Did Mayweather Carry McGregor?

[in the liver]

I've watched this fight three times now, but even watching it live, it was clear to me that Conor McGregor was carried by Mayweather. I'll explain in light detail as to why it was clear:

1. In the first three rounds, Mayweather threw a total of 28 punches, compared to McGregor's 115. Mayweather landed 12 of those shots (43%). McGregor landed 26 (23%). These are the three rounds that most fans give to McGregor, simply for the lack of activity from Mayweather. However, over the course of the last seven rounds, the numbers are much different. After the first three rounds, Mayweather averaged 33 punches per round, landing a ridiculous 67% of them. For comparison, McGregor threw 45 punches per round, but landed only 26% of them. The numbers are quite clear: Once Mayweather started punching, he hit McGregor at will, while McGregor was missing 3/4 punches, and even less of his power punches. Once Mayweather started punching, the fight wasn't even close.

2. Mayweather did this while fighting uncharacteristically. Mayweather completely ditched his hyper-defensive style. His footwork was largely flat. His shell defense was gone. Even his head movement was lacking in the speed and precision boxing fans are accustomed to. Mayweather often lunged into punches instead of staying square above his hips. McGregor's best chance at winning the fight was always going to be a counter left, and Mayweather handed the opportunities to him in spades. McGregor could not capitalize on Mayweather's uncharacteristically sloppy fighting. I've seen people blame it on Mayweather's age, but these aren't age-related techniques that he was missing. If he was a step slower than we thought he'd be, that would be one thing, but his signature style that brought him 49 consecutive wins was mysteriously gone. The only explanation to him abandoning his style was that he wanted, in his own words, to "give the fans a good fight". It wouldn't be a good fight if Mayweather had gone out and countered McGregor flawlessly and knocking him out in 4 rounds. It was a "good fight" because it made Conor "look good".

3. Mayweather let Conor escape constantly. Mayweather is notoriously good at cutting off the ring against opponents when he's moving forward. Against Conor, he gave up distance and allowed Conor to move laterally in circles, almost as though they were fighting in an octagon instead of a ring. Perhaps a gentleman's agreement? Mayweather's best counters come when he traps an opponent in a corner and counters desperate shots; Against McGregor, he never even attempted to get in McGregor's path to pursue one of his trademark skills.

I don't know if Conor has giant balls, or loves money more than brain cells, and I've certainly been hard on him before and after the fight. Mad respect for even climbing in the ring against one of the greatest of all time; That said, it is clear even on a very basic analysis of the fight that Mayweather didn't take it seriously, and allowed Connor to look "good" to the uninitiated. It was a fun fight, but it wasn't competitive.

I believe that Mayweather abandoned the skills that he was best at to allow McGregor to look competitive. He did it for the fans after promising to make up for the Pacquiao fight. That said: I think Mayweather could have finished the fight much earlier if he treated McGregor like a real boxer.

its not my opinion that mayweather carried conor but i think his tactic was to just wait til conor gassed. that meant a few rounds doing very little and hanging back til conor was very fatigued, even being hesitant with the finish to minimise risk. at the end conor was completely defenceless because i guess he doesnt have the backbone for roadwork.

 

[MorrisonJay]

No, he reiterated that Floyd changed his style completely, but then said some bullshit about how it was "the best way" to beat Conor.

It also didn't really address any of the points. Like, at all.

You still refuse to answer my questions. You've been posting in this thread but conveniently avoid making your own argument. You're a coward.

LOL fuc*ing seriously! He answered and you just ignored because you did not agree!

Simple as that!

 

[SHRHNS]

List these so called excuses Conor is making,? Real ones , not delusional hate one!

1) I I had him in the first two rounds

2) I made him fight like a mexican

3) I made him switch styles three times. Sorry I mean tree times.

4) I will beat him in a rematch. Conor is such a prostitute. He has already been pimped and he is now saying : "I hope Floyd spends his money wisely and makes smart investments so we don't have to meet again" I.e. please rematch me. You can make more money. I want to be pimped again.

5) I wasn't hurt just fatigued. I ALWAYS do the chicken leg when Im fatigued.

6) The judges were unfair

7) Referee stopped it too early. I should have gone down.

8) He was efficient with his energy and I wasnt.

9) He was more composed in there.

Want to see a real man? Look at Cruz after the Garbrandt fight!

@BEER Look at all those excuses. More will come about injuries in the coming days. If he is like that what can you expect from his minions?

@MorrisonJay Where you at?

