News Dmitry Bivol vs David Benavidez being finalized for summer 2025

Who wins?


  • Total voters
    31
He doesn't throw as many body punches, and does not have his range or speed, but he has better body work? You just say random stuff.
Canelo has actually stopped and slowed down multiple high level opponents to the body. Remember when your boy couldn't put away Plant? Canelo did and his body attack is what slowed him to a crawl. Beterbiev also has much more potent body work due to his punching power. In particular his straight right hand to the body that he tore Gvozdyk up with. He also stopped Browne to the body with a hook if I recall. Bivol withstood it.
 
Plant and Andrades footwork were way better thsn Davids and he busted up their bodies. The idea David wont land a single body shot on Bivol just might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard on here. Well done.



Plant and Andrade can’t hold a candle to Bivol in terms of footwork or distance management.

Lol at this guy bringing up Plant to make a point. Watch Canelo vs Plant and Canelo vs Bivol and tell me we’re watching the same fight.
 
This is a bad take.

90% of Bivol’s opponents were taller than him. Height was never a factor because Bivol excels at distance control.

Bivol is open to the body but Benavidez will not land a single shot there because Bivol’s footwork is levels above his.

Benavidez only lets his hands go if he can trap his opponent, which won’t be possible. Bivol’s work rate will be significantly higher throughout the fight and no rounds will be taken off.

It may be a bad take, it may not be. That's why we watch the fights and talk the shit!

All I can say is boxing is in a good place right now, and if it keeps up the rhythm we'll have a lot more to discuss here.
 
Canelo has actually stopped and slowed down multiple high level opponents to the body. Remember when your boy couldn't put away Plant? Canelo did and his body attack is what slowed him to a crawl. Beterbiev also has much more potent body work due to his punching power. In particular his straight right hand to the body that he tore Gvozdyk up with. He also stopped Browne to the body with a hook if I recall. Bivol withstood it.

Beterbiev is a head hunter he does not work the body as much as Benavidez. Canelo stopped high level opponents to the body? Who? Liam Smith and Rocky Fielding? lul.

David is faster and has much longer arms than Canelo and throws far more punches, so using Canelo as the benchmark in getting to Bivols body is just dumb.
 
Last edited:
Beterbiev is a head hunter he does not work the body as much as Benavidez. Canelo stipped high level opponents to the body? Who? Liam Smith and Rocky Fielding? lul.

David is faster and has much longer arms than Canelo and throws far more punches, so using Canelo as the benchmark in getting to Bivols body is just dumb.
No. Beterbiev has been breaking guys down for years by going to the body. Mixing up body & head. You're acting as if Bivol is easy to hit. Or did you forget that statistically Bivol is the least hit fighter in boxing? That may no longer be true after the Beterbiev fights but he's never been easy to hit especially cleanly. That's why all-time defensive greats like Pernell Whitaker were giving him props for his defense. "David throws more punches" meaning he'll leave more openings so Bivol will have more countering opportunities. Brilliant.
 
Rubbish. Bivol is good but he isn't that amazing, pretty basic. Andrade and Plant are both very slick and fast and broke them down. Bivol will be no different.
Pretty convenient to quote me while leaving out the part the disproves what you’re trying to say.

Canelo fought both Plant a Bivol in a span of 6 months. Canelo constantly trapped Plant against the ropes and beat the shit out of him. He could never trap Bivol and was outboxed all night. Yet somehow you think Plant and Bivol are comparable. Maybe stop sniffing glue.
 
@Roids if this fight does happen next then let's bet on it. There's no guarantee that it will because it wasn't the WBC's turn to order a mandatory. Anyhow, I'll take Bivol & Beterbiev over Benavidez any day of the week. Even if he did somehow manage to beat one of them he isn't beating both.
 
Pretty convenient to quote me while leaving out the part the disproves what you’re trying to say.

Canelo fought both Plant a Bivol in a span of 6 months. Canelo constantly trapped Plant against the ropes and beat the shit out of him. He could never trap Bivol and was outboxed all night. Yet somehow you think Plant and Bivol are comparable. Maybe stop sniffing glue.

You did not realize Plant was happy to sit in the pocket and ropes vs Canelo a lot of the time and counter him from the philly shell. Against Benavidez he was scared shitless to let David get anywhere near him and just ran. He fought totally different against 2 totally different fighters.
 
