Elections Democratic Party Approval at All Time Low

[GearSolidMetal]

You voted for Epstein's boyfriend, dude. Cope harder.

Why would I give a shit, Epstein-lover?

Oh this is so rich.

In a thread about Dems's approval numbers at all-time lows, and they're doubling down on the policies that caused their approval numbers to fall that low, the most intelligent response to it is 'But Trump is a phile.'

Sure bro.
That line didn't work in 2016, wasn't a factor in 2020, and sure as hell didn't work in 2024, so ya'll repeating it is an addition your side has no argument.


And another related subject ... Democrat donors that gave Kamala $1.5 Billion... are pissed because they were lied to about her chances and a large portion of that $1.5 Billion was wasted on bullshit that didn't move the needle, like $10+ million to Beyonce to give a 5 minute speech at a Kamala Rally in Houston... As if there was the slightest chance Kamala was ever going to take Texas.

Good luck to the DNC to get those same donors to give in huge numbers to candidates in 2026, or whomever the nominee is going to be in 2028.

 

[PEB]

 

[heloder]

In a thread about Dems's approval numbers at all-time lows, and they're doubling down on the policies that caused their approval numbers to fall that low

What policies have caused their approval numbers to fall that low?

 

[PEB]

What policies have caused their approval numbers to fall that low?

Making sure children have breakfast at school, helping homeless, being able to attend school, not moving Social Security to the stock market, boosting snap, low cost prescriptions. I guess that could be reason lol.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

What policies have caused their approval numbers to fall that low?

Gee whizzz.... Maybe you should do some research on that.

 

[heloder]

Gee whizzz.... Maybe you should do some research on that.

Couldn't help but notice you didn't answer the question.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Couldn't help but notice you didn't answer the question.

You're either faking ignorance or completely unaware that it'd take multiple paragraphs to sufficiently answer your question... And I don't believe you want a long and detailed answer with sources, because this thread is already full of them, and I don't want to waste my time.

And it's not like I want the Democrat Party to course-correct.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Couldn't help but notice you didn't answer the question.

That's because the question isn't legit and no matter what is said your response will be an insult or laughing gif.

The things you previously mentioned are indeed good things. But the price tag is pro trans , anti gun , criminal friendly and kinda soft on the border to name a few issues people have

The democrats often times have better policies ... but they piss people off with all the cultural shit and it costs them elections.

The solution seems very simple to me. All of that cultural shit matters to people , makes them feel under attack and is not a great way to make friends. I would love to run an experiment where someone is very progressive on economics and very rigid on culture and see what happens.

 

[heloder]

You're either faking ignorance or completely unaware that it'd take multiple paragraphs to sufficiently answer your question... And I don't believe you want a long and detailed answer with sources, because this thread is already full of them, and I don't want to waste my time.

Still not seeing a response. Why are you so scared to engage? I mean, I know a guy with over 60,000 posts must not have much free time on their hands, but surely you can indulge me with a few sentences explaining your position? It won't take but a minute.

That's because the question isn't legit and no matter what is said your response will be an insult or laughing gif.

How is the question not legit? He claimed the Democrats' approval rating is tanking because of unpopular policies. I asked him to name the policies. That shouldn't be difficult, right?

The things you previously mentioned are indeed good things.

I haven't posted in this thread prior. Are you referring to something or someone else?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Still not seeing a response. Why are you so scared to engage? I mean, I know a guy with over 60,000 posts must not have much free time on their hands, but surely you can indulge me with a few sentences explaining your position? It won't take but a minute

You're right, I'm a guy with 60K posts and have been debating in the Warroom since Obama's first term. So I'm very experienced in detecting if someone is actually curious and wants real answers, or if someone gets off in faking curiosity to baiting someone into wasting their time.

And if you search my threads I've made in the Warroom you'll find a plea for Leftists to drop the Trans issue because it will always be used against your side. Your side can't be trusted to find actual solutions to problems when you can't acknowledge publicly what a woman is.

I posted it to bait leftists because it is legitimate advice I really don't want to implement because it would improve their chances at winning elections.

But in doing so they'd become transphobic bigots.

 

[Scerpi]

What policies have caused their approval numbers to fall that low?

Well… deciding to not prosecute shoplifters and basically allow looting of stores…

Which then lead to stored closing and fleeing neighborhoods

People everywhere were pissed… except the looters of course.

Want me to go on?