 

[UhHuhSure]

1) I I had him in the first two rounds

2) I made him fight like a mexican

3) I made him switch styles three times. Sorry I mean tree times.

4) I will beat him in a rematch

5) I wasn't hurt just fatigued. I ALWAYS do the chicken leg when Im fatigued.

6) The judges were unfair

7) He was efficient with his energy and I wasnt.

left out, "he was more composed..."

 

[BEER]

LOL fuc*ing seriously! He answered and you just ignored because you did not agree!

Simple as that!

He didn't though.

And I love how you're STILL not making your own argument. Why are you white knighting other arguments and not using your own?

 

[SHRHNS]

left out, "he was more composed..."

Oh yeh one sec

 

[BEER]

its not my opinion that mayweather carried conor but i think his tactic was to just wait til conor gassed. that meant a few rounds doing very little and hanging back til conor was very fatigued, even being hesitant with the finish to minimise risk. at the end conor was completely defenceless because i guess he doesnt have the backbone for roadwork.

I agree with you right until you say he was "minimizing risk". Mayweather fought in a way that gave McGregor every opportunity to do real damage. His defense was lazy, he was lunging into punches, he allowed Conor to create setups with the jab, etc. It was the "riskiest" I've ever seen Mayweather fight.

And Conor still couldn't do much of anything. That fight could have been over MUCH sooner of Mayweather cut the ring and countered instead of letting Conor dictate the distance and pace. And make no mistake, he LET Conor do those things. Mayweather didn't respect Conor's power at all.

 

[in the liver]

I agree with you right until you say he was "minimizing risk". Mayweather fought in a way that gave McGregor every opportunity to do real damage. His defense was lazy, he was lunging into punches, he allowed Conor to create setups with the jab, etc. It was the "riskiest" I've ever seen Mayweather fight.

And Conor still couldn't do much of anything. That fight could have been over MUCH sooner of Mayweather cut the ring and countered instead of letting Conor dictate the distance and pace. And make no mistake, he LET Conor do those things. Mayweather didn't respect Conor's power at all.

It was certainly a more risky approach than what mayweather usually does, but i feel he chipped away at conor even still, until the end when he really opened up. Was very strange seeing floyd walk someone down lol

 

[SHRHNS]

It was certainly a more risky approach than what mayweather usually does, but i feel he chipped away at conor even still, until the end when he really opened up. Was very strange seeing floyd walk someone down lol

I think Conor's power is overrated big time. He relies on opponents breaking and not necessary his one punch power.

 

[BEER]

It was certainly a more risky approach than what mayweather usually does, but i feel he chipped away at conor even still, until the end when he really opened up. Was very strange seeing floyd walk someone down lol

I've mentioned in another thread that the first three rounds were the "gameplan". He definitely wanted to McGregor to punch himself out. After the third round, he was landing at will. But his strategy and style was utilized in a way that put on a "good fight", as opposed to dominating Conor. After the third round (and even before then), he was perfectly capable of cutting the ring and countering Conor in the corner. If he fought that way, I suspect the fight would have been over much sooner.

Cutting the ring and countering fighters swinging from the corner is a staple of Mayweather's approach. He never used it against Conor. One of many of his "signature" skills that he abandoned. One that none of the people arguing non-sequitur points have managed to refute.

I think Conor's power is overrated big time. He relies on opponents breaking and not necessary his one punch power.

Conor has only one-punched one guy in the UFC (Aldo), and one other guy in his career. Both of whom ran into a punch. In MMA, he's highly accurate with great timing. He tends to catch guys coming in. When he's hurt people who were moving backwards, they were from huge haymakers that would be useless in a boxing setting.

Conor doesn't have brute power. He's even admitted that in the past, talking about precision and timing. Then he bought into the hype of his own power.

 

[MorrisonJay]

1) I I had him in the first two rounds

2) I made him fight like a mexican

3) I made him switch styles three times. Sorry I mean tree times.

4) I will beat him in a rematch. Conor is such a prostitute. He has already been pimped and he is now saying : "I hope Floyd spends his money wisely and makes smart investments so we don't have to meet again" I.e. please rematch me. You can make more money. I want to be pimped again.

5) I wasn't hurt just fatigued. I ALWAYS do the chicken leg when Im fatigued.

6) The judges were unfair

7) Referee stopped it too early. I should have gone down.

8) He was efficient with his energy and I wasnt.

9) He was more composed in there.

Want to see a real man? Look at Cruz after the Garbrandt fight!

@BEER Look at all those excuses. More will come about injuries in the coming days.

