Do we have incels here?

[minute bull]

"Idle hands are the devil's workshop."​

- Sir Kenneth of Florini, 1389​

 

[riitzni]

lol is this even a question? The forum is an incel magnet.

You've got:

- meathead sport with plenty of sweaty muscley men to idolize/hate for being alphas

- dudes that wear shirts reading "I do alpha male shit"

- no girls allowed

- constant homoerotic worship of fighters

- lax bannings

- support for Trump/MAGA/women are evil lunatic fringe ideas

- strong Nazi and racist support

It's an incel breeding ground, minus the breeding of course.

 

[therealdope]

Surely there are three? Strawberry, vanilla and chocolate, all from the Neapolitan tubs.

Then again, mint is nice, same as coffee, honeycomb, bubblegum etc...

I was SMH. LMAO!

 

[therealdope]

So many things wrong with him starting with neopolitan isn’t a flavor but the three previous (does he even parsimony?) and ending in maple walnut.

I guess if you’re Brazilian you might think passionfruit is the apple of fruits but then he gets all ethnocentric with his denial of the greatness mocha chip and peppermint and all that jazz.

The guy was dead serious about Maple WAlnut. He's like, "Everyone knows that Maple Walnut is a staple ice cream flavor! What's wrong with you?".

Better yet, he was convinced the only reason Baskin robbins was in financial trouble is that they had 'too many flavors of ice cream!".

 

[mrsenor]

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

you sure make a lot of hilarious assumptions.

Yawn. Juat another boring liberal tgat doesn't stand for anything.

 

[bad seed]

Yawn. Juat another boring liberal tgat doesn't stand for anything.

says the guy who lives to meme.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

that's precisely why PUAH8 started- they were bitter former PUA students and realized these tactics dont work if youre ugly- despite the lies and marketing of these PUA coaches. This is also the beginning of the Red Pill movement when they had to accept the fact that gimmicky pickup tactics can not compensate for shitty genetics. All these movements are reactions to PUA and the failure of its teachings.

It's difficult for me to counter this because the PUA business always held up the circular victory conditions of "if you aren't winning you just aren't trying hard enough" instead of being properly self-critical.

However I do believe that the almost all men can be more successful than they start out with good PUA "tactics," and that the complainers tend to be low energy losers who fail at most difficult things they try to do.

The bottom of a shallow barrel, so to speak.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

USA's dirty little secret is that ultra right wing Christian conservatives are mirror images of ultra right wing Muslim conservatives. We have a real hate problem spreading here, and the people perpetuating it will never possess the self-analytical skills to understand they are behaving exactly like those "others" they hate in that other religion across the pond.

Honestly I was listening to season 2 of the podcast Serial the other day, about an American soldier who was held prisoner by the Taliban for 5 years, and in one episode he talks about the ridiculous questions some of the younger guys asked him about American culture. Assuming all the women are (literal) whores and that Americans are drunk and high all the time.

It made me wonder what kinds of equally stupid perceptions we have of them, though of course I'm inclined to think that ours are closer to the truth.

 

[minute bull]

though of course I'm inclined to think that ours are close to the truth.

That's the part that makes all sentiment the same.

 

[deadshot138]

Half of the war room and 80% of the video game section

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

That's the part that makes all sentiment the same.

Well it's not entirely sentiment, I just didn't want to weigh my post down with the actual reasons (especially in the apolitical subforum).

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Half of the war room and 80% of the video game section

Funny thing is most of the conservative guys in the WR are married and most of the libs are single.

 

[minute bull]

Well it's not entirely sentiment, I just didn't want to weigh my post down with the actual reasons (especially in the apolitical subforum).

It's my fault for leading you to believe I referred to the specifically political aspect when I was more commenting how most conversation gets reduced to debate rhetoric, ergo friction begetting conflict, on the presumption we are correct while they are less so. Our common selves take a wrongheaded approach of failing to even entertain disparate notions.

 

[JSN]

The guy was dead serious about Maple WAlnut. He's like, "Everyone knows that Maple Walnut is a staple ice cream flavor! What's wrong with you?".

Better yet, he was convinced the only reason Baskin robbins was in financial trouble is that they had 'too many flavors of ice cream!".

”twenty-six by my count!”

 

[deadshot138]

Funny thing is most of the conservative guys in the WR are married and most of the libs are single.

That’s because new wave feminism has killed marriage and the American family

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

the guys in the thread i made about raptor ranger trucks and were going off on tacoma bros.

 

[Seaside]

The current incel movement absolutely came out of PUA culture. There was a notorious forum called PUAH8 where bitter men discussed how futile PUA is if you're ugly. This evolved into a codified set of rules and lingo to quantify the parameters of attractiveness -canthal tilt, gonial angle, midface ratio, etc. (They have something called the fhwr coeffecient which measures the ratio of width to length of midface).
ex,

They can quantify why Sean O'Pry is attractive while Gosling is not:

as I was saying, this is the community that radicalized Elliot Rodger and why that site was eventually taken down. It has now returned in a milder form as lookism.net.

