[HHJ]

Gane is a higher-ranked win than anyone on Tom's resume

Gane is ducking Tom also.

 

[BlackNathan]

I don't consider Jones a legitimate champ at all, on the other hand I don't blame him for cherry picking. He literally did exactly what GSP did to get the title, except maybe we get a couple extra fights. He's been in the game a long time and can do what he wants. This is his retirement tour.

 

[Kung Fu Kowboy]

I never did...

 

[SpedDaddyV]

Until he fights Aspinall, he will never be taken seriously as a HW champ. That's the reality.

Handpicking a 42-year-old retired opponent adds nothing to his legacy or HW credentials.

He beat Gane, which is better than any win Tom has.

Tom's best win is a drunk brawl against a guy who just lost to Volkov. He has never been tested and is giving Shane Carwin vibes in how overrated he has become.

He is a fat british striker with no wrestling background. Joe Rogan and Michael Bisping love saying how fast he is and he is all the sudden a terminator. It is laughable how hard the new up and comers to dethrone Jones get touted.

Jones cherry picks one fight in Stipe, I think it was deserved. Jones has been dominating since George W Bush was president.

 

[HHJ]

He beat Gane, which is better than any win Tom has.

Tom's best win is a drunk brawl against a guy who just lost to Volkov. He has never been tested and is giving Shane Carwin vibes in how overrated he has become.

He is a fat british striker with no wrestling background. Joe Rogan and Michael Bisping love saying how fast he is and he is all the sudden a terminator. It is laughable how hard the new up and comers to dethrone Jones get touted.

Jones cherry picks one fight in Stipe, I think it was deserved. Jones has been dominating since George W Bush was president.

This is what we call a HATER.

Hatin ass hater, Gane is also ducking Tom.


and he gonna STAY ducking Tom probably until Tom is made undisputed champ or he ko's Jones for it. Funny you would call Tom fat but not Jones. Sure.

They love saying how fast he is because he IS fast. Not sure if you watch any fights.

 

[Thy]

nope. just a bad one who holds up the division

 

[muaythaibeast]

Gane is a higher-ranked win than anyone on Tom's resume

He isn't. Pavlovich was number 1 in the division when Tom beat him. Blaydes was also number 2 after only Tom as far as active heavyweights go.

 

[m249viking]

Tom is the HW Champ. Maybe Jones can get Couture out of retirement next.

 

[Royce Greasy]

I don't consider Jones a legitimate champ at all, on the other hand I don't blame him for cherry picking. He literally did exactly what GSP did to get the title, except maybe we get a couple extra fights. He's been in the game a long time and can do what he wants. This is his retirement tour.

Ah no he can do what he wants without the HW belt, that's the problem he wants to be considered the baddest man on the planet which the HW champ is but won't do the things you're supposed to do like fight the next best guy which is Tom and honor the rankings.

 

[muaythaibeast]

I'll give him his dues, he beat Gane, which at the time was the best fight available at heavyweight, which for me made him legit at the time, on a par with Jamal Hill after the Glover win.
18 months of inactivity, followed by a win over a guy who has no business competing certainly hasn't done anything for him though.