Elections DeSantis VS Newsom debate Tonight

What they need is totally unbiased moderators or people who can act like it an enforce equally down line. Last night I admit Desantis got the Obama treatment.
Yeah...I like DeSantis more then "Bang" your best friends wife Newsome but clearly Desantis got treated like Barry did during his debates.
 
I listened to about 15 minutes of it. Fuckin hell, why did they use Hannity as a moderator? He sucks. There's basically nothing factual being debated. It's just 2 guys shitting on each other's state. On a side note, Ron DeSantis' "smile" is so off-putting he really needs to stop, just for the optics alone.

Looks like Sheldon.
 
Yeah...I like DeSantis more then "Bang" your best friends wife Newsome but clearly Desantis got treated like Barry did during his debates.
Would have loved to of seen Desantis and Christie swap places last night. That would of been fun to watch but doubt Newsome would of had balls . I love Desantis substance but the dude just cannot think an speak on his feet off cuff without sounding luke a squeaky hall monitor.
 
Newsom did worse than he was expected to. Expectations for DeSantis were low because of his RNC debate performances and generally awful presidential campaign.

Watching David Pakman's stream, it was funny seeing Pakman go from excited as the debate started to bummed out in the middle while repeating "I'm not gonna lie, Newsom isn't doing as well as I expected"
 
I feel like this is the debate between two caricatures of the left and right ideology that sadly, may inherit the parties. As a liberal, I have to say Newsom is a fucking clown
 
That's crazy Its almost like every commercial that a Left leaning news org has is also Left leaning....Insane.
I actually plan to pay more attention to that, because that isn’t my perception. Granted, I don’t watch my news much (I prefer to read it from several sources), and I never watch shit like MSNBC. But I don’t recall commercials on CNN being that bad, but I could have a blind spot there and not notice it, I’m totally open to that idea.
What they need is totally unbiased moderators or people who can act like it an enforce equally down line. Last night I admit Desantis got the Obama treatment.
Man was it bad. After awhile I couldn’t help but laugh at the loaded questions and Hannity constantly cutting Newsom off.

Hannity: “On the topic of immigration, dozens of people cross the border from Mexico into California everyday. However, it says here that—*checks notes*—Zero people cross from Mexico into Florida. Gov DeSantis, would you like to bash this softball I teed up for you? Please take as much time as you want, so that I can cut Gov Newsom off as soon as he responds and tell him we’re out of time.”

It was pretty bad.
 
Newsom did worse than he was expected to. Expectations for DeSantis were low because of his RNC debate performances and generally awful presidential campaign.

Watching David Pakman's stream, it was funny seeing Pakman go from excited as the debate started to bummed out in the middle while repeating "I'm not gonna lie, Newsom isn't doing as well as I expected
I agree about Newsom’s performance. There are a lot of arguments against DeSantis’s points, and I felt Newsom left a lot of stuff on the table. I am not sure if he was unprepared, or maybe just didn’t want to come off as far left and divisive while trying to appeal to a FOX audience. But either way, he should’ve gone after DeSantis wayyy harder than he did.
 
Newsom did worse than he was expected to. Expectations for DeSantis were low because of his RNC debate performances and generally awful presidential campaign.

Watching David Pakman's stream, it was funny seeing Pakman go from excited as the debate started to bummed out in the middle while repeating "I'm not gonna lie, Newsom isn't doing as well as I expected"

That is the stream I listened too. He sounded quite sad lol.

Anyways, I missed the last 5 minutes where both apparently agreed to continue into overtime. Both politico and NBC now reporting, confirmed from multiple sources, that during the commercial break, Newsom’s wife ended it. Likely cause he was losing.

Imagine having to have your wife save you from Rod and Sean



 
I feel like this is the debate between two caricatures of the left and right ideology that sadly, may inherit the parties. As a liberal, I have to say Newsom is a fucking clown

I think he's been a really good governor (he's been right and effective on the No. 1 issue in the state, which is the housing shortage), and he's a good speaker. I know he has higher aspirations, but I don't think he'll get there.
 
I actually plan to pay more attention to that, because that isn’t my perception. Granted, I don’t watch my news much (I prefer to read it from several sources), and I never watch shit like MSNBC. But I don’t recall commercials on CNN being that bad, but I could have a blind spot there and not notice it, I’m totally open to that idea.

I don't watch MSNBC either, but CNN or other mainstream news would be different because while their audiences lean left and rightists at least think the content does, it's not primarily ideological in terms of the mission. CNN's biggest advertisers are usually just stuff focused toward old people, like insurance, various healthcare stuff (mostly drugs), nutrition stuff, etc.
 
I agree about Newsom’s performance. There are a lot of arguments against DeSantis’s points, and I felt Newsom left a lot of stuff on the table.
I felt basically exact opposite on that. But I'm glad it's just over. Neither are president worthy . Desantis has no clue how to public speak or think on feet n everything forced. An Newsome seems like a total slimy piece o shit that makes Trump al.ost look honest.
 
I felt basically exact opposite on that. But I'm glad it's just over. Neither are president worthy . Desantis has no clue how to public speak or think on feet n everything forced. An Newsome seems like a total slimy piece o shit that makes Trump al.ost look honest.
Haha I wouldn’t go *quite* that far with Newsom, but yeah I agree: DeSantis comes off like a sociopathic child, and Newsom comes off like a sleazeball.
 
I don't watch MSNBC either, but CNN or other mainstream news would be different because while their audiences lean left and rightists at least think the content does, it's not primarily ideological in terms of the mission. CNN's biggest advertisers are usually just stuff focused toward old people, like insurance, various healthcare stuff (mostly drugs), nutrition stuff, etc.
Yeah that’s my recollection too, but I’ll pay more attention to it just for grins. On FOX last night I swear I saw like 2 or 3 commercials about Jesus in a row.
 
Some fact checking:


Seems like Newsom was much more honest. What's the alternate take on that based on?
 
Ron’s team wondering how the hell they even agreed to get executed live on air. Y’all wanna see a dead body?
 
Newsom absolutely clowned DeSantis, but the facts were on his side for the most part, so he SHOULD have.

I don't quite get the purpose of this debate, though.
 
Newsom absolutely clowned DeSantis, but the facts were on his side for the most part, so he SHOULD have.

I don't quite get the purpose of this debate, though.

RDS was trying to save his dying campaign, Newsom was trying to raise his profile and also bring up some stuff to the Fox audience that they hadn't heard and should know.
 
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