Do Aliens Exist?

I'm pretty sure they do somewhere. They haven't been to Earth though. There are 100 billion galaxies estimated right now, probably double that out there at least. Each galaxy contains hundreds of thousands of millions of stars. The mere fact that we are having this conversation shows us that complex life is possible. And there is no reason it would have only happened once. There is nothing so special about our solar system that makes it one in whatever number you get when you multiply 100 x 1,000 million x 100 billion.
 
BisexualMMA said:
I don't know how anyone can be arrogant enough to think that there isn't some form of life somewhere in the >100 billion galaxies in the observable universe.
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This is my thought process on the subject to a T. Way too much out there for there not to be other intelligent life.

I have a buddy that believes in evolution but doesn't believe in aliens. How can you believe in evolution only on Earth and not at all in an infinite galaxy? I actually find someone to be lacking in rational thought if they don't believe in aliens (In the galaxy, not that they've visited Earth).
 
Of course they exist, but they've never been to earth and the chances are they never will, it's too far.
 
I think they do. Somewhere in the vast expansive void, there has to be something other Than us. What it is, and what forms it takes, I don't know.
 
Drenalin said:
I got drunk at a party one time & passed out. When I woke up, I found out i was anally probed by aliens.

So yes aliens exist. I can verify.
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It must suck to travel thousands of light-years from your home planet destined to never see your family ever again just to see what is going on up inside a human's butt. Don't know why aliens are so into butts.
 
I'd bet on there being intelligent life in the observable universe, and probably our local group. The odds still have to be high for our galaxy, but then we get into the whole Fermi paradox business.

It is also my suspicion that microbial life is somewhere else within our solar system.
 
As I say in all of these threads, without knowing the exact scenario that resulted in life on earth there is no way to calculate the odds. For instance; if life started at the deep ocean vents then a deep ocean would be required as well as the vulcanism to sustain the vent.

There are billions and billions of stars but does a system need to be in an outer part of a galaxy where stars aren't so close together to avoid being vaporized by a quasar? Many of those star systems are binary or trinary star systems so planets would be in highly eccentric orbits with wildly variable radiation. Whether life can develop under those conditions is unknown.

We know at least one generation of stars had to die to produce the elements more complex than hydrogen. Probably several generations of various types of stars to produce the elements on Earth.

In my younger days I was certain there had to be lots of intelligent life in the universe. As the dangers of space were discovered it seemed more difficult but still very likely. As we found out more about how life on Earth came about and the various close calls, it seems less likely. It seemed to take a very particular chain of events for us to be here. Did that same series of events with the same timing happen anywhere else? Not likely. Can life develop under a different set of circumstances? Possibly but unknown.
 
I'd be far more surprised if they didn't. It's not even a second thought for me.

What I wonder, is how advanced some of them are. If another civilization is even a few thousand years ahead of us (a tiny, tiny, tiny amount of time, cosmically speaking) they almost certainly would have interstellar travel and technology we can't even fathom. We're not even done using fossil fuels and we're not far off from creating intelligence far beyond our own (A.I.).

Who knows what kind of life is out there too. It's fun and scary to think about.
 
Soda Popinsky said:
I'm pretty sure they do somewhere. They haven't been to Earth though. There are 100 billion galaxies estimated right now, probably double that out there at least. Each galaxy contains hundreds of thousands of millions of stars. The mere fact that we are having this conversation shows us that complex life is possible. And there is no reason it would have only happened once. There is nothing so special about our solar system that makes it one in whatever number you get when you multiply 100 x 1,000 million x 100 billion.
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1,000 million is a billion. ;)
 
We may soon come to realize reality is not what it seems, aliens are here and have always been.
 
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If you think about how crazy it is for Earth to have so many different forms of life, of course aliens exist. Only egomaniacs would think they are unique and so special.
 
MusterX said:
My gut feeling on it is the president and Congress don't know shit about it. Our government is compartmentalized to a huge degree and if the C.I.A. or the N.S.A., or the Pentagon wants to keep the data on U.F.O.'s secret then it will be secret even to Washington. We've seen it with lesser issues like the N.S.A. spying on everyone then Clapper lying to Congress about it. The various agencies have kept other much lesser secrets so they wouldn't hesitate to lock down something like this.

What do they know at the minimum? At the minimum I think declassified documents and public statements make clear that the governments of the world know the U.F.O. phenomenon is real and something is happening that is inexplicable. At the maximum knowledge end of the spectrum, who knows, that one is difficult to surmise. Some group of people, somewhere deeply embedded in the government probably know that they are intelligent beings either extraterrestrial or extradimensional.
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Well, they better not tell the current president or he'll most likely somehow offend the aliens, then we're all screwed since our technology is less advanced.
 
GSP_37 said:
Well, they better not tell the current president or he'll most likely somehow offend the aliens, then we're all screwed since our technology is less advanced.
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I don't think the president ever knows, that is the genius of keeping a secret like this. That way when the president is asked about U.F.O.'s, and they all are, then he can honestly say I haven't seen or heard a thing about it.
 
squeezewax said:
Of course they exist, but they've never been to earth and the chances are they never will, it's too far.
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No offense, but this is kinda like a guy before the full understanding of lift and the invention of the airplane, saying it's an impossibility to fly up into the air in ships. What seems like impossible boundaries and limitations in the present, often turn out to be conquerable hurdles.

But I do understand where you're coming from, because as it stands, even communication, in the form of sending out signals to the nearest star systems, is a feat in which we are burdened by the issues of time and space.

Just consider that there may be ways around this wall, and it's simply a matter of figuring them out.

A video you may find interesting:

 
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