International Deposing Maduro was a Massive Win

I just told the Venezuelan that dropped off my door dash not to be happy because western leftists know what’s better for them and that maduro is actually a good guy and he’s a scumbag sell out for leaving his homeland.
You got a TinMan to go with your StrawMan??
 
Easy there Mr. Mission Accomplished.

Let's see if Venezuela can transition to stable democratic leadership. If Maduro's regime just transitions power and we get another dictator holding power for the next 10-20 years, we are right back at square one.
 
I just told the Venezuelan that dropped off my door dash not to be happy because western leftists know what’s better for them and that maduro is actually a good guy and he’s a scumbag sell out for leaving his homeland.

"So I told them a Venezuelan dropped off door dash and that I said he shouldn't be happy."

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"I'm glad Maduro is gone because he's a bad guy, and I don't give a shit if this is legal or not, nor do I care what the potential fall out from this will be" would at least be the honest answer. :rolleyes:
That's exactly it. These people act only on emotion, they don't care about legality or following the law or doing things above board, it's "USA WE'RE FUCKING NUMBER ONE FUCK YOU WE'LL MURDER YOU." Trump and MAGA have tapped into all the incel losers that obsess with Call of Duty and hating women and anything that isn't white, so regardless of what happens, they're on board for it.

These are the same "God fearing religious people," who are religion in name alone and not in actions. They don't give a fuck about helping anyone, they occasionally pray to a God in case hell is real, as some kind of get-out-of-jail-free card or something, it's pathetic. They're loser human beings who don't care about anything.
 
Of course, it's about the resources, but it goes far beyond that.

What do you think China and Russia are doing there?

Venezuela also stole those means of production from international corporations, many US backed. Just now have a chief magistrate officer for the US enforcing our rights and international commerce law
 
That's exactly it. These people act only on emotion, they don't care about legality or following the law or doing things above board, it's "USA WE'RE FUCKING NUMBER ONE FUCK YOU WE'LL MURDER YOU." Trump and MAGA have tapped into all the incel losers that obsess with Call of Duty and hating women and anything that isn't white, so regardless of what happens, they're on board for it.

These are the same "God fearing religious people," who are religion in name alone and not in actions. They don't give a fuck about helping anyone, they occasionally pray to a God in case hell is real, as some kind of get-out-of-jail-free card or something, it's pathetic. They're loser human beings who don't care about anything.
I bet that played really good to all the middle aged single women you interact with on Reddit.
 
Delcy Rodriguez, the acting president of Venezuela, puts out a statement

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In other words... China, Russia.... I don't want to be on a plane in handcuffs and a blindfold.... also Mr. Rubio.... how would you like your coffee?

Perhaps TS nailed it. Massive win for Trump?
 
Delcy Rodriguez, the acting president of Venezuela, puts out a statement

In other words... China, Russia.... I don't want to be on a plane in handcuffs and a blindfold.... also Mr. Rubio.... how would you like your coffee?

Perhaps TS nailed it. Massive win for Trump?
Not necessarily. Venezuela gets something like 60-80% of its food from imports.

And its government must be in a chaotic state right now. Plus their oil is still sanctioned. If Trump doesn't help Venezuela with food aid, then this could turn ugly very quickly.

Also, US companies aren't jumping at the chance to invest in Venezuelan oil from what I see. They will almost certainly want to see stability and not from another dictatorship. This might not be an Iraq-style occupation, but it's likely to require the US to support Venezuela for years while they cooperate with the US. And if Trump gets bored and moves on and leaves them to starve, they will turn on him.
 
Venezuela also stole those means of production from international corporations, many US backed. Just now have a chief magistrate officer for the US enforcing our rights and international commerce law

Imagine being someone who believes that a Country stole its own resources from multi-National corporations.
 
Not necessarily. Venezuela gets something like 60-80% of its food from imports.

And its government must be in a chaotic state right now. Plus their oil is still sanctioned. If Trump doesn't help Venezuela with food aid, then this could turn ugly very quickly.

Also, US companies aren't jumping at the chance to invest in Venezuelan oil from what I see. They will almost certainly want to see stability and not from another dictatorship. This might not be an Iraq-style occupation, but it's likely to require the US to support Venezuela for years while they cooperate with the US. And if Trump gets bored and moves on and leaves them to starve, they will turn on him.

They'll be perfectly fine with a dictatorship so long as the dictator treats its resources the same way African dictators do. As long as the US gets austerity we dont really give a f*ck who is in power or how.
 
WTF is going on in 2026? @The XL is making sense and I'm running out of likes for his posts.

Looks like we're back to the Dubya Bush/neocon days with all the "Durrr, but Saddam was a bad guy! Don't you want a bad guy to go away? Why do you like bad guys??" arguments.

(With the exception that while Maduro was shitty, he had 1/20,000th the shittiness that Saddam had)
 
WTF is going on in 2026? @The XL is making sense and I'm running out of likes for his posts.

Looks like we're back to the Dubya Bush/neocon days with all the "Durrr, but Saddam was a bad guy! Don't you want a bad guy to go away? Why do you like bad guys??" arguments.

(With the exception that while Maduro was shitty, he had 1/20,000th the shittiness that Saddam had)
You can whatever you want about me, but I've always been consistent. I've always been against interventionism and illegal wars.
 
Trump is bum and U.S too.
Bummy loosers as Lukashenko had confirmed, 0 capacity or balls to fight vs peer level opponents. Money hungry puppies, Lukashenko had confirmed.

Trump had traveled to China to kiss XI hands and soon will kiss Kim hands because they told that does have nukes and might use them.
 
I was initially shocked that the US actually deposed Maduro by force. And did so easily in a 2 hour operation. I was picturing some years long guerilla war and pressuring the people under him to assassinate him.