The incel community is a subset of this but they have accepted they will NEVER be genetically competitive and choose to lay down and rot instead of striving for hope and being dissapointed when it fails.

Here are some key differences.

1) A lot of people at lookism embrace darwinism and actually DONT want enforced monogamy. These may be a mix of incels who have swallowed the brutal pill about their looks and genetics and race etc. Or they are actually not incels and get off on this elitist (but true) eugenics type thinking. You dont have to be a scientist to realize that sexual selection and evolution has resulted in men being more disposable and a higher % of men not reproducing in history. The list is endless of why being a man is so tough. Here see my post below in the link. The really long one. In any case Incels want sex redistribution and ENFORCED monogamy. From me having lurked recrntly ive seen the opposite in posts and the enforced monogsmy types banned. Now it seems guys troll and post overly exagerrrated stuff on purpose like "you need 8x6 cock or rope" when in reality abd the admit and prove from stats really they mean 6x4.6 or that if you arent slightly above average in either face, and frame and body then rope. Then you get whole arguments about how slight below average face and or 5/10 average everywhere is worth it if your huge in the pants or are tall. Etc.

Soooo that kind of talk idk. It seems to make fun of incels and be AGAINST what psycho incels want. There are guys on Reddit who say that its good incels dont reproduce. And guys on lookism who realize beautiful men and women and high intelligence are the resulr of selective breeding aka incels not breeding.

2) Lookism has had many influxes of Bodybuilding and bodybuilding misc members. Many of those guys are NOT incel and are in fact jacked and shredded and many prove it between PM and private chats etc. On the MISC before it not uncommon to prove sexual conquests with pics or texts. Zyzz was on MISC befoee and proved his conquests. And its hard to act like guys with six packs are somehow lying.

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...as-i-see-police.3899479/page-9#post-148607351

Anytime I'm not currently getting laid I'm an Incel right? I mean I always want to be having sex. I'm not exactly sure of the definition. It should be included in your opener. I'm at work right now being an Incel. Life is good.

I think technically if you dont get approached or flirted with by women and you cant get decent matches on dating app. Then you incel.

But there is also a more liberal definition of it. In which case most men are incel since they dont get sex as much as they want or with the women they really desire. And have to settle for relationships or escorts.

 

[Seaside]

The current incel movement absolutely came out of PUA culture. There was a notorious forum called PUAH8 where bitter men discussed how futile PUA is if you're ugly. This evolved into a codified set of rules and lingo to quantify the parameters of attractiveness -canthal tilt, gonial angle, midface ratio, etc. (They have something called the fhwr coeffecient which measures the ratio of width to length of midface).
ex,

They can quantify why Sean O'Pry is attractive while Gosling is not:

as I was saying, this is the community that radicalized Elliot Rodger and why that site was eventually taken down. It has now returned in a milder form as lookism.net.

The incel community is a subset of this but they have accepted they will NEVER be genetically competitive and choose to lay down and rot instead of striving for hope and being dissapointed when it fails.

Im telling you some of the guys on there. A lot. Are like jock types who do grt laid or often esocrtcel and enjoy this type of dark humor. There are legit sociopaths on reddit to. And id argue irs cope to pretend they are all basement dwellers. It helps people sleep better. Just like pretending that many soldiers dont enjoy killimg. Which if you look at africa or middle east or some religkons and cukrure and ideology. Clearly isnt true.

On another note Ryan gosling is good looking. But do you think facially he is on O Pry level or top tier instsgram and model men?

Gosling has symmetry. And pretty boy looks and eyes. And is white and tall. Doesnt have strong jaw etc and has to be a low body fat.

I certainly agree that the current breed of incels grew out of PUA philosophy, but more as a dark offshoot than a direct lineage.

Pick-up was never about calculating facial ratios. It was about pressing buttons, and especially about how anyone remotely informed - regardless of whatever disadvantageous attributes - could do it with some degree of success.

(Otherwise it wouldn't be much of a business )

Pick up is a lie. Its been debunked.

because that's a Cope:

Cope is what you do to try to ‘fix’ your inceldom. You cannot be fixed, anything you attempt to improve is just a coping mechanism. This can include exercise (gymcels), career (richcels) or trying to look better (looksmaxing). None of these things work if you are a truecel (which is almost always referring to an ugly face or short frame — blamed on bad genetics). Coping mechanisms can also simply be staying alive. That’s a cope to many incels. Just staying alive.

One could argue that religion, philosophy and esoterics and secret societies are all cope. As is anything that tries to talk about or transcend the physical and material immediate self gratification world. As is money and power all cope for men to cover up for lacking good looks and physical superioeness.

Also everything you said is true. Im not incel nor are many guys who agree with your post. Gymcels and religioncels are a real thing as are careercels. Its so obvious.

 

[ToxicShocker]

It's my fault for leading you to believe I referred to the specifically political aspect when I was more commenting how most conversation gets reduced to debate rhetoric, ergo friction begetting conflict, on the presumption we are correct while they are less so. Our common selves take a wrongheaded approach of failing to even entertain disparate notions.