Did Mayweather Carry McGregor?

[BB in Crazy!!!!]

The fight I saw was a fight where Floyd didn't have a reach advantage and fought Conor in the pocket instead. Floyd was content to shell in the pocket and make Conor tire himself out. That's why Floyd walked him down the entire fight. Conor gassed and THEN Floyd opnened up and picked him apart. It was a cake walk at that point.

BUT before Conor gassed we SAW Floyd get countered repeadedly when he opened up in the eaely rounds. He wasn't doing that on purpose bro.

So why has Mayweather never walked flat footed in a straight line against other guys who had a reach advantage over him? Like say, Diego Corrales who is similar height and reach as Connor.

 

[TheBulletwithWings]

Being gracious in victory. Something Conor knows nothing about

Amir Khan had a pretty good take on it. Nice to see some of the boxers give respect where it's due. Conor did well just doesn't have the cardio for boxing and barely has the cardio for MMA.

 

[memling]

I told all my friends before this fight that the biggest problem McGregor was going to have in this fight would be pacing himself appropriately for 12 rounds. It doesn't matter that he's gone 25 minutes before, the 12 round 3 minute pace is a much different pace. We've seen amazing wrestlers flame out in MMA because they can't adjust to the pace even though they're in phenomenal shape. This is something I know from my own experience in competition and having had to deal with injuries since very early on in martial arts. Someone with inferior cardio can look way more fresh late in the fight if they pace themselves the right way and use experience and veterancy to limit energy expenditure and their opponent doesn't.

Mayweather's gameplan was clear: they thought Conor would be at his most dangerous early on when he can use his youth and athleticism and in any kind of scramble or positioning transition where he can use his footwork and weird angles and unorthodox technique to max advantage.

Mayweather staying flat and letting Conor dance around while staying where Mayweather wants to be, and letting McGregor tire himself out was the gameplan. Not Floyd carrying him. He played it super cautious as he always does, minimized his risk completely, and then once his opponent played into his trap he exploited him completely. A brilliant performance by Mayweather, he understands the game theory optimal approach to boxing better than anyone.

 

[Barkus]

Watch it again with less beer this time bro. You're going full eddie bravo here with this conspiracy.

 

[BEER]

Watch it again with less beer this time bro. You're going full eddie bravo here with this conspiracy.

All three watches were sober and you didn't refute a single point in the OP.

Because you can't.

 

[memling]

McGregor is known for using deceptive footwork to drop fighters in one shot when they advance against him, like he did to Aldo. Mayweather not advancing towards McGregor often was for sure part of his coaches advice. They know that's when McGregor is at his most dangerous.

Mayweather's head movement wasn't as perfect as we've seen it be but cmon, the guy is starting to get old, we're going to see some of his skills fade.

 

[BB in Crazy!!!!]

I told all my friends before this fight that the biggest problem McGregor was going to have in this fight would be pacing himself appropriately for 12 rounds. It doesn't matter that he's gone 25 minutes before, the 12 round 3 minute pace is a much different pace. We've seen amazing wrestlers flame out in MMA because they can't adjust to the pace even though they're in phenomenal shape. This is something I know from my own experience in competition and having had to deal with injuries since very early on in martial arts. Someone with inferior cardio can look way more fresh late in the fight if they pace themselves the right way and use experience and veterancy to limit energy expenditure and their opponent doesn't.

Mayweather's gameplan was clear: they thought Conor would be at his most dangerous early on when he can use his youth and athleticism and in any kind of scramble or positioning transition where he can use his footwork and weird angles and unorthodox technique to max advantage.

Mayweather staying flat and letting Conor dance around while staying where Mayweather wants to be, and letting McGregor tire himself out was the gameplan. Not Floyd carrying him. He played it super cautious as he always does, minimized his risk completely, and then once his opponent played into his trap he exploited him completely. A brilliant performance by Mayweather, he understands the game theory optimal approach to boxing better than anyone.

See, this I do agree with. I was under this impression as well. And the later rounds Mayweather just was not letting Connor breath and was not showing him any respect because Mayweather knew Connor wasn't a threat at that point. He was just having fun going for the finish having an exciting fight. Even early on he wasn't too worried, I think he just planned on letting Connor wear himself out, and could still get away with fighting lazy.

