Did Conor show his hand by not fighting at UFC 200?

[bigconan]

The only thing he did was delay his paycheck by a month. UFC 202 will do just as well and maybe better then 200.

With the addition of brock. I think 200 will beat 202. Maybe not by much. But there are so many good fights on 200, i can't see it not doing better than 202. Especially with brock now.. Everyone combined will be 202.

 

[wellsdj1]

I don't think so. And to prove it, this a Conor McGregor thread on sherdog with very little response. A single quote from Conor in November would get like 10 pages in 20 minutes.

I don't like Conor, never will. I still think 200 and 202 will have similar ppvs buys. If 200 has more I don't think it will be that much more. The UFC machine will kick in once 200 is over. UFC 201 will hardly be talked about.

 

[Metallicalabran]

I bet Conor/Diaz outsells 200. Jon Jones has never touched Conor's numbers.

Brock Lesnar is the real factor in 200

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

He showed his foot, and put it right in his mouth

 

[Haj01]

Conor couldn't predict the return of Lesnar...... HE just simply can't predict dese tings, mystic mac was off here.

 

[The Big Bang]

He lost $$$ --------- 200 money > 202 money

He lost respect --------- This applies in MANY ways, but as one example, after he pulled out of UFC 200 he tried to talk shit about the fighters that are ACTUALLY FIGHTING AT 200 by saying that they haven't made the UFC x amount of money...

He lost any waning ability that he had to talk shit to Nate by acting the fool to the Nth degree --------- The media tour is going to be laughable at best.

He lost fans --------- Many people that used to stand up for him in spite of his antics have now seen the light, as Conor is greedy in a way that interferes with him as a fighter... i.e. no UFC 200 for him. On a related note, he knows that he'll NEVER get a fight with Floyd...which is partially why he created that smoke-screen to begin with.

Lastly, he lost his soul to Nate.

Nate owns him...FOREVER.

 

[ChucksGlassJaw]

The UFC was so threatened they had to coax a freakshow wrestler out of retirement. That's how much they were worried about that card not selling. They'll get the wwf fans one last time. After that, they're fucked.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

The UFC was so threatened they had to coax a freakshow wrestler out of retirement. That's how much they were worried about that card not selling. They'll get the wwf fans one last time. After that, they're fucked.

Yah, the UFC is so fucked, thank God Conor came along and the company finally became solvent

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

He probably would have made twice as much fighting in 200 than 202. He lost a ton of cash.

I thought he negotiated a standard ten million, per fight, thus he could give no shits about promo, or numbers, or the undercard.

He actually played it very well if you think about it.

 

[jonnyboy316]

I think 202 can ride off the momentum of 200 if it is successful and pull a big number. I think the delay has done Conor a favour as it has given him some extra time to prepare although I still don't think he wins.

 

[gnarlynasty]

I bet Conor/Diaz outsells 200. Jon Jones has never touched Conor's numbers.

I have a feeling Jones will touch McGregor numbers this time with the help of a great supporting cast. I think 200 will do similar numbers to 202 or even better but Conor/Diaz 2 will sell regardless cause it's make or break time for Conor.

 

[ChucksGlassJaw]

Yah, the UFC is so fucked, thank God Conor came along and the company finally became solvent

They don't have any marketable stars. Jones is boring and has no hands. Rousey is insane. HW is a joke. Bisping is a never was that got lucky. Cruz depends more on defense than offense, which a lot of people find boring. MM is great, but good luck getting anybody to care about that weight.

That's a pretty fucking dire list of champs. Even among prospects, you have Wonderboy and a Russian Muslim made of glass.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

They don't have any marketable stars. Jones is boring and has no hands. Rousey is insane. HW is a joke. Bisping is a never was that got lucky. Cruz depends more on defense than offense, which a lot of people find boring. MM is great, but good luck getting anybody to care about that weight.

That's a pretty fucking dire list of champs. Even among prospects, you have Wonderboy and a Russian Muslim made of glass.

Oh, what the fuck ever

 

[ChucksGlassJaw]

Oh, what the fuck ever

Real fuckin good retort.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Real fuckin good retort.

That's more than it deserved.

 

[nostradumbass]

They don't have any marketable stars. Jones is boring and has no hands. Rousey is insane. HW is a joke. Bisping is a never was that got lucky. Cruz depends more on defense than offense, which a lot of people find boring. MM is great, but good luck getting anybody to care about that weight.

That's a pretty fucking dire list of champs. Even among prospects, you have Wonderboy and a Russian Muslim made of glass.

The first Jones/Cormier fight did around the same as Conor/Mendes, with almost no undercard support. The UFC 200 card is stacked with like 5 fights that could all be main events, with the exception of the Tate fight, and even she has a world-class ass adn big fake tits. Time will tell, but I think it was Conor's constant promotional work that made him a draw, and he's not doing that anymore. I would be shocked if UFC 202 did 1M and I would be equally shocked if UFC 200 didn't.

 

[MrMightyMouse]

He wanted special treatment, and to not have to promote the fight, thinking he was a big enough star that the UFC would have to just accept it because he's irreplaceable. Well, they did replace him and put together the best card I've ever seen, and he loses out on all that undercard support to get his PPV points, and there isn't nearly as much Conor talk like there was. Did he shoot himself in the foot? Is there any chance UFC 202 does nearly as well as UFC 200, or did he just prove that he is another cog in the hype machine?

UFC 200 only became huge, because Lesnar was added. All the other fights are ok, but not on the level that Lesnar's fight is. Lesnar adds a shitload of buys to UFC 200. I firmly believe that, if McGoat was on UFC 200, Lesnar would not been added. Lesnar was added as PLAN B, in my opinion, all because Mcgoat was not on the card...

 

[Ivanhoe]

TS is a dumbass

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

I don't think so. And to prove it, this a Conor McGregor thread on sherdog with very little response. A single quote from Conor in November would get like 10 pages in 20 minutes.

Conor fans have moved onto Stephen Thompson

 

[Meathead Jock]

Well that's the point. They weren't ever "Conor's numbers", they were UFC numbers, and they could do it with any of several guys. Conor had 2 big fights with a shitload of UFC hype, and did a little better than Jones. Let's not pretend Conor had like 10 consecutive best-selling fights.

I think Conor was way overhyped and overrated but that part just isn't true. He sold because Irish people like fighting sports and as a whole they don't have many other great athletes to split the attention with. Rousey sold because idiots and women thought she could beat up men; they both targeted groups of fans that weren't otherwise being touched.

With Jon Jones there are dozens of black american based fighters with a lot of skill so they won't be able to grab the casual fans with him because its something that doesn't surprise them.