1- He said he won the first three rounds, and I believe he did. Did he actually say "he had him in the first 3 rounds" or is that hate talk?

2- is that really an excuse? Even sugar ray leonard said in the early rounds Conor was the boxer, and Floyd the fighter..

3- again, did conor actually say that. I heard Conor say he switched styles three times, and when he said this Floyd agreed. But I have not heard Conor say he made him change.

4- saying you want a rematch is not an excuse!

5- He was the same in the Diaz fight in round 3, to the point where it looked like Diaz was going to knock him out. Conor came back and won the fight by taking round four. So, I can understand him saying that.

7- of course the judges were unfair! This was boxing, and he would never win a decision. I had him winning the first three rounds, the commentators I listened to, including sugar ray had him winning more than won round.

8- Obviously this is the truth, and not an excuse. Bow many times did conor punch and just hit Floyd's clothes, or take his back. Floyd is used to pacing himself out. That is because of years of boxing experience.

9- again, not an excuse. Floyd was more composed in there!

A lot of your points, is msking something out of nothing, and mzybe throwing in your own words on what Conor said!

 

[Lockard The GOAT]

I knew from day one that if Conor did better than anyone expected he would, his usual critics and haters would find a reason not to give him credit. Threads like these come as no surprise.

Floyd didn't "carry" shit. What he did was employ a strategy - A strategy that everyone knew going into the fight that he was going to use: Outbox Conor for about five or six rounds, and then when he starts to gas out and fade, step on the gas and slowly turn up the pressure more and more and score either a KO/TKO or a lop-sided decision victory. Which is exactly what happened. Everyone said heading in that if Conor couldn't land a big shot by the fourth or fifth round, his chances of winning were next to zero. Even then, he still briefly hurt Floyd with a body shot in the 8th or 9th.

 

[SHRHNS]

1- He said he won the first three rounds, and I believe he did. Did he actually say "he had him in the first 3 rounds" or is that hate talk?

2- is that really an excuse? Even sugar ray leonard said in the early rounds Conor was the boxer, and Floyd the fighter..

3- again, did conor actually say that. I heard Conor say he switched styles three times, and when he said this Floyd agreed. But I have not heard Conor say he made him change.

4- saying you want a rematch is not an excuse!

5- He was the same in the Diaz fight in round 3, to the point where it looked like Diaz was going to knock him out. Conor came back and won the fight by taking round four. So, I can understand him saying that.

7- of course the judges were unfair! This was boxing, and he would never win a decision. I had him winning the first three rounds, the commentators I listened to, including sugar ray had him winning more than won round.

8- Obviously this is the truth, and not an excuse. Bow many times did conor punch and just hit Floyd's clothes, or take his back. Floyd is used to pacing himself out. That is because of years of boxing experience.

9- again, not an excuse. Floyd was more composed in there!

A lot of your points, is msking something out of nothing, and mzybe throwing in your own words on what Conor said!

1- He said he won the first three rounds, and I believe he did. Did he actually say "he had him in the first 3 rounds" or is that hate talk?

Yes he said that. Floyd carried him invalid excuse.

2- is that really an excuse? Even sugar ray leonard said in the early rounds Conor was the boxer, and Floyd the fighter..

Conor thought he made Floyd ditch his defensive style because he was scared. So he made him aggressive. Yes makes sense. Someone afraid of defense would attack. Mmhmm.

3- again, did conor actually say that. I heard Conor say he switched styles three times, and when he said this Floyd agreed. But I have not heard Conor say he made him change.

He said it go do research. He is trying to make it out like he was doing something to trouble Floyd. In reality, Floyd was showing him different angles.

4- saying you want a rematch is not an excuse!

It is an excuse because of the implication. I would beat him in a rematch = I wasnt my full self tonight Ill beat him next time.

5- He was the same in the Diaz fight in round 3, to the point where it looked like Diaz was going to knock him out. Conor came back and won the fight by taking round four. So, I can understand him saying that.

Conor was just staggered a bit in the Diaz fight. Floyd made him legit wobble. Conor had these excuses pre planned.

7- of course the judges were unfair! This was boxing, and he would never win a decision. I had him winning the first three rounds, the commentators I listened to, including sugar ray had him winning more than won round.

Ok so either they are unfair or they are not. One jugde gave Conor the first three. The other 2 majority most of gave conor the first round only in the early rounds. Conor said that they were wrong. They were not.

8- Obviously this is the truth, and not an excuse. Bow many times did conor punch and just hit Floyd's clothes, or take his back. Floyd is used to pacing himself out. That is because of years of boxing experience.