Either way, Mayweather fought out of character and still got his first finish in 7 years while being 40 years old.

 

[Barkus]

Are you seriously claiming that Floyd wasn't getting countered in the early rounds?

 

[somemark]

Are you seriously claiming that Floyd wasn't getting countered in the early rounds?

yeah floyd ate some counters - and every single one was an arm punch that didn't come close to hurting floyd

 

[BEER]

Mayweather's head movement wasn't as perfect as we've seen it be but cmon, the guy is starting to get old, we're going to see some of his skills fade.

I addressed the age argument and head movement was only a fraction of the argument.

 

[7.62x39]

the ones who said, "no" have been doing too much drugs.

 

[hashback*]

I'm not buying it. I've watched the fight several times now and it's clear to me Mayweather doesn't engage for he first 3 rounds out of respect for how dangerous Conor was. His jab was sharp and Floyd was cautious. He didn't win those rounds because he couldn't.

When round 4 hit he figured Conor was spent enough to pursue him but it didn't immediately result in a KO, Conor was still dangerous but was frustrated and flustered by the rules by then.

I think this "Carrying" narrative is just another boxing spin just to save face. The idea of any fighter besides a Boxer even being remotely competitive is a slap in the face to everything they believe. It's just downright ridiculous and peurile. Just some abstract fantastical conspiracy to protect their shitty sport.

Or the same old usual suspects of Conor haters who obsess over him like fucking weirdos lol. You're the ones who actually make this guy rich, you know that right? Lol

/End thread

 

[Adamant]

Pretty sure that was Floyd's gameplan. He was gonna let Conor punch himself out in the first few rounds and then start chipping away in the middle rounds, and then end it in the later rounds. I guess you could call that a carry.

 

[gmr7494]

Pretty sure that was Floyd's gameplan. He was gonna let Conor punch himself out in the first few rounds and then start chipping away in the middle rounds, and then end it in the later rounds. I guess you could call that a carry.

That was his gameplan. Listen to the espn postfight interview.

 

[franklinstower]

I'm not buying it. I've watched the fight several times now and it's clear to me Mayweather doesn't engage for he first 3 rounds out of respect for how dangerous Conor was. His jab was sharp and Floyd was cautious. He didn't win those rounds because he couldn't.

When round 4 hit he figured Conor was spent enough to pursue him but it didn't immediately result in a KO, Conor was still dangerous but was frustrated and flustered by the rules by then.

I think this "Carrying" narrative is just another boxing spin just to save face. The idea of any fighter besides a Boxer even being remotely competitive is a slap in the face to everything they believe. It's just downright ridiculous and peurile. Just some abstract fantastical conspiracy to protect their shitty sport.

Or the same old usual suspects of Conor haters who obsess over him like fucking weirdos lol. You're the ones who actually make this guy rich, you know that right? Lol

I voted Yes. I think the plan was to carry Conor and that's what he did. Yes Conor did better than people expected, better than Floyd expected also but the plan was to carry him and that's what he did. If Conor came out and did way better than people expected all the more reason to wait till 5-6 to start putting it on.

 

[unimackpass]

Anyone who doesn't see that Floyd definitely fought casually and in effect carried McGregor doesn't understand boxing.

I'm slightly irritated by now hearing people say McGregor landed more punches than Pac etc while ignoring the context of how it actually occurred. Not sure if it is owing to delusion or stupidity.

Here here.

 

[unimackpass]

"Suckassss"

 

[Cairne Bloodhoof]

Yes, he was carried.

Mayweather didn't use one of his signature moves, the jab to the stomach, at all.

Had he used that from the jump ? That should would have been over much sooner.

He was like a cat, playing with his food.

 

[Bogotazo]

Yes but it had a dual purpose. Entertainment was one and strategy was another. He wanted him to blow his load.

 

[Bogotazo]

No. Conor gassed. That was the only difference.

If Mayweather opened up and came forward when Connor was fresh, he would have got starched.

Good experience and gamesmanship by Mayweather.

Lmao this is now the new narrative huh? With a full gas tank Connor outboxes Floyd despite the fact he only landed a few punches that didn't hurt Floyd at all and was losing well before the 9th.