News Devin Haney sues Ryan Garcia

[Old Cat]

No they don’t trump PEDS, this is high level boxing everyone has fundamentals and is a danger, PEDS are specifically made to negate and override results based on fundamentals. That’s why they exist. Come on, man. Being deliberately dense and I don’t know why. Stubborn is what it is at this point.

Could it be your clouded dislike for young, Mr. Garcia?


He fell for the same set up umpteen times that’s not PED’s.

 

[Old Cat]

Keyshawn Davis is not an authority figure on the impact of ostarine on the fight outcome, he fucking called it "ostrogen" LOL. Being famous doesn't make you an authority. An example of an appeal to authority fallacy would be pointing to a PED expert and saying "Dr.X said it so it must be true".

The point of the few videos was, very few fighters are gonna agree with your position, not that Davis or some random coach is an authority. I don’t know why you’re making this argument I certainly wasn’t.

Y’all can call me dull all you want, but you’re digging in your heels for no reason.


Haney has deficiencies in his game, period! And they were quite evident in that fight.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

Could it be your clouded dislike for young, Mr. Garcia?


He fell for the same set up umpteen times that’s not PED’s.

I was like one of 3 supporters he had on forum ahead of his fight with Tank. He started spouting racist nonsense and did better than people expected against Haney who everyone predicted to beat him and all of a sudden everyone is a fan. This is the most pathetic deflection I’ve ever seen. Your weren’t supporting him until he became a cunt, be real.

 

[Old Cat]

I was like one of 3 supporters he had on forum ahead of his fight with Tank. He started spouting racist nonsense and did better than people expected against Haney who everyone predicted to beat him and all of a sudden everyone is a fan. This is the most pathetic deflection I’ve ever seen. Your weren’t supporting him until he became a cunt, be real.

Dude, I don’t support Garcia.

You’ve confused my position about Haney with support for him. You probably should’ve asked me rather than assume..

 

[Old Cat]

Well other than I feel bad for Garcia, he’s clearly on drugs and has emotional and mental issues. I feel compassion for him.

Just to be clear

 

[Old Cat]

oh, and what would it matter if I supported him? The two things are mutually exclusive.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

Dude, I don’t support Garcia.

You’ve confused my position about Haney with support for him. You probably should’ve asked me rather than assume..

You assumed my position was based on clouded hate.

Then why are you so obsessed with telling Haney to man up and take the L? Like he needs to go back to the gym more than Ryan needs to get right with his mind and with peoples trust again after cheating and showing up unprofessionally over weight as a clear tactic to have an unfair advantage. I get Haney agreed to weight, but he also pretty much controlled entire fight outside 4 left hooks.

The thing about all combat fundamentals is its skill based off timing, physics, leverage, etc time tested concepts that show an understanding of the science of the fight, and when you introduce PEDs into the mix and suddenly physics and leverage and timing and physical limits of your opponents body stop existing or mattering in the context of everything you throw at them well the most fundamentally sound fighter starts looking amateurish and like they never did the sport they were supposed to have been known to excel in.

Talk about his fundamentals all you want. I happen to think his backing straight up is his biggest problem, but I’m not gonna automatically pretend he’s exposed for technical flaws after he got caught by a bigger fighter on PEDs lol. It’s tainted.

 

[burningspear]

Benn has some neck commenting lol

 

[WklySportsMemes]

deflection? That’s the short bus captain calling the retard slow.

Boy, you follow me around like a school kid and then lie like a rug about it.

If someone disagrees with you, they are somehow a bad person? Yet you lie over and over again, most circles would call that Evil.

Don't call me boy, clown. You have a bad habit of that. Haney isn't a boy either. Curb your tongue.

You're a bad person because you're a dishonest actor and based on your actual actions in real life that aren't related to this thread. But thats entirely unrelated. Play victim to somebody else.

You were called out for your dumbass take on PEDs & missing weight not impacting the outcome for an overturned fight. You couldn't defend your brain dead point. So now you are trying to pick a fight about something else.
Weak.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Of course you can get hit in a fight and still win.

People are so fixated on Garcia’s distasteful behavior they’re missing the point: Haney was repeatedly hit cleanly with that left hook not because of performance enhancing drugs, rather it’s because he has a “fundamentals” issue.

Also, he is bleeding fans and is strongly criticized not because he lost to someone who pissed hot, but because he’s choosing to sue and his whined like a girl about it.

