Do we have incels here?

All the sherdoggers specifically hating on the attractive wmma fighters are likely incels
 
We all know who was going to bump this thread. We knew it coming in.
 
Tycho Brah said:
Uh, nope. But I'm curious to hear you explain how that could even make sense.
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Science bro. Unless your good looking and a girl finds you attractive but youe autist or social anxiety that is all that will ruin you with a girl typically at least to initial dating. Dick size ruins even good looking men in LTR hence so many men being open to being cucks or their women pushing for open relationships. Reddit and internet is FILLED with stories of women being the instigators of an open relationship!!! .

Oh and the idea that you saying a few words somehow will get adriana lima into your bed is insane.

Pickup is largely scam. And is rooted with anti science and anti red pill truths. Pickup also is dangerous just like porn because it is selling the idea to subhuman tier males that they can get any woman or deserve a woman out of their league.

For example. Never before in history could lower tier males and bums of society see the beauty and evolutionary excellence of a beautiful naked woman. But now with the DEVIL and porn you can and its making men angry and jealous and bringing to light what they are missing out on. This is making these men more desperate and unstable and since the west didnt tske the steps to prevent this tier of socirty growing. Well you get crazies and more men acting out or going to prison etc.

And in the philosophical sense. They dont deserve to see what they havent earned).

Likewise prostitution is also evil. And demonic. Its so anti nature and anti meriocratic in the physical and primal sense. Prostitution is centered around money and a sick society or a depraved and or desperate mind. There is a reason any true righteous religion takes issue with porn and prostitution.
 
Seaside said:
Science bro. Unless your good looking and a girl finds you attractive but youe autist or social anxiety that is all that will ruin you with a girl typically at least to initial dating. Dick size ruins even good looking men in LTR hence so many men being open to being cucks or their women pushing for open relationships. Reddit and internet is FILLED with stories of women being the instigators of an open relationship!!! .

Oh and the idea that you saying a few words somehow will get adriana lima into your bed is insane.

Pickup is largely scam. And is rooted with anti science and anti red pill truths. Pickup also is dangerous just like porn because it is selling the idea to subhuman tier males that they can get any woman or deserve a woman out of their league.

For example. Never before in history could lower tier males and bums of society see the beauty and evolutionary excellence of a beautiful naked woman. But now with the DEVIL and porn you can and its making men angry and jealous and bringing to light what they are missing out on. This is making these men more desperate and unstable and since the west didnt tske the steps to prevent this tier of socirty growing. Well you get crazies and more men acting out or going to prison etc.

And in the philosophical sense. They dont deserve to see what they havent earned).

Likewise prostitution is also evil. And demonic. Its so anti nature and anti meriocratic in the physical and primal sense. Prostitution is centered around money and a sick society or a depraved and or desperate mind. There is a reason any true righteous religion takes issue with porn and prostitution.
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Tbh I don't think you've spent enough time with pick-up to properly critique it. All your points are strawmen of bizarrely exteme claims that no one would ever believe.

Also, none of that is science. An awkward incel projection of science, maybe.

The thesis of pick-up is that greater success with women can be achieved via studying and practice - which didn't have to be true, but probably is to enough of a degree that most men could do significantly better with training.

The biggest issue, as @bad seed (where'd he go?) and I mentioned upthread, is that most of the claims of pick-up in support of the thesis (or central dogma, arguably) were generated by businesses looking to profit from the spread of that belief.

That's a fair criticism, I just don't think there's evidence to justify the strong conclusion that the whole thing is a fantasy.

To clarify my bias though, I benefited quite a bit from pick-up myself in the past.
 
What is the definition of incel exactly? Is it about men that don’t have sex or men that can’t get a relationship or both?
 
I don't recall I've ever met an incel in real life excluding school.

Even the quiet type of men you might see alone in a pub will have some degree of social skills/gameness with women.

There are guys I have seen on facebook I went to school with who were massive nerds with no social skills. The weird thing is most of them have not changed!
 
DeJulez said:
If an Incel saved his money, why not just get escorts?
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it goes against the incel sense of entitlement to da pussy. they think they shouldn't have to pay for it , it should be given to them.
 
Seaside said:
On another note Ryan gosling is good looking. But do you think facially he is on O Pry level or top tier instsgram and model men?

Gosling has symmetry. And pretty boy looks and eyes. And is white and tall. Doesnt have strong jaw etc and has to be a low body fat.
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Internet or not, grown men shouldn't be having these conversations.

People that have sex with women don't say these things.
Just doesnt happen.
 
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Well i've had dates before.(which i am grateful for) i don't mind being a virgin. I regret i missed out on having a long term relationship for say 4 years. So kinda incel
 
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