Do Aliens Exist?

[Graves The Elder]

Aliens do NOT exist. It's all a lie and NASA are brainwashing the masses into believing that aliens exist so they can fake an alien invasion.

says the alien.
*watch out for this guy

 

[liljoe]

I've read Issac Asimov and watched Star Trek for years. I got very accustomed to believing that faster than light travel would happen. As I learned more about science and physics it became pretty clear it wasn't going to happen. I followed all of the theories that people have proposed. Until some actual progress at something higher than the subatomic level I'll remain very skeptical. There is no free lunch. You can't get speed without energy. You need the type of energy that stars produce over billions of years applied in a couple of years or minutes depending on which theory you want to follow.

People say we have come so far in the last few decades or centuries but much of what many point to as modern technology is, in reality, ancient technology. About the only truly new technology in the last century is atomic energy and we had to find out the dangers of using that the hard way. We haven't even been able to make a truly reusable space ship to go into earth orbit like 1950s movies portrayed. The amount of energy required to lift a space ship into orbit requires so much fuel that the tanks and engines that burn the fuel have to be left behind. If we could get it into orbit it would require even more fuel to slow it down to re-enter the atmosphere without burning up. It isn't a matter of technology, it's physics.

Yeah, the fuel question is the real killer. Getting to very fast speeds is not really the problem, it's all the fuel needed to get you going and then eventually cancelling out all your accumulated speed in order to stop.

 

[Fuzzybabyducks]

Aliens do NOT exist. It's all a lie and NASA are brainwashing the masses into believing that aliens exist so they can fake an alien invasion.

every time they say that a planet may have water I hide in my bunker.... I know whats coming.

The gif above shows a girl being the cause of the flood...

we all know a booty couldn't cause that... However The Government could

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

You haven't lived until your genitals have been probed by aliens and they've taken tons of semen samples from you.

 

[Codger]

I believe what he's saying, is that in your analogy you know that red is possible by virtue of pulling a red ball. So you know that the next ball in that bag you pull from has the possibility to be red, but that's it. You have to pull more in order to see what other colors are possible.

So wherever a similar bag (planet) exists within the vastness of space, you could reasonably assume that it's possible for a similar ball to be pulled from it (or as it pertains to the thread topic, that life might be there).

Yeah it wasn't really meant as a direct analogy but just an attempt to explain what someone else meant re: saying you can't use a sample size of one to calculate the probability.

But you're right, the fact that life exists on earth most certainly offers possibility it exists elsewhere. I think it does. My only argument in this thread, and it's a pretty pedantic one really, is that one cannot say how likely it is, or even that is likely at all, without knowing the probability that life happens to form when the conditions are right. I'm guessing it's a common enough progression of chemistry under certain conditions but that can only be a guess.

 

[Drake]

I find it beyond ignorant to not believe that there is some sort of other life out there considering how impossibly large space is.


Unless of course the sky & space are not real or something...

Spoiler

 

[Drake]

so they can fake an alien invasion.

Still waiting.

 

[BearGrounds]

I've read Issac Asimov and watched Star Trek for years. I got very accustomed to believing that faster than light travel would happen. As I learned more about science and physics it became pretty clear it wasn't going to happen. I followed all of the theories that people have proposed. Until some actual progress at something higher than the subatomic level I'll remain very skeptical. There is no free lunch. You can't get speed without energy. You need the type of energy that stars produce over billions of years applied in a couple of years or minutes depending on which theory you want to follow.

People say we have come so far in the last few decades or centuries but much of what many point to as modern technology is, in reality, ancient technology. About the only truly new technology in the last century is atomic energy and we had to find out the dangers of using that the hard way. We haven't even been able to make a truly reusable space ship to go into earth orbit like 1950s movies portrayed. The amount of energy required to lift a space ship into orbit requires so much fuel that the tanks and engines that burn the fuel have to be left behind. If we could get it into orbit it would require even more fuel to slow it down to re-enter the atmosphere without burning up. It isn't a matter of technology, it's physics.

Did you watch the video? From this post I get the impression you didn't, apologies if I'm wrong. But some of what you're concerned with I believe is covered (in the theoretical sense) in the video. At least the issue of fighting friction via propulsion is.

That aside, it's interesting that you mentioned ancient tech, as there are those that believe that ancient manuscripts contain technological secrets from past high civilizations that have operated here on Earth. And that those manuscripts have been tapped for this information by current human factions.

Hindus believed that their temples were built in the image of those of other worlds, again in the design being revealed by a diety. The classical work, Ramayana, tells of a "celestial chariot," a two-storyed vehicle with "many rooms and windows" which "roared like a lion" at launching, "issued a single-toned sound" and "blazed like red flames" as it raced through the air until finally it looked like 'a comet in the sky'.

Another source, the Mahabharata, says the vehicle was "activated by winged lightning." the Sanskrit work, Samarangana Sutradhara, contains a long description of the vehicle which in Veda works is referred to as vimana.

- Bruce Cathie, The Energy Grid

Oppenheimer was able to read Sanskrit, and some believe the ancient texts assisted Oppenheimer and the rest in creating the bomb. Here is his famous quoting of the Bhagavad Gita.



Now, to be clear, I don't necessarily subscribe to any of these beliefs above - in regards to ancient civilizations and the tech they developed - but I do find them interesting and consider them possible realities.