Elections Democrat 2016 Primary Thread: V2 It's Still Hillary Edition

[ucunc156]

How does that make sense? You don't believe that Clinton is truly committed to expanding financial regulation ... so you vote for a candidate that promises to repeal it and actually has the votes to deliver on that promise? You don't think she'll fight hard enough on the environment ... so you vote for a candidate that promises to roll back progress and can deliver (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/02/supreme-court-halts-obama-power-plan.html)? No, that will not be happening. The Benghazi/email silliness is what I'm talking about, and it's already priced in.

Self-identified independents are as reliably partisan as self-identified party members. Swings are really determined by turnout than by anyone changing their minds.

I would take that bet--and go big with it. Look at how they smeared Obama basically for having met people that they found to be objectionable.

The group of independents who align with bernie due to being anti establishment could easily side with trump (whether right or wrong). Its not a huge group, but its definitely a portion of it.

To your second point: true. The most unreliable demo? young voters. They may be galvanized behind bernie, but there's probably a good portion who would be disheartened/annoyed and not show up for hillary. An abstain is half as good as a vote for the other party and will hurt hillary.

To the third point, yeah there's none of those that Hillary has...

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Here’s who would be president if Facebook likes counted as votes
While it may not be an accurate representation of who will be the 45th president of the U.S., the interactive map includes some interesting statistics. Carson leads 27 states and was the top Republican candidate in 36 states, while Sanders lead 18 states but topped the Democrats in all 50 states.

http://www.cerveaux.dk/pics/london/seah03.gif

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Congressional Black Caucus PAC to endorse Clinton

Wow. This is surprising.

No one expected this.

I'm sure this will sway....whatever the group of people the Black Causus PAC are supposed to have credibility with... to choose the crusty old white woman, over the crusty old white man.

 

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[Lead]

The spin I've seen on this is he pays $12 instead of $15. Misguiding as fuck

 

[Anung Un Rama]

The spin I've seen on this is he pays $12 instead of $15. Misguiding as fuck

Actually you have it backwards.
This meme, which is accurate, is the result of researching the claim that he "only" pays his interns $12/hr.

So, yeah he only pays his interns $12/hr.
He's also the only candidates that pay his interns at all. And he's the guy relying on small donors.

 

[theBLADE1]

Actually you have it backwards.
This meme, which is accurate, is the result of researching the claim that he "only" pays his interns $12/hr.

So, yeah he only pays his interns $12/hr.
He's also the only candidates that pay his interns at all. And he's the guy relying on small donors.

BOOM

 

[Lead]

Actually you have it backwards.
This meme, which is accurate, is the result of researching the claim that he "only" pays his interns $12/hr.

So, yeah he only pays his interns $12/hr.
He's also the only candidates that pay his interns at all. And he's the guy relying on small donors.

Yea, that's what I'm saying. Completely spins the fact that he's the only one paying them anything to begin with.

 

[Lead]

BOOM

Neither of you understanding I was agreeing with you. Boom.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Yea, that's what I'm saying. Completely spins the fact that he's the only one paying them anything to begin with.

I thought that was what you might have meant, but wasn't certain.

 

[Lead]

I thought that was what you might have meant, but wasn't certain.

Probably cause I just said misguiding as fuck as a sentence on it's own but thought it explained itself. I didn't know one originated over the other though. Just saw the 12 to 15 one first which made seeing yours hilarious after.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Probably cause I just said misguiding as fuck as a sentence on it's own but thought it explained itself. I didn't know one originated over the other though. Just saw the 12 to 15 one first which made seeing yours hilarious after.

Neither did I. I had read both stories, but when i clicked on this meme, it explained which begot which.

 

[Lead]

Neither did I. I had read both stories, but when i clicked on this meme, it explained which begot which.

Look at Quipling's thread. Scalia was found dead.

 

[Lead]

Sanders supporters revolt against superdelegates

Bernie Sanders lost by a hair in Iowa and won by a landslide in New Hampshire. Yet Hillary Clinton has amassed an enormous 350-delegate advantage over the Vermont senator after just two states.

Outraged by that disconnect – which is fueled by Clinton’s huge advantage with Democratic superdelegates, who are not bound by voting results – Sanders supporters are fighting back.

 

[Lead]

Bernie Sanders’s Path To The Nomination

How much trouble will Hillary Clinton be in if she loses in Nevada, where Democrats will caucus on Saturday? How close does Bernie Sanders need to come in South Carolina, which votes a week later? And which states are really “must-wins” for Sanders in March, April and beyond?

We can try to answer all of those questions with the help of the gigantic chart you’ll see below.

 

[Lead]

Black Voters Reject Sanders as Clinton’s Nevada Firewall Holds

Hillary Clinton scrubbed the stain of her mortifying New Hampshire defeat from her campaign Saturday, blunting Bernie Sanders’s Nevada surge and dealing what may prove a mortal blow for his national campaign. It was by no means a blowout — with over three-quarters of precincts reporting, Clinton earned 52 percent of caucus-goer support to Sanders’s 48 percent. But it also wasn’t the razor-thin victory Clinton eked out in Iowa. For the first time, Clinton has proven she can win — and win convincingly — in the state her campaign long touted as her firewall.

 

[ucunc156]

Sanders won't make his projections on the first two states based on the chart above.

Does anybody wonder clinton's electability in the GE based on these demographics? Its great she wins all these southern states, but all of these states are going to go red anyway, so what's it matter? It shows a disconnect between the bulk of liberal states vs the nomination itself.

Swing states are Ohio, Colorado, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Virginia, and Florida. Both the dems and republicans should really elect their candidate based on this as other states fall in place. Interesting that hillary won nevada, sanders new hampshire, with iowa being a split. Colorado looks to be the only state on this list that Sanders has a clear path at winning, but would be interesting to see what happens if it goes in reverse.

 

[lapollarecords]

Bernie Sanders: "Hillary Clinton represents the establishment"
Hillary Clinton: "How can I represent the establishment? I'm a woman running to be the first woman president"
wtf has being a woman to do with whose interests you represent?

I usually don't watch these debates (other than a few videos of Trump humiliating Bush), is Hillary's whole campaign based on "I'm the first woman running for president"? if they win with that, what's next? they need a a gay guy to represent their interest?

 

[Possum Jenkins]

I usually don't watch these debates (other than a few videos of Trump humiliating Bush), is Hillary's whole campaign based on "I'm the first woman running for president"? if they win with that, what's next? they need a a gay guy to represent their interest?

It's actually not.

The gender thing gets thrown out there every once in a while but it's really not a big factor. The big thing in her campaign is how she "can get things done" because her proposals are realistic while Bernie's are too far-fetched. So free college and universal healthcare are too wild for the US... AND to even bring them up will apparently cause conservatives to win or something.

 

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