Missing the point is calling blatant cheating to get multiple advantages "distasteful behavior."
Its cheating & the fight was overturned in part to that. Its also cheating and Ryan wasn't eligible to win a belt because of it.

Haney may be looking for a new coach...Im sure Bill & Freddie would really love to work with you...tell us more about the fUnDaMenTALS to where you shouldn't ever have to worry about your opponent following the rules of the sport.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

You assumed my position was based on clouded hate.

Then why are you so obsessed with telling Haney to man up and take the L? Like he needs to go back to the gym more than Ryan needs to get right with his mind and with peoples trust again after cheating and showing up unprofessionally over weight as a clear tactic to have an unfair advantage. I get Haney agreed to weight, but he also pretty much controlled entire fight outside 4 left hooks.

The thing about all combat fundamentals is its skill based off timing, physics, leverage, etc time tested concepts that show an understanding of the science of the fight, and when you introduce PEDs into the mix and suddenly physics and leverage and timing and physical limits of your opponents body stop existing or mattering in the context of everything you throw at them well the most fundamentally sound fighter starts looking amateurish and like they never did the sport they were supposed to have been known to excel in.

Talk about his fundamentals all you want. I happen to think his backing straight up is his biggest problem, but I’m not gonna automatically pretend he’s exposed for technical flaws after he got caught by a bigger fighter on PEDs lol. It’s tainted.

He feels so much compassion for the POS "Mr. Garcia."
But the real victim, that "boy" Devin Haney gets the blame and the harsh criticism.
Hmmmmmmmmmm

 

[borntoloseNOT]

He feels so much compassion for the POS "Mr. Garcia."
But the real victim, that "boy" Devin Haney gets the blame and the harsh criticism.
Hmmmmmmmmmm

I’m not understanding his stance. The guy who he’s laying judgement and weight on battered Prograis all over the ring and absolutely humiliated him in his 140 debut, yet couldn’t get the respect or even a small hint he was getting through against a guy who historically had shown suspect chin and middle section, and was displaying some of the WORST fundamentals I’ve ever seen in a fight so let’s go and throw out the fundamentals horseshit while we’re at it, but back to that first part…

When we know he was well over weight, hadn’t cut, and PEDs to come in fully loaded on top of it, and he’s been caught and suspended and there’s no denying it, and fought like a moron all night, yet still looked like Superman, Lol okay, yeah, the PEDs didn’t help at all.

It was just a couple pounds and zero cut and drugs to make him a better performer in the ring, completely negligible, had no effect on the fight. Get over it Devin. Just rub some dirt on it.

It’s Devins fault for not working 24/7 exclusively on defending the left hook against bigger fighters on enhancements and simply making weight like a professional. How foolish. Ryan is a victim. I see the light now.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

I’m not understanding his stance. The guy who he’s laying judgement and weight on battered Prograis all over the ring and absolutely humiliated him in his 140 debut, yet couldn’t get the respect or even a small hint he was getting through against a guy who historically had shown suspect chin and middle section, and was displaying some of the WORST fundamentals I’ve ever seen in a fight so let’s go and throw out the fundamentals horseshit while we’re at it, but back to that first part…

When we know he was well over weight, hadn’t cut, and PEDs to come in fully loaded on top of it, and he’s been caught and suspended and there’s no denying it, and fought like a moron all night, yet still looked like Superman, Lol okay, yeah, the PEDs didn’t help at all.

It was just a couple pounds and zero cut and drugs to make him a better performer in the ring, completely negligible, had no effect on the fight. Get over it Devin. Just rub some dirt on it.

It’s Devins fault for not working 24/7 exclusively on defending the left hook against bigger fighters on enhancements and simply making weight like a professional. How foolish. Ryan is a victim. I see the light now.

You're making perfect logical sense to objective people.

I think the bigger question for intentionally dishonest people like him is:
Why the hell do you have a bleeding heart & compassion for a sexual harassing racist criminal cheat like Ryan? All Haney did was try his best, still took the fight when he should of just refused. Got beat up by a cheat. Tried to rematch with drug testing while seeking civil legal consequences against somebody who tried to fraud him.

Its legit like feeling compassion for the rapist as you victim shame the rape victim. As you tell the world how virtuous you are for having a heart for the rapist.
Ass fkn backwards & screams other motives.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

WOW. Was just about to take a snack break. Glad I didn't. Way to make up for the stupid car give away.