Elections Democrat Party dirty tricks exposed

[nhbbear]

Who do you think pays the tarrif?

Still not a tax on us directly

 

[Jack V Savage]

Still not a tax on us directly

What is the game here?

You've been playing dumb about tariffs so you can keep pretending it's not a tax on the poor and middle class and even making bizarre claims that other countries somehow pay it, but then you also deny supporting them? Why do you feel the need to lie about them if you aren't supporting them?

It's crazy how we have to forget everything we know if Trump says something stupid. It's like that Simpsons skit where Bart has super powers.

 

[Witchhunt]

I don't care about those dumb partisan stories. We're talking about something of actual substance.

Not caring about corruption, or should I say selectively caring about corruption in our domestic election process may not be a problem for you, but it seems like the American voter does care.
It’s a blind spot that the less pretentious find amusing and damaging to credibility..
It’s not the 90’s anymore.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Not caring about corruption, or should I say selectively caring about corruption in our domestic election process may not be a problem for you, but it seems like the American voter does care.

I don't think people should care about imaginary corruption ever. We should try to be reality focused on not give attention to the Taibbis and Hannitys of the world when they try to push these idiotic stories.

 

[Scerpi]

lol @ racket news

Grifter news was a little too on the nose, was it?

Such an idiot



Shave your head yet?

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Who pays Cenk? Is he funded by the Turkish gov? Independently wealthy? As long as he's been around I've always thought it was weird that anyone gave him much attention.

Or you could address the positions he has but I guess just character slander is easier.

 

[Andy Capp]

Who do you think pays the tarrif?

*Whom

 

[AWilder]

Or you could address the positions he has but I guess just character slander is easier.

I've never cared for him and not going to start now. I am legitimate curious who is finding him. Not that it's some CT, just curious.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I've never cared for him and not going to start now. I am legitimate curious who is finding him. Not that it's some CT, just curious.

Have you seen this doc?:



I think for a lot of people, following politics is like that. It's not analysis of fiscal policy or regs. It's this live-action role-playing game where you're fighting evil monsters by following the right podcasts and voting the right way. It's mostly rightists who are into the game (and entertainers like Taibbi, Hannity, Carlson, and Greenwald are tuned into it and making a killing providing new material), but Cenk plays to a leftists who want to get in on it. It seems like good, clean fun, but elections have real-world consequences.

 

[AWilder]

Have you seen this doc?:



I think for a lot of people, following politics is like that. It's not analysis of fiscal policy or regs. It's this live-action role-playing game where you're fighting evil monsters by following the right podcasts and voting the right way. It's mostly rightists who are into the game (and entertainers like Taibbi, Hannity, Carlson, and Greenwald are tuned into it and making a killing providing new material), but Cenk plays to a leftists who want to get in on it. It seems like good, clean fun, but elections have real-world consequences.

No, haven't heard of it, I'll give it a watch tonight.

 

[AWilder]

Still not a tax on us directly

It's a fee imposed by the government that the consumer pays for. I'm not sure why you think an extra step matters?


Call it whatever you want, it's the government artificially inflating the price of something and taking that cut. Kind of like a... Tax.

 

[Scerpi]

No. I remember Taibbi shitting the bed with Elon with the release of the twitter files.

You guys use this revisionist line too much.

He shit the bed with the Twitter files?

The fuck he did…

Who gives a fuck about Hunter now? Although that was a huge deal in Oct 2020

He absolutely exposed how the Biden Admin and the alphabet agencies pressured social media companies to censor doctors and users on Covid “misinformation”

Suppressing free speech. And many of those were banned turned out to be correct.

Hilarious how lefty clowns support censorship.

What the fuck happened to yall? How can you support what they did?

There’s a reason we call you NPC’s











Amazing speech by Matt Taibbi: "Two years ago, I was invited by Elon Musk to look at internal correspondence on Twitter.
And this led to a series of stories called the Twitter Files, whose main revelation was a broad government effort to suppress speech. I was invited here to talk about risks to the First Amendment, but to spare the suspense, that battle is already lost. State censorship is a fact in most of the West. In February, our European allies began observing the Digital Services Act, which requires internet platforms to enforce judgment of state-appointed content reviewers with the Orwellian name Trusted Flaggers. Everything that we found in the Twitter files can be reduced to one sentence. An alphabet soup of US government federal agencies, informally, is already doing pretty much the same thing as Europe's horrible draconian new law.
Is it against the law when a White House official calls Facebook and this happened and asked to ban a journalist for writing that the COVID vaccine doesn't stop infection or transmission? I think, hell yes, it certainly violates the spirit of the First Amendment, even if you can find judges will say it doesn't violate the letter. But this is post 9-11 America, whether it's about surveillance or torture or habeas corpus or secret prisons or rendition or any of a dozen other we ignore laws. Institutional impunity is the chief characteristic of our current form of government. We have concepts like illegal but necessary. The government can torture, of course the public can't, that's probably good. The state can intercept phone calls, you can't. The state can search without warrants, they can assassinate, snatch your geo locations from your cell phone, you require that officials have special permission to ignore laws when they feel like it. Ten years ago, we were caught spying on three different French presidents, as well as companies like BNP, Paribas, Credit Agri-Cole, Peugeot, Renault, and Total. Barack Obama called the French to apologize, but did we stop? No. But we did indict the person who released the news, Julian Assange. By the way, congratulations to Julian for getting out. Finally."

