distance vs sprint?

[CaccApprentice]

Curious as to yalls personal experience for over all cardio capacity. Is it better to do set num of sprints or run for time.

 

[RemyR]

Personally I find sprints to be overall more helpful, however its good to run distance every now and then.

If your just starting out though I'd recommend getting used to running 1-2 miles 3 times a week to develop a good base. Once that becomes easy start mixing in sprints.

 

[SKizzit**]

Sprints easily. Distance running builds your aerobic endurance, which isn't worth a shit in combat sports. Sprinting builds your anaerobic endurance and that is what you need.

If your sprints get better then so will your distance and you don't even have to run that. You could run 10 miles a day and that still wound't be as beneficial as sprinting, jumping rope, sparring, burnouts on the bag or whatever. Anything where you don't depend on oxygen as your primary energy source for the excersise.

 

[DannyT]

Sprints easily. Distance running builds your aerobic endurance, which isn't worth a shit in combat sports. Sprinting builds your anaerobic endurance and that is what you need.

If your sprints get better then so will your distance and you don't even have to run that. You could run 10 miles a day and that still wound't be as beneficial as sprinting, jumping rope, sparring, burnouts on the bag or whatever. Anything where you don't depend on oxygen as your primary energy source for the excersise.

Sorry, have you read the 'solve your conditioning' thread?

 

[Steakeater**]

Are you training in martial arts? That can help produce aerobic capacity alone. If not, you need LSD

 

[Oblivian]

Sprints easily. Distance running builds your aerobic endurance, which isn't worth a shit in combat sports. Sprinting builds your anaerobic endurance and that is what you need.

If your sprints get better then so will your distance and you don't even have to run that. You could run 10 miles a day and that still wound't be as beneficial as sprinting, jumping rope, sparring, burnouts on the bag or whatever. Anything where you don't depend on oxygen as your primary energy source for the excersise.

I disagree. Training both aerobic and anaerobic is important.

 

[SKizzit**]

Most sports, including combat sports and pro football, are anaerobic in nature. Very few sports have you in a rhythmic and continuous pace for a long time. If you train anaerobic endurance, your aerobic endurance will increase greatly as well. The opposite is not true.

I have read the book "Fit to Fight" by Jason Feruggia. I know it doesn't make me an expert on the subject he but often reinforces the point that jogging long distances is a complete waste of time for combat athletes.

I'm not saying there is no place for distance running, but if you do that then make sure you have a good pace because that is more important than the distance. For example, if your running a track sprint the long sides and jog the curve, or keep a fast pace the entire time.

 

[Oblivian]

Most sports, including combat sports and pro football, are anaerobic in nature. Very few sports have you in a rhythmic and continuous pace for a long time. If you train anaerobic endurance, your aerobic endurance will increase greatly as well. The opposite is not true.

I have read the book "Fit to Fight" by Jason Feruggia. I know it doesn't make me an expert on the subject he but often reinforces the point that jogging long distances is a complete waste of time for combat athletes.

I'm not saying there is no place for distance running, but if you do that then make sure you have a good pace because that is more important than the distance. For example, if your running a track sprint the long sides and jog the curve, or keep a fast pace the entire time.

You need to establish a strong aerobic base as well. People that say focus on anaerobic and only anaerobic are wrong.

 

[Steakeater**]

Most sports, including combat sports and pro football, are anaerobic in nature. Very few sports have you in a rhythmic and continuous pace for a long time. If you train anaerobic endurance, your aerobic endurance will increase greatly as well. The opposite is not true.

I have read the book "Fit to Fight" by Jason Feruggia. I know it doesn't make me an expert on the subject he but often reinforces the point that jogging long distances is a complete waste of time for combat athletes.

I'm not saying there is no place for distance running, but if you do that then make sure you have a good pace because that is more important than the distance. For example, if your running a track sprint the long sides and jog the curve, or keep a fast pace the entire time.

Anything over 30 seconds use aerobic engine. Anything over 2 minutes or so is more aerobic than anaerobic.

So unless you are fighting for 10 seconds, you rely on aerobic engine.

 

[theBrookDweller]

do both...better to be overtrained than undertrained lol.