Or did you forget that statistically Bivol is the least hit fighter in boxing?

And guess who is the second least hit fighter in boxing? Andrade...How did that work out for him against David again?
@Roids if this fight does happen next then let's bet on it. There's no guarantee that it will because it wasn't the WBC's turn to order a mandatory. Anyhow, I'll take Bivol & Beterbiev over Benavidez any day of the week. Even if he did somehow manage to beat one of them he isn't beating both.
No problem. I am not very confident Bivol will fight him though sadly. I see red flags already. Talks of another rematch with Beterbiev, then talks of David being last on the rotation blah blah. Seems it will take years again. Defending undisputed is silly, because you have to waste time fighting mando bums. He should not do that and fight the top contender in Benavidez. Don't hide behind Callum Smith.
 
And guess who is the second least hit fighter in boxing? Andrade...How did that work out for him against David again?

No problem. I am not very confident Bivol will fight him though sadly. I see red flags already. Talks of another rematch with Beterbiev, then talks of David being last on the rotation blah blah. Seems it will take years again. Defending undisputed is silly, because you have to waste time fighting mando bums. He should not do that and fight the top contender in Benavidez. Don't hide behind Callum Smith.
Except Andrade never fought anyone. Bivol has. That's the fundamental difference. Their level of opposition couldn't be more different. Benavidez has yet to face a single great fighter much less beat one. Bivol has beaten two of them and has multiple future HOFers on his resume. But you think that guy will duck Benavidez? LOL. If he chooses to fight Beterbiev in a trilogy it's to conclude their rivalry. Not because Benavidez is such a threat that he's hiding from him. Remember that your guy has yet to even beat a Top 5 light heavyweight.
 
Ye ye heard it all before. Why would Canelo be scared of Benavidez if he fought GGG and Bivol. Remember that funny one? Yawn. I am not as confident he ducks like I was with Canelo but I'm sceptical at the moment. After 3 tough fights with Beterbiev you think he will fight someone like Benavidez next? He will want a soft touch etc.
 
Ye ye heard it all before. Why would Canelo be scared of Benavidez if he fought GGG and Bivol. Remember that funny one? Yawn. I am not as confident he ducks like I was with Canelo but I'm sceptical at the moment. After 3 tough fights with Beterbiev you think he will fight someone like Benavidez next? He will want a soft touch etc.
You're missing the point. How would Benavidez actually perform against a genuinely great fighter? We've never seen him in there with one regardless of whatever the reason was. Then you assume that Bivol will fight Beterbiev next and that the fight will be tough. It hasn't even happened yet lol. Benavidez's opposition hasn't exactly been stellar. The guys he's fought at light heavyweight weren't elite level either. Gvozdyk was clearly past his best and had already been knocked out (retired) by Beterbiev and Morrell wasn't even a proven light heavyweight. Given these facts how are you so confident of what Benavidez can do at this new weight? He's just going to waltz in and beat two hall-of-famers that've been undisputed at the weight? Yeah, I don't think so.
 
You're missing the point. How would Benavidez actually perform against a genuinely great fighter? We've never seen him in there with one regardless of whatever the reason was. Then you assume that Bivol will fight Beterbiev next and that the fight will be tough. It hasn't even happened yet lol. Benavidez's opposition hasn't exactly been stellar. The guys he's fought at light heavyweight weren't elite level either. Gvozdyk was clearly past his best and had already been knocked out (retired) by Beterbiev and Morrell wasn't even a proven light heavyweight. Given these facts how are you so confident of what Benavidez can do at this new weight? He's just going to waltz in and beat two hall-of-famers that've been undisputed at the weight? Yeah, I don't think so.

The problem is the haters are minimising his 2 wins at LHW. Just assuming Gvozdyk was shot because he was 37, despite him coming in the best physical shape ever in his career and only having 20 pro fights he was a young 37. Yet when Inoue beats up a 40 year old Donaire it proves he a p4p fighter. The double standards are hilarious. No evidence Gvozdyk was well past it, at all. Morrell has been rated as a special talent for years, there are people on this forum willing to bet their accounts he would stop Benavidez, yet apparently now when Benavidez beats him, Morrell was just a prospect.