Here’s a fun video where the mom thought the store might let her kids loot the store without legal trouble

Those days are gone

 

[heloder]

And if you search my threads I've made in the Warroom you'll find a plea for Leftists to drop the Trans issue because it will always be used against your side.

So that's your answer huh? You think Democrat approval ratings have tanked because of the "trans issue"? Well now we're getting somewhere!

So let's take a look at Democrat approval ratings over the last 8 years.

Largely unchanged among all voters until recently. In fact, In September 2024 their approval rating was roughly as high as it has been since before 2017.

So we're going to have to break it down a bit. Their approval among Independent voters has remained pretty steady, and is roughly what it was 8 years ago.

And Republican's view of Democrats has remained largely unchanged apart from when Trump got indicted for his many, many crimes in mid-late 2023. It went down about 14% between then and now.

So that leaves Democrat's view of Democrats.

Again, largely unchanged over the last 8 years, and with a big dip around the 2024 election loss. In fact, in September of 2024 their approval rating among Democrats was about as high as it has been in recent memory. And then it tanked with a roughly 16% drop. So why would it tank after an election loss, if it was caused by policy?

Answer? It wasn't. It was caused by political ineptitude and capitulation. Slow-walking Trump's legal cases resulted in an abortion of justice and contributed heavily to Trump's election victory. They have since capitulated several times to Trump since his victory. Those two things alone are largely responsible for Democrat voters turning against their own party. And Trump's legal issues are largely responsible for Republican voters (further) turning against the Democrats.

When you take the 16% drop among Democrats since the election and add the 14% drop among Republicans since Trump's legal issues, there's your drop.

Longer-term trends is another debate entirely.

Your side can't be trusted to find actual solutions to problems when you can't acknowledge publicly what a woman is.

This is good old fashioned lazy single-issue voter hand-waving. The Democrats have been far better for the economy than Republicans for as long as I've been alive (and probably a lot longer than that). The same is true for social issues, climate issues, science issues, education, war...et cetera. Saying "well none of that matters because of [Insert Republican Talking Point of the Day] is meaningless. Republicans have been doing the same thing for decades with abortion and gun rights. It's their red meat issues that they can wave in front of their base to distract from everything else going wrong.

How can I trust a mechanic to install a timing chain if he can't even acknowledge that anthropogenic climate change is real??

 

[GearSolidMetal]

So that's your answer huh? You think Democrat approval ratings have tanked because of the "trans issue"? Well now we're getting somewhere

That's one of several issues actually.

And after skimming the rest of your post you are exactly what I suspected you to be.... a 'debate me bro.'



You're trying to minimize the Democrats losses towards just a slight dip in favor ability ratings, when actually they've lost all swing states in the election, and in 2026 trends aren't looking great for them to regain the house & senate.... especially with a new sensus incoming.

 

[heloder]

And after skimming the rest of your post you are exactly what I suspected you to be.... a 'debate me bro.'

Yes, political and religious debate is what this forum is for. You say something stupid, I respond with a rebuttal proving you wrong, and you're supposed to either rebut my post in turn, or tuck dick and run (like you're doing).

That's kind of how this works.

You're trying to minimize the Democrats losses towards just a slight dip in favor ability ratings

I'm not sure that sentence makes sense, but in either case I'm not minimizing anything. The Democrats lost in 2024, and they are losing support* among their own demographic for the reasons I mentioned.

What I am doing is calling you out for (I assume) unintentionally misrepresenting that reality by saying their recent approval rating decline is due to policy. If you actually look at the statistics, that's obviously not the case.

*It's important to note that losing support does not necessarily mean losing supporters. I guarantee you if the vast majority of those people who stopped approving of the Democratic party were asked to vote between Harris and Trump again, virtually all of them would still vote Democrat. Just because they're pissed at their own party doesn't mean they support the opposing one. A distinction I'm sure is also lost on you.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Yes, political and religious debate is what this forum is for. You say something stupid, I respond with a rebuttal proving you wrong, and you're supposed to either rebut my post in turn, or tuck dick and run (like you're doing).

That's kind of how this works.

Turn dick and run?
You feinted curiosity.
Turned dick and run?
Your posts haven't been worth responding to, and ignoring factors like Trump's most effective ad in swing states was Kamala's comments about giving free transgender surgeries to convicts.
And those types of statistical graphs are the types that Democrat campaigns fund to self-echo their politics.
And I'm not even going to debate them... You think the Democrats are doing 100% fine and should change nothing, then by all means believe that.
But their gayest member of the party's actions & words speaks volumes that their internal polls about the trans issue tells a different story than those public polls you posted.