He should have learnt after gassing twice against Diaz but didnt. It is an excuse because he is saying he was inefficient. Remember the McGregor bullshit fast program?

9- again, not an excuse. Floyd was more composed in there!

Meaning I wasn't composed. An excuse. Conor again said this after the two Diaz fights. Should have learnt invalid excuse.

You love Sugar Ray now, don't you? That was his opinion. Most pros there said McGregor looked like shit.

 

[in the liver]

I think Conor's power is overrated big time. He relies on opponents breaking and not necessary his one punch power.

I dunno man, i feel like he completely changed his style in that fight, his punches were horrible. No weight behind anything. I dunno if he just got brutalised in sparring when he threw anything heavy or if he choked on fight night, he looked so tentative in there

But in general i reckon it actually his placement thats good, not his power

 

[SHRHNS]

I dunno man, i feel like he completely changed his style in that fight, his punches were horrible. No weight behind anything. I dunno if he just got brutalised in sparring when he threw anything heavy or if he choked on fight night, he looked so tentative in there

But in general i reckon it actually his placement thats good, not his power

I dont know man. I cant see Conor beating ANYONE who doesnt panic when he releases the early storm.

 

[MorrisonJay]

1- He said he won the first three rounds, and I believe he did. Did he actually say "he had him in the first 3 rounds" or is that hate talk?

Yes he said that. Floyd carried him invalid excuse.

2- is that really an excuse? Even sugar ray leonard said in the early rounds Conor was the boxer, and Floyd the fighter..

Conor thought he made Floyd ditch his defensive style because he was scared. So he made him aggressive. Yes makes sense. Someone afraid of defense would attack. Mmhmm.

3- again, did conor actually say that. I heard Conor say he switched styles three times, and when he said this Floyd agreed. But I have not heard Conor say he made him change.

He said it go do research. He is trying to make it out like he was doing something to trouble Floyd. In reality, Floyd was showing him different angles.

4- saying you want a rematch is not an excuse!

It is an excuse because of the implication. I would beat him in a rematch = I wasnt my full self tonight Ill beat him next time.

5- He was the same in the Diaz fight in round 3, to the point where it looked like Diaz was going to knock him out. Conor came back and won the fight by taking round four. So, I can understand him saying that.

Conor was just staggered a bit in the Diaz fight. Floyd made him legit wobble. Conor had these excuses pre planned.

7- of course the judges were unfair! This was boxing, and he would never win a decision. I had him winning the first three rounds, the commentators I listened to, including sugar ray had him winning more than won round.

Ok so either they are unfair or they are not. One jugde gave Conor the first three. The other 2 majority most of gave conor the first round only in the early rounds. Conor said that they were wrong. They were not.

8- Obviously this is the truth, and not an excuse. Bow many times did conor punch and just hit Floyd's clothes, or take his back. Floyd is used to pacing himself out. That is because of years of boxing experience.

He should have learnt after gassing twice against Diaz but didnt. It is an excuse because he is saying he was inefficient. Remember the McGregor bullshit fast program?

9- again, not an excuse. Floyd was more composed in there!

Meaning I wasn't composed. An excuse. Conor again said this after the two Diaz fights. Should have learnt invalid excuse.

You love Sugar Ray now, don't you? That was his opinion. Most pros there said McGregor looked like shit.

Ok, let's do this step by step. Question one. Where did conor say "he had him in the first three rounds"? I have heard him say he believed he won the first three rounds, but I could be wrong. As it is you making this claim, can you post the evidence he said this?

 

[SHRHNS]

Ok, let's do this step by step. Question one. Where did conor say "he had him in the first three rounds"? I have heard him say he believed he won the first three rounds, but I could be wrong. As it is you making this claim, can you post the evidence he said this?

Do your own research and come back. My post is not running away anywhere. Dont have the time to go and select videos and timestamps for you.

 

[MorrisonJay]

So you will not back up your claim and expect me to do it for you lol You you claim something, you should be able to back it up. I guess it will be the same with the other questions

 

[SHRHNS]

So you will not back up your claim and expect me to do it for you lol You you claim something, you should be able to back it up. I guess it will be the same with the other questions

If it makes you feel better. I feel bad. You sound hopeless and you havent used profanity.

 

[MorrisonJay]

LOL ok, you cannot back it up, which means you are lying! Maybe come back to me when you have proof of your claims!

Until then, you are just another hater putting words in Conor mouth!