I think Morrell could beat anyone at LHW including Bivol and Beterbiev, and so could Gvozdyk. The fact Benavidez beat them comfortably in his first 2 fights in the division proves how good he is. And he is getting better with each fight. Bam had a barn burner with sunny edwards and everyone went off their heads, yet next fight Sunny gets destroyed by someone with 8 fights. The bias against Benavidez is really weird.

His last 4 wins, have been Plant, Andrade, Gvozdyk and Morrell. Apart from Usyk, I can't think of a better run in the sport recently. Can you?
 
The problem is the haters are minimising his 2 wins at LHW. Just assuming Gvozdyk was shot because he was 37, despite him coming in the best physical shape ever in his career and only having 20 pro fights he was a young 37. Yet when Inoue beats up a 40 year old Donaire it proves he a p4p fighter. The double standards are hilarious. No evidence Gvozdyk was well past it, at all. Morrell has been rated as a special talent for years, there are people on this forum willing to bet their accounts he would stop Benavidez, yet apparently now when Benavidez beats him, Morrell was just a prospect.

I think Morrell could beat anyone at LHW including Bivol and Beterbiev, and so could Gvozdyk. The fact Benavidez beat them comfortably in his first 2 fights in the division proves how good he is. And he is getting better with each fight. Bam had a barn burner with sunny edwards and everyone went off their heads, yet next fight Sunny gets destroyed by someone with 8 fights. The bias against Benavidez is really weird.

His last 4 wins, have been Plant, Andrade, Gvozdyk and Morrell. Apart from Usyk, I can't think of a better run in the sport recently. Can you?
I never said Gvozdyk was shot I said he was past his best. Washed up to some extent. He hadn't beaten a top light heavyweight in YEARS. Many years. Morrell is talented but unproven at light heavyweight. He'd previously beaten a guy that Beterbiev had already stopped and Benavidez beat another guy that Beterbiev had already stopped. You think Gvozdyk could beat anyone at LHW? Yeah, except Beterbiev already wrecked him in his prime. The shit you say is so ridiculous. If Benavidez's recent run has been so great then he'd be rated on every credible P4P list and highly. Wouldn't he? Only he's not.
 
And guess who is the second least hit fighter in boxing? Andrade...How did that work out for him against David again?
Bivol isn't the least hit boxer, nor is Andrade the second least.

Shakur is #1, Bivol is #2 and Andrade is #7.

 
Bivol isn't the least hit boxer, nor is Andrade the second least.

Shakur is #1, Bivol is #2 and Andrade is #7.

Apparently not anymore but Bivol had been the least hit boxer for years up until he fought Beterbiev for the first time (October). Shakur hasn't fought any P4P talents yet while Bivol's fought two.

Stats-New.png
 
Apparently not anymore but Bivol had been the least hit boxer for years up until he fought Beterbiev for the first time (October). Shakur hasn't fought any P4P talents yet while Bivol's fought two.

Stats-New.png
That’s absolutely the thing, shakurs percentage is based on jobbers. I could be the best boxer in the world if I fought only little kids and one-legged, totally armless fighters.

What I genuinely don’t get is why people are acting like he’s so talented if only he’d simply test himself. He’s not! You have to PROVE in the real circumstances, can’t be the eye test against scrubs. I’m sorry, This thread is way too positive about Shakur, don’t defend this bum!!!! He’s gonna lose when he steps up. Can’t believe I saw him compared to Floyd, ridiculous. We know nothing about him.
 
That’s absolutely the thing, shakurs percentage is based on jobbers. I could be the best boxer in the world if I fought only little kids and one-legged, totally armless fighters.

What I genuinely don’t get is why people are acting like he’s so talented if only he’d simply test himself. He’s not! You have to PROVE in the real circumstances, can’t be the eye test against scrubs. I’m sorry, This thread is way too positive about Shakur, don’t defend this bum!!!! He’s gonna lose when he steps up. Can’t believe I saw him compared to Floyd, ridiculous. We know nothing about him.
Yeah. Back when Bivol was fighting lower level opposition he was sitting at around 11% or 12%. Shakur's currently at 14%. Once Shakur starts fighting better opposition he will get hit more. That's almost guaranteed.
 
Bivol isn't the least hit boxer, nor is Andrade the second least.

Lowest total opponent punches landed per round, Andrade is number 2. Shakur 1. Benavidez is top 5 in plus minus also just behind Bivol. Not bad for someone with poor defense.. lol. The top 10 in plus minus is all p4p fighters. David is in good company.
 
Back
Top