 

[heloder]

Turn dick and run?

Tuck* but yes. Like this:

Gee whizzz.... Maybe you should do some research on that.

I don't believe you want a long and detailed answer with sources, because this thread is already full of them, and I don't want to waste my time.

after skimming the rest of your post you are exactly what I suspected you to be.... a 'debate me bro.'

Your posts haven't been worth responding to

And those types of statistical graphs are the types that Democrat campaigns fund to self-echo their politics. And I'm not even going to debate them...

Amazing how you don't want to debate actual statistics. Those pesky things just don't seem to agree with you very often, do they?

You think the Democrats are doing 100% fine and should change nothing, then by all means believe that.

More straw men arguments with no basis in reality. There are several things that I think the Democrats should change; some of which I've already mentioned in this thread. Maybe instead of "skimming" posts you should try reading them.

But their gayest member of the party's actions & words speaks volumes that their internal polls about the trans issue tells a different story than those public polls you posted.

Yes, they would tell a different story, what with them being unrelated. But since their messaging vis a vis transgenderism (as well as their approval ratings) has remained largely unchanged for years, the sudden drop in approval post-election is obviously not related.

But if Pete or the rest of the Democratic leadership wants to step back from the trans issues then by all means. Stopping the Republicans from destroying the country is a far bigger concern right now, and if they think they can pick up more independents for the mid-terms, then I wouldn't disagree with that strategy. Transphobia and homophobia are still huge issues in this country, and probably will be for another 10-15 years, and that ought to be factored into a political campaign when the stakes are this high, and the division so stark.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Amazing how you don't want to debate actual statistics. Those pesky things just don't seem to agree with you very often, do they

Statistics publicly released as deceptive for a bullshit narrative.
They're as reliable as poll numbers with a very wide margin of error before major elections.

More straw men arguments with no basis in reality. There are several things that I think the Democrats should change; some of which I've already mentioned in this thread. Maybe instead of "skimming" posts you should try reading them

I'm agreeing with you, idiot.
I want you to believe the Democrats are doing everything 100% perfectly and nothing should change in terms of their policy proposals.

Keep supporting everything you supported in 2024 into 2026 & 2028.

Yes, they would tell a different story, what with them being unrelated. But since their messaging vis a vis transgenderism (as well as their approval ratings) has remained largely unchanged for years, the sudden drop in approval post-election is obviously not related.

But if Pete or the rest of the Democratic leadership wants to step back from the trans issues then by all means. Stopping the Republicans from destroying the country is a far bigger concern right now, and if they think they can pick up more independents for the mid-terms, then I wouldn't disagree with that strategy. Transphobia and homophobia are still huge issues in this country, and probably will be for another 10-15 years, and that ought to be factored into a political campaign when the stakes are this high, and the division so stark.

Now you're contradicting yourself.

If your statistics of Democrats & trans issues approval numbers were legit... Why would they 'step-back' from trans issues?

You think outspoken trans spokesthey/thems are going to allow Democrats to do that?

Why shouldn't Democrats double-down on trans-issues?
The 2028 Democrat Nominee should be Trans.

 

[heloder]

Now you're contradicting yourself.

If your statistics of Democrats & trans issues approval numbers were legit... Why would they 'step-back' from trans issues?

How is that a contradiction? The approval rating statistics do not show a downturn due to trans policy, but that isn't the same thing as saying you can't increase support by stepping back from trans issues. There are a lot of independent voters out there, and I'm sure the issue is a sticking point for many.

You think outspoken trans spokesthey/thems are going to allow Democrats to do that?

What do you mean by "allow"? If you mean "would they pitch a bitch fit" about it, then I'm sure some would, and they're more than welcome to do that. If Democrats lose more voters than they gain, then it will have been a mistake. If they gain more supporters than they lose, then it will have been worthwhile. That's really all there is to it. It wouldn't be a tacit betrayal of the trans community, though some of them would no doubt disagree with that assessment. It's about politics and not letting the enemy of the good be the perfect, which is something Democrats have struggled with for years. Civil rights shouldn't be a waiting game, but historically it has been, and unfortunately I believe it will continue to be for transgender people in this country, for the time being.

 

[MacGregor]

 

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