Director's who lost their touch

PaleMoonlight said:
If Kubrick was still alive today - his movies wouldn’t get financed.
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Really? Please explain how the extremely highly acclaimed director of 2001, Clockwork Orange, The Shining, Full Metal Jacket etc. wouldnt get movie deals.
 
Directors not director's.

Most artists do their best work earlier in their careers. Even guys who still make good films like QT, Coens, Spielberg, PTA, Scorcese etc etc undoubtedly have seen a drop off since their prime years.

How many ATG films were made by directors over 60?
 
Drain Bamage said:
Really? Please explain how the extremely highly acclaimed director of 2001, Clockwork Orange, The Shining, Full Metal Jacket etc. wouldnt get movie deals.
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Because highly acclaimed doesn’t always equal profit.
 
Drain Bamage said:
Kubrick is a true auteur who wrote or co-wrote every feature film he was involved in (except for Spartacus) and was deeply involved in all aspects of the productions, from the cinematography to the music to the editing.

Ridley Scott doesn't have a single writing credit. And Ridley Scott has no signature visual style. He relies on his DP and his huge camera setups (6-12 cameras running simultaneously) to get the coverage needed.

Furthermore, why does every Ridley Scott movie have multiple versions? Nearly every time a Ridley Scott movie comes out, there is an extended version that comes out later, and maybe a 3rd and 4th cut after that. That's not how auteurs work. That's how someone who can't make up their mind works and is trying to please everybody.

Who goes back and re-edits their movie because people complain? Kubrick would tell the complainers to fuck off. Ridley is like "oh well let me re edit that for you!" - a true commercial directors mentality.

It's a stretch to equate these two. Scott has always been a very commercially minded director. He made Prometheus and Alien Covenant specifically to try and appease fans wanting more backstory on Alien. Kubrick wouldn't fuck with these people.
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You seem to be making my original point for me with the latter stuff, the negative reaction to Blade Runner pushed Scott much more towards a commercial mindset for his latter career.

Early Ridley Scott I would say did very clearly have a signature visual style, arguably THE most influential visual style of the last 40+ years(albeit with obvious influence from the likes of Kurbick and Tarkovsky plus classic noir on him) and even in his latter years his film carry some of that, for Alien and the Duelists he was actually doing most of the camera operation I believe. Writing wise I think he could actually have claimed a story credit for both Alien and Blade Runner but chose not to, you listen to People's especially talk about writing and its clear Scott is providing a lot of creative input
 
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Overpressure said:
I would say George Lucas but he might not have had much touch to start.
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THX-1138, American Grafitti and the original Star Wars were all fantastic.

Young George was great:

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Drain Bamage said:
Box Office:
Lincoln earned $182,207,973 in North America from 2,293 theaters and $93,085,477 overseas for a total of $275,293,450, well exceeding its $65 million budget.

Critical Acclaim:
Lincoln received worldwide critical acclaim. The cast was notably lauded, especially Day-Lewis, Field, and Jones. The film currently holds an 89% approval rating on the review aggregate website Rotten Tomatoes, based on 274 reviews with an average rating of 7.98/10,[62] with the critical consensus "Daniel Day-Lewis characteristically delivers in this witty, dignified portrait that immerses the audience in its world and entertains even as it informs." On Metacritic, which assigns a rating out of 100 based on reviews from critics, the film has a score of 86 (out of 100) based on 44 reviews, indicating "universal acclaim", thus making it Spielberg's highest rated film on the site since Saving Private Ryan.

Try again.
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It was boring
 
djacobox372 said:
THX-1138, American Grafitti and the original Star Wars were all fantastic.

Young George was great:

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THX had interesting ideas but I didn't care for the execution. Graffiti just wasn't for me as the subject matter didn't hold any interest for me. I was bored. Not his fault, I'd say.
The original SW was something his then-wife was largely put together in editing, fixing pacing issues and cutting fluff to focus the story.
 
Richard Kelly

It's insane how somebody can go from making Donnie Darko to making............. the rest of his filmography.
 
sweetviolenturg said:
I was trying to think of anything that I enjoyed from any of this group pf filmmakers recently & the only thing that I came up with is Friedkin's KILLER JOE from 2011 or 2012. As unpleasant as it is, I think Friedkin did a good job with it & there are some great performances in it. In fact, while I'm thinking of it I believe I'll go order the unrated director's cut on Blu-ray.
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I didn't even know he directed that, that was a good flick.

After directing The French Connection in 1971 and The Exorcist in 1973 he was looking like a god-tier director but his output post-Exorcist was very uneven IMO.
 
All these Fast and Furious threads and nobody is saying Justin Lin?
 
Drain Bamage said:
William Friedkin
John Landis
Francis Ford Coppolla
Brian De Palma
The Wachowski Brothers
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Coppola is more interested in growing wine.

The Wachowski Brothers started sucking the weirder and more female they got.
 
M Night Shyamalan definitely deserves a mention. Going from the Sixth Sense to After Earth is a pretty dire drop-off in quality.
 
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