 

[AWilder]

The Twitter files were so successful that Matt and Elon are BFFs to this day...

 

[Jar of Flies]

Trump has managed to successfully redefine the concept of tariffs for half the country. When this new meaning fails to come to fruition, I for one am excited to see who or what that half blames for the shitty state of the economy. Smart odds are on the dEMieCraTs with an outside chance of it being the mysterious globalists.

 

[Witchhunt]

I don't think people should care about imaginary corruption ever. We should try to be reality focused on not give attention to the Taibbis and Hannitys of the world when they try to push these idiotic stories.

Whew.. now I get it.

 

[Lead]

Can you link somewhere that claims that tariffs are applied on other countries or that incidence doesn't fall on consumers?

Here's the first non-sponsored result I get when I search "who pays tariffs?" It’s not a controversial issue. Trump is the only person I've seen try to claim that other countries pay tariffs that we apply.

Again, if your view is that cutting taxes on the rich and raising them on everyone else is good, just say that. But you can't say that that's not the plan.

Another thing, is even his allies were all over Twitter after the Canada/ Mexico announcement calming people that this is all bargaining and he won’t really do it, heavily implying how damaging and stupid it would be. Sure, bargaining can get you places but that’s separate from acknowledging as an outside observer that tariffs aren’t that good.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

I checked investopedia:

One of the ways governments deal with trading partners they disagree with is through tariffs. A tariff is a tax imposed by one country on the goods and services imported from another country to influence it, raise revenues, or protect competitive advantages.

 

[nhbbear]

It's a fee imposed by the government that the consumer pays for. I'm not sure why you think an extra step matters?


Call it whatever you want, it's the government artificially inflating the price of something and taking that cut. Kind of like a... Tax.

Does it end up doing the same thing? Yes. It’s like convergent evolution in that sense, but it is not a tax you pay unless you buy the products, so it is more like a sales tax but it is imposed by the companies that jack up their prices to offset the fees put in place by the government.

 

[nhbbear]

What is the game here?

You've been playing dumb about tariffs so you can keep pretending it's not a tax on the poor and middle class and even making bizarre claims that other countries somehow pay it, but then you also deny supporting them? Why do you feel the need to lie about them if you aren't supporting them?

It's crazy how we have to forget everything we know if Trump says something stupid. It's like that Simpsons skit where Bart has super powers.

whoever imports the goods pays for it. They then pass it down to customers. It’s not a tax. If I said or implied that the countries pay the tariffs, then I misspoke. Let me ask you this to prove my point-if a rich person buys a car imported from china and there is a tariff in place, do they not pay for it if the importer passes the cost down? Yes. The answer is yes, so it’s not a tax, it is a cost passed down from the seller. They don’t have to pass it down, they can simply choose to make less money on whatever they are selling, but with a sales tax, they have zero option but to charge that sales tax. Tariffs are not a tax

 

[AWilder]

whoever imports the goods pays for it. They then pass it down to customers. It’s not a tax. If I said or implied that the countries pay the tariffs, then I misspoke. Let me ask you this to prove my point-if a rich person buys a car imported from china and there is a tariff in place, do they not pay for it if the importer passes the cost down? Yes. The answer is yes, so it’s not a tax, it is a cost passed down from the seller. They don’t have to pass it down, they can simply choose to make less money on whatever they are selling, but with a sales tax, they have zero option but to charge that sales tax. Tariffs are not a tax

you should probably look that up...

• A tariff or duty (the words are used interchangeably) is a tax levied by governments on the value including freight and insurance of imported products. Different tariffs applied on different products by different countries.

Import Tariffs & Fees Overview and Resources

Learn about a tariff or duty which is a tax levied by governments on the value including freight and insurance of imported products.

www.trade.gov