Bruce Lee did both. He ran 2 miles everyday on top of all the other stuff he did for endurance. From what I've read lsd is much better for overall lung and heart conditioning while sprinting or hiit is better for fat loss. I think that if you train for a combat sport then it will be good to do the sprints since most of the time the sport uses quick bursts of energy, but I have read that boxers run 8-9 miles every day turning training.

 

[CaccApprentice]

I agree with sprints. In high school r wrestling team barley ran long distance unless it was an Indian run or Sprint straight jog curves. We had some of the best cardio in the district.

 

[Steakeater**]

I agree with sprints. In high school r wrestling team barley ran long distance unless it was an Indian run or Sprint straight jog curves. We had some of the best cardio in the district.

wrestlers can train aerobic endurance because they put all those hours in grappling, so they may only need sprints. Thats why I asked ts if he trains.

A lot of people dont need LSD because they of the sheer volume they put in skill training and sparring

 

[DannyT]

wrestlers can train aerobic endurance because they put all those hours in grappling, so they may only need sprints. Thats why I asked ts if he trains.

A lot of people dont need LSD because they of the sheer volume they put in skill training and sparring

But things like sparring/pad work work the aerobic system though? Wouldn't it still be more anaerobic unless you actually control your HR like you would for LSD? (this is for discussion purposes - i want to learn more!)

 

[Juzie]

Definitely sprints, but distances is probably the better way to start out.

 

[Steakeater**]

But things like sparring/pad work work the aerobic system though? Wouldn't it still be more anaerobic unless you actually control your HR like you would for LSD? (this is for discussion purposes - i want to learn more!)

You cant control it tight without running with a hr monitor, but nobody can really stay 200+ bpm for over 2 minutes, or anaerobic zone for that matter.

20 minutes of high end aerobic zone 160+ bpm is absolute torture even for well trained people, how anybody can do a whole session staying anaerobic is impossible

 

[OnePiece]

Sprints easily. Distance running builds your aerobic endurance, which isn't worth a shit in combat sports. Sprinting builds your anaerobic endurance and that is what you need.

If your sprints get better then so will your distance and you don't even have to run that. You could run 10 miles a day and that still wound't be as beneficial as sprinting, jumping rope, sparring, burnouts on the bag or whatever. Anything where you don't depend on oxygen as your primary energy source for the excersise.

Aerobic endurance isn't worth shit?

It's important to create a strong aerobic base. Merely training anaerobically is idiotic. Last time I checked, fights could be 25 minutes long. Sure you could throw a bunch of punches and exert yourself for two rounds, but is are you gassed in the fourth? You need an aerobic base to be complete.

 

[SKizzit**]

Anything over 30 seconds use aerobic engine. Anything over 2 minutes or so is more aerobic than anaerobic.

So unless you are fighting for 10 seconds, you rely on aerobic engine.

You are so wrong its not even funny, unless the fight consists of circling and 1 strike thrown every so often.

I don't think a lot of you realize that training anaerobic endurance will also improve your aerobic endurance. Let me get some quotes real quick...

 

[BayAreaGuy]

hill sprints > sprints >>> distance


I've been running distance for years on the treadmill, and lately I've been running outside on both flat surface and up hills....there's no comparison whatsoever, sprints and hill sprints will give you cardio. It also burns fat better and all that stuff, and preserves muscle.

look at sprinters vs marathoners

 

[Steakeater**]

You are so wrong its not even funny, unless the fight consists of circling and 1 strike thrown every so often.

I don't think a lot of you realize that training anaerobic endurance will also improve your aerobic endurance. Let me get some quotes real quick...

Its the other way around. Anaerobic endurance is using maximum aerobic engine.

 

[Steakeater**]

hill sprints > sprints >>> distance


I've been running distance for years on the treadmill, and lately I've been running outside on both flat surface and up hills....there's no comparison whatsoever, sprints and hill sprints will give you cardio. It also burns fat better and all that stuff, and preserves muscle.

look at sprinters vs marathoners

Sprinters vs. Marathoners | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald

distance is also better for most people at burning fat, given recovery processes