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Dirtiest Tactic Seen in Modern UFC?

Mendes vs Conor gouging his cut was pretty grotesque and low.

Jones eye poking and bragging about it shamelessly.

Not illegal but Yoel leaping into the air and smashing down as hard as he could on Roberts bad knee (After Yoel saw and learned it was hurt) was pretty jarring and ruthless.

Hendo’s flying elbow and any other ott punishment a already ko’d fighter takes is pretty nasty.
 
The glove grabbed was missed, you can’t give Romeo more time for a missed infraction.

Had the glove grab been caught, it probably should have been a DQ for Romeo

Romeo getting extra time to sit after getting rocked was BS

BJM blames it on the cut guy tho.
 
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This one was courtesy of Li Jingliang.
 
SashaIsABot said:
Regarding the arm twist, I don't know. Here, it is so sudden and forceful, the goal is not getting a tap, but doing damage, like oblique kicks. I'm not saying this is wrong, just that it's a bit different than submissions. You're right to say that it all comes down to moral questions, anyway.
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I understand their point but injuries happen from submissions as well. Lots of arm breaks happen. It's fighting, the point is to hurt the other opponent with your techniques to either get them to submit or get put out by strikes/submissions. They can still tap standing up so if the technique hurts or does damage they can physically or verbally tap. Doing those moves in a fight I don't see anything wrong with it. Doing it in training, yes that shouldn't be done in training. Those are moves reserved for actual fights because of the damage they can inflict. People know what they sign up for in a fight. If people are trying to break your arms and legs with submissions, they shouldn't say anything about another fighter trying to do the same with strikes.
 
GordonMMARamsey said:
Obviously you should only throw strikes that wont hurt your opponent. Yeah, his opponents are trying to do the same thing to him - but that doesn't mean he actually has to try to hurt the other guy.
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LOL exactly this haha
 
FIghtxIQ said:
I understand their point but injuries happen from submissions as well. Lots of arm breaks happen. It's fighting, the point is to hurt the other opponent with your techniques to either get them to submit or get put out by strikes/submissions. They can still tap standing up so if the technique hurts or does damage they can physically or verbally tap. Doing those moves in a fight I don't see anything wrong with it. Doing it in training, yes that shouldn't be done in training. Those are moves reserved for actual fights because of the damage they can inflict. People know what they sign up for in a fight. If people are trying to break your arms and legs with submissions, they shouldn't say anything about another fighter trying to do the same with strikes.
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Yeah, you're right. Maybe it would be a little hypocritical to act all shocked by the risk of injury when it is explicitly one way to win a fight, and we are all here to see fights.
I guess the line is drawn at moves that have a somewhat high probability to kill or permanently disable the opponent, such as strikes on the vertebral column, throat, eyes.

It seems that one category of banned moves are the ones that can cause substantial damage or pain, and which are way too easy to do , like small joint manipulation and eye gouging, so easy that they would be in every fight (eye gouging is illegal, and still is in every fight lol), and then the fights just wouldn't be enjoyable to watch at all. For most people at least.
And I don't think oblique kicks or that standing Americana thing are in this category.
 
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Ah The dirty moves of a shoulder crank/lock?. And kicks to the knee? That’s an odd stance to have in mma.
I was never a fan of mir but his shoulder lock on Pete Williams was fantastic.
Robert whitakers knee stomps and oblique kicks against Romero were way more vicious than that.
He was going full tong po. On yoels knee. Romero never complained about it.
 
andrejxvii said:
Yoel only took longer on the stool because Kennedy stuck his fingers inside of Yoel's glove and managed to hurt him with punches by doing so.
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i don’t recall the ref seeing it so it wasn’t called so there’s no foul. He had his wrist was hitting him which slipped to the glove in the midst of smashing him. If you don’t get off your stool you’re quitting. Most recent In a big fight would be poirers tap shouldn’t count as charles grabbed his gloves to get him in that position. Those things happen a lot. Especially on the ground trying to control wrists.

Credit to Yoel to get the knockout but it was a bullshit move. As the ref you don’t really want to dq a guy like that either. But he’s pretending he can’t understand basic commands of every start to a round won’t get up etc. and he was hurt badly. You have to blame the ref for not stopping the fight and allowing it to happen.
 
Titan1980 said:
Oh jesus it has to be that bitch that was gouging that other chicks eyes.

Eye poking in the context of trying to block a strike or posting I can understand as well as an accidental low blow, but fuck that ho. She deserves a huge fine and never see the octagon again. Preferably a huge enough time it bankrupts her and her kids end up having to carry the debt sort of fine.
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She's gonna find out the hard way what we do to eye gougers in prison
We don't joke with that shit
 
SashaIsABot said:
Yeah, you're right. Maybe it would be a little hypocritical to act all shocked by the risk of injury when it is explicitly one way to win a fight, and we are all here to see fights.
I guess the line is drawn at moves that have a somewhat high probability to kill or permanently disable the opponent, such as strikes on the vertebral column, throat, eyes.

It seems that one category of banned moves are the ones that can cause substantial damage or pain, and which are way too easy to do , like small joint manipulation and eye gouging, so easy that they would be in every fight (eye gouging is illegal, and still is in every fight lol), and then the fights just wouldn't be enjoyable to watch at all. For most people at least.
And I don't think oblique kicks or that standing Americana thing are in this category.
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Yes I agree with your assessment, the oblique kicks and standing submissions all have defense against the technique, just like there is defense for other punches/kicks/submissions. I think it's just a technique they don't experience often and the risk for injury is there so it freaks people out. They know the defense for the other techniques so they aren't as freaked out by those techniques.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
Most of those are legal. That just depends more on your moral compass. Fighting is dirty period, it's about legal and banned that should be the issue.

It's like armbars/kimuras/americanas aren't viewed as dirty but a standing version of it is? LOL
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Pretty sure Jones tried to injure him.
 
Bobby Knuckles, Till and Yoel are those live by sword die by the sword guys in terms of the those knee kicks. They all use it and all had knee surgeries at one point of their careers. MMA is one of the few sports where people get injuries to their knees, back, neck and hands . As fans we think it is okay and we expect them to come back brand new. It's almost career ending for other sports or even daily life changing.
 
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