Instead they did a perfectly executed surgical extraction with zero American soldiers killed or any aircraft downed. As a military operation, it was literally perfect and something Russia could only dream of achieving. Russia was trying to pull this off at the beginning of the Ukraine War, but failed miserably.

I did have mixed feelings about militarily interfering with a sovereign country, but I'm coming around to the fact that this will be a massive win for the United States.

It accomplishes several huge objectives.

Reinforces the Monroe Doctrine

1. For those that don't know what the Monroe Doctrine is - it is a US foreign policy position that opposes colonialism or any influence in the Western Hemisphere by other countries from Europe or elsewhere. It was originally against European colonialism - "GTFO out of here and we won't fuck with your Euro colonies."

2. Russia and Venezuela signed a Strategic Partnership and Cooperation Treaty in May 2025, formalizing deeper ties in energy, mining, transport, defense, and counterterrorism, driven by shared opposition to the U.S. China has invested over 100 billion into Venezuela since 2007 and also has treaties with Venezuela.

3. Both China and Russia has sold a significant amount of weapons to Venezuela over the last two decades.

Say bye bye to all of that. All their influence in Latin America just went down SUBSTANTIALLY.

4. The US just proved they're not playing around in protecting the Western Hemisphere.

Did Irreparable Harm to Chinese Influence

1. A Chinese delegation was literally meeting Maduro just hours before. Well what are they going to do about this? Absolutely jack shit - except publicly denounce it.

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2. China has been allying with dictators and leaders all over South America to get influence. Including building in Panama and buying ports there so they can have influence over the Panama Canal.

3. Well we just showed being China's partner doesn't mean protection. Instead it means EXPOSURE and a spotlight on you as an enemy of the #1 superpower.

Yea China might smile to you in front of cameras and promise you the world and give you money, but when you need it the most, they don't shield or protect you. They don't help militarily at all. They'll just step aside and ditch you when pressure escalates and issue a statement of strong protest the next day.


It just scared the shit out of any dictators or leaders that's thinking about allying with America's enemies

1. Maduro literally thought he could invite the US's number one adversary into their backyard and they would just allow him to erode their national security. He figured China would protect him when they inevitably retaliate. Well we're already seeing China and Russia will do jack shit to protect their "allies" in Latin America.

2. In one night, every single Latin American leader just realized it is time to decouple with China and align with the superpower in their hemisphere.

3. No dictator is actually concerned with the United States massive military because they know they realistically won't level their entire country and kill thousands to millions of people.

But they now know the US can (and will) surgically go into their country, kidnap the dictator (AND wife) in 2 hours and they have zero chance to even try to stop it - that is a much more scarier and realistic threat to any nation's leader than an unlikely dragged out war.

4. There is zero chance in hell China or Russia would have been able to pull something like this off. Maduro never sleeps in the same place every single night and he was housed in a heavily protected installation carved into the mountains when he was taken.

Yet the US took him and wife with ZERO casualties or aircrafts downed in 2 hours - air superiority, jamming and destroying all their radars, stealth, cyberwarfare, etc.

Literally no other country on Earth could have pulled this off other than the US.

It secures the largest oil reserves in the entire world and US national security for decades.

1. Quick history lesson - in the 90's, Venezuela opened up their oil industry to foreign investment because their companies did not have the technical expertise or funds to fully utilize their oil reserves. The US companies invested tens of billions in oil infrastructure. This was all seized and nationalized when Hugo Chavez came into power. Now presumably the US companies will be invited back.

2. Neighboring Guyana just discovered massive new oil reserves, which Maduro was trying to annex by force. Now the US companies will be developing them.

3. Coupled with the US's own substantial oil reserves, this will result in the US getting the CHEAPEST PRICES FOR GAS in the ENTIRE WORLD in DECADES. Most experts predicts this will happen once supply chains get established.

4. This will spur on substantial financial growth and most Americans are not going to give a shit about anything when they're paying $1.50-$2 a gallon.

5. Meanwhile, China is increasingly super insecure about oil and constantly looking for other sources. They are super dependent on other places for oil AND food while the US is self reliant for both.

6. All of the major industrial giants in the world - The EU, India, China, Japan, South Korea, etc. They're ALL heavily reliant on foreign oil. The US is completely self sufficient and now will have Venezuela as a favorable government right in their backyard.

Suffice to say, China will NEVER be able to supplant the US as the world's superpower due to their energy problem.

7. Lessons the influence of Saudi Arabia.

The actual Venezuelans in the country will eventually be among the richest in Latin America as it previously was before

1. Venezuelans were once among the richest people in Latin America, particularly after the 1920s oil boom turned Venezuela into the wealthiest nation in the region.

2. Before Huge Chavez came into power, they used to be one of the US's biggest allies with us selling them US weapons like F-16's. They were allies for decades.

3. Once the oil infrastructure is fixed, the oil revenue will greatly help the flagging Venezuelan economy and their citizens. Venezuela still has the largest oil reserves in the entire world by a very wide margin.

4. Lastly, Maduro was indeed a brutal dictator that completely ignored the results of their last election.

Everything that is being said about Venzuala and the oil being used to rebuild the country is THE EXACT SAME THING THAT WAS SAID ABOUT IRAQ.

THE U.S. MILITARY IS NOT EQUIPPED TO REBUILD COUNTRIES AND WE SPENT 2 TRILLION DOLLARS IN IRAQ.

The infrastructure investments needed to rebuild Venezuela are going to take more than a decade to pay off in optimistic scenarios.

The oil market is flooded with oil and there isn't even incentive by private companies to invest in any oil and gas infrastructure. The whole industry has been slowing to a halt over the last two years. We are probably in a global recession. There is no demand to rebuild anything in Venezuela for oil for probably 3 years at least.
 
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