Do you still consider Jones a "paper" UFC HW champion?

I personally don't think fighting tom makes sense for jon. If Jon wins, that win won't age well. Stipe will age well given his resume. Yea he's older but I rarely see anyone who can look at this type of situation objectively and intelligently. There is just a way people talk about this stuff. For example, the same people hyping Tom now will criticize John after for taking the fight, of John wins easily.
 
I would think of and ufc HW champ for now as a paper champ because Francis left with the belt
 
I consider him winning the belt but I don’t really consider him the current champ, if that makes sense. Gane was a great win. But 2 years of inactivity followed by a defense against someone even more inactive then him coming off a loss.

It was a cool fight and all because of who they are, but we have a an interim champ that’s now defended his belt. That’s the real champ now.
 
Its hilarious seeing Jon "P4P" and we still don't even know if he's the best heavyweight.
 
You suck at seeing. Let's try reading.
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Frame by frame. Slow-motion with captions. At no point is Gane's right knee pinched for a heel hook while he falls. You go ahead and take this gif back to the coach you obviously don't have so he can applaud how good you are at spotting these things. I'll see you again when your brain is cured from it's rot, which will be never.

Have a nice life.


are you dumb? "trying to pierce through" is literally him having low fight iq and going for a heelhook when all he had to do was sit in guard

you literally proved my entire point LOL

Nobody is disputing Francis set him up, but ganes low fight iq is what made him take the bait??? How can you be this stupid
 
Jones a personal favourite, but it’s a manufactured title reign a bit
 
He's a legit champion, just outright ducking stiffer competition multiple times. Stipe and the UFC share partial blame on this.
 
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