Elections DNC today in Chicago

[Rob Battisti]

They poll ahead of baptists, evangelicals, and black christians, off the top of my head. Where is your disagreement?

According to Pew in 2017, you’re wrong. Additionally, you’re cherry picking between identifying as Muslim and practicing as Muslim.

Lies, damned lies and statistics.

Muslims on a whole are against LGBT rights more than Christians.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Lol, the ones he specifically said he was NOT talking about?

"Look, a lot of people are unable to have kids for a variety of complicated and important reasons. There are good friends of mine who've struggled to find the right girl, find the right guy, there are people of course for biological reason, medical reasons who can't have children. The target of these remarks is not them, and it's important to point that out. There have always been people like that, who even though they would like to have kids, they are unable to have them. It is one thing to recognize that there are people who are unable have children through no fault of their own, but it's something else to build a political movement invested, theoretically, in the future of this country, when none of them have any physical commitment to the country".

This is where he originally said it, and it's incredibly creepy that youtube has been completely shitbombed with hundreds of clips of liberal raging about it with their own commentary talking over it and isolating 1 sentence at a time, and every single one intentionally omits where he specifically says that being unable to have children does not make someone anti-children, and is not who he's talking about when he says the democrats are an anti-children political movement.

Starts at 17:30

Ok?

 

[luckyshot]

The Pro Palestine Crowd has made statements about ambushing

They are not strategic thinkers. How do they think it's going to go for Palestine if Bibi's BFF gets elected?

 

[Spounman]

I wonder how many estrogen filled anuntqueefa guys will get arrested there this week?

LMAO

 

[DoctorTaco]

I’m happy for you. I love Austin but unfortunately I may need to give it up.

Move to Portland. I’ll get you a hook up on tattoos and hair dye. You can find yourself a nice vegan bike messenger who dances at night and settle in together with your small dogs you take hiking on the weekends

 

[White Whale]

The West should ban freedom of expression even when it doesn't hurt other people?

Why would they leave Iran if they were true "muslims", isn't Iran like a pretty hardcore Islamic Regime (post-revolution).

They oppose Islam and say it's not compatible with the west.

 

[irish_thug]

I did it because I hate children.

In that case I support your decision.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Move to Portland. I’ll get you a hook up on tattoos and hair dye. You can find yourself a nice vegan bike messenger who dances at night and settle in together with your small dogs you take hiking on the weekends

My god you couldn’t pay me to live there!

 

[Streeter]

Muslim Americans are more pro LGBT then a lot of other demographics, including Evangelicals at this point. Never understood why people try and argue otherwise.

Possibly because as a religion they are definitley NOT . You understand in sharia law what Islam takes seriously its legal and Celebrated even to kill a gay person right? Yes American Muslims are more tolerant - because they have be.

 

[Other]

In that case I support your decision.

 

[avenue94]

According to Pew in 2017, you’re wrong. Additionally, you’re cherry picking between identifying as Muslim and practicing as Muslim.

Lies, damned lies and statistics.

Muslims on a whole are against LGBT rights more than Christians.

Why would I distinguish between identifying as a Muslim and practicing as a Muslim when I wouldn't do the same for any other religious group? You're just trying to find an way to manipulate the polling to favor your preconceived notions.

Muslim Americans poll ahead of white evangelicals, Hispanic protestants and Jehovah's Witness (aka "many Christian groups") for LGBT protections and they poll ahead of sevearl more Christian denominations when it comes to religious refusals of service (another hobby horse for the Christian right and Republican party).

When it comes to gay marriage, they support it more than Mormons, Hispanic protestants, evangelicals and Jehovah's Witnesses, and they're effectively tied with a lot of other smaller protestant denominations. All in all, there's next to no evidence that Muslim Americans by and large are particularly hostile to gay Americans and issues, and there's plenty of evidence that shows them being more supportive than many Christian groups.

More Acceptance but Growing Polarization on LGBTQ Rights: Findings From the 2022 American Values Atlas

www.prri.org

Spoiler

 

[idrankyourbeer]

so, any riots yet?

 

[Bia]

it was fiery but mostly peaceful.

accurate

 

[Mr Holmes]

 

[GoldenWolf87]

The population as a whole. The widespread religious obsession with gay marriage or LGBT issues is a Christian evangelical and Baptist thing not really found in other faith groups in the US. This has been the case for several years at least in national surveys.

Was this your imaginary black friend or just your imaginary Muslim friends? Islam is a diverse religion with many competing interpretations of political issues like LGBT rights. Across the board in the US, Muslim Americans are largely supportive of gay rights and issues, more than many Christian populations.

Was this your imaginary black friend or just your imaginary Muslim friends? Islam is a diverse religion with many competing interpretations of political issues like LGBT rights.

You do realize Gays/LGBTs are been killed in Saudi Arabia right?

A 17/18 two years ago was killed by the Saudis Religious police.

 

[avenue94]

Possibly because as a religion they are definitley NOT . You understand in sharia law what Islam takes seriously its legal and Celebrated even to kill a gay person right? Yes American Muslims are more tolerant - because they have be.

Have you read the Old Testament? Islam as a religion is extremely diverse. There is also a difference between what Muslims see as Sharia law (most of it is pretty boring to be honest and mundane) vs the scary headlines and most aggressive interpretations of it.

Citing random passages or jurisprudence from scholars that may be mainstream or not isn't particularly useful when we can literally just look at polling data to see how people feel, instead of assuming based off of random Twitter rage bait.

 

[avenue94]

You do realize Gays/LGBTs are been killed in Saudi Arabia right?

A 17/18 two years ago was killed by the Saudis Religious police.

And what does that have to do with Muslim Americans when we're discussing American politics. I hate to break it to you, but the billion plus Muslims in the world believe vastly different things and have vastly different opinion on hot button issues. It's useless to claim that all Muslims believe X or Y when it comes to most political issues.

 

[Streeter]

Have you read the Old Testament? Islam as a religion is extremely diverse. There is also a difference between what Muslims see as Sharia law (most of it is pretty boring to be honest and mundane) vs the scary headlines and most aggressive interpretations of it.

Citing random passages or jurisprudence from scholars that may be mainstream or not isn't particularly useful when we can literally just look at polling data to see how people feel, instead of assuming based off of random Twitter rage bait.

I have read most of the old testament . No Jewish people I know or have heard of still act out the punishments in Deuteronomy and Numbers nor is it Legal in Israel.

Im sure it is diverse and I'm sure there are .any that don't think it's right - it's still an offense punishable by death in those countries via sharia law.

i didnt cite anything I ststed a fact.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/

What do all those countries have in common?

 

[MetalGearTrump]

It's ok because they needed to get out their anger from the overdose death of saint george of fentanyl

(Peace be upon him)

 

[Jacket time]