Elections Democrat 2016 Primary Thread: V2 It's Still Hillary Edition

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Ohio Judge Lets 17-Year-Olds Vote in Primary in Sanders Win

Ohio must let 17-year-olds vote in the state’s March 15 primary, if they turn 18 by Election Day, a judge ruled in a boost to Bernie Sanders.

Sanders’s surprise win over Hillary Clinton in the Michigan primary this week was driven in part by his popularity with younger voters, many of whom are attracted to his call for an economic revolution against the wealthy elite. Sanders got the support of 81 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds in the Michigan primary, according to CNN’s exit polls.

Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, reinterpreted a decades-old law by describing the primary as an election of delegates, rather than a nomination. Ohio doesn’t let voters under 18 directly elect people, Husted said.

 

[ucunc156]

Just voted for Bernie before work!

I live in a pretty heavily republican area. 4 other people voted while I was there. 3 republicans, 1 democrat. The democrat was a 40ish year old woman, so I have no idea where she leaned.

 

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Just voted for Bernie before work!

I live in a pretty heavily republican area. 4 other people voted while I was there. 3 republicans, 1 democrat. The democrat was a 40ish year old woman, so I have no idea where she leaned.

Our first Sherdog exit poll is out. Some breaking headlines here. Half of democrat turnout middle age women. Also, GOP turnout 150% of Democratic turnout.

Man, I'm annoyed how late Pennsylvania is. Must feel great voting on a day like this. I'd argue this day is more important than Super Tuesday was.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

I'd argue this day is more important than Super Tuesday was.

Why , the winner take all states or because you think there will be more clarity tomorrow?

 

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Why , the winner take all states or because you think there will be more clarity tomorrow?

A little of both. Super Tuesday had double the delegates but I think the before picture was clear that Trump was going to win a lot and Cruz needed Texas. Tonight, more states matter and they are winner take all states too.

 

[ucunc156]

Our first Sherdog exit poll is out. Some breaking headlines here. Half of democrat turnout middle age women. Also, GOP turnout 150% of Democratic turnout.

Man, I'm annoyed how late Pennsylvania is. Must feel great voting on a day like this. I'd argue this day is more important than Super Tuesday was.

Lol well turns out GOP turnout was even greater than 150% of democratic turnout. And yes I know you're kidding, I got a good chuckle out of it. I hope you weren't thinking I was saying what i saw in 5 minutes was representative?

But yeah voting yesterday felt really cool. And then the results came in on the democrat side.

 

[UpaLoompa]

Lol well turns out GOP turnout was even greater than 150% of democratic turnout.

This actually seems to pretty commonly be the case in primaries. That pattern hasn't been predictive in the past but given the general apathy amongst young voters for Clinton it is still concerning vis-a-vis the GE.

 

[ucunc156]

yeah, I will begrudgingly vote clinton come GE, but as someone who is easily confused for Latino or Arab, I feel much more passionate about anti trump than the everyday young voter.

 

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Lol well turns out GOP turnout was even greater than 150% of democratic turnout. And yes I know you're kidding, I got a good chuckle out of it. I hope you weren't thinking I was saying what i saw in 5 minutes was representative?

But yeah voting yesterday felt really cool. And then the results came in on the democrat side.

I was just being funny. Missed the mark.

 

[ucunc156]

I thought so, and like I said, I chuckled. I wish everyone delivered their own exit poll on this site once done voting. It would be a complete shit show.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

Bernie can still win. He just strategically ceded the south and is going to aim for a comeback in the Pacific Northwest, west coast, and Midwest. After that Bernie just needs to string up wins in the north east and last fringe southern states.

 

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Sanders Says Fundraising Jab Shows Clinton 'Getting Very Nervous'

As the race for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination heats up, Hillary Clinton made a rare jab at Bernie Sanders for not being a longtime member of the party and for not fundraising for other Democrats - and Sanders said the comment suggests the former secretary of state is getting nervous.

"I am also a Democrat and have been a proud Democrat all my adult life,” Clinton said at a campaign event in Eau Claire, Wisconsin, on Saturday. "And I think that's kind of important if we're selecting someone to be the Democratic nominee of the Democratic Party.”

It’s Really Hard To Get Bernie Sanders 988 More Delegates

After a trio of landslide wins in Washington, Alaska and Hawaii on Saturday — the best single day of his campaign — Bernie Sanders narrowed his delegate deficit with Hillary Clinton. But he still has a lot of work to do. Sanders trails Clinton by 228 pledged delegates and will need 988 more — a bit under 57 percent of those available — to finish with the majority.

That alone wouldn’t be enough to assure Sanders of the nomination because superdelegates could still swing things Hillary Clinton’s way in a close race, but put aside that not-so-small complication for now. The much bigger problem is that it isn’t easy to see where Sanders gets those 988 delegates.

 

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Bernie Sanders Is Even Less Competitive Than He Appears

Bernie Sanders’s supporters are fond of the hypothesis that Democratic superdelegates, the elected leaders and party officials who currently support Hillary Clinton by a lopsided-doesn’t-even-begin-to-describe-it 469 to 31, are going to bow to the “will of the people” if Sanders ends up winning more pledged delegates than Clinton by June.

There’s just one hiccup in this logic: Sanders fans seem to be conflating the pledged delegate count and the “will of the voters,” when in fact the two are far from interchangeable.

 

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Sanders’s Vatican Invitation Sparks Accusation of ‘Discourtesy’

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders’s plan to attend a Vatican-sponsored conference put him in the middle of a diplomatic row as a senior Vatican official accused the senator of showing “monumental discourtesy” in angling for an invitation that puts a political cast on the gathering.

Sanders, whose foreign policy experience is under attack by competitor Hillary Clinton, said Friday he was “very excited” to have been invited to the conference on economic and social issues hosted by a pontifical academy in Rome on April 15. It will put him at the seat of the Roman Catholic Church four days before the New York primary.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

I heard yesterday that Sanders could win all the remaining primaries and still come up short with delagates.

 

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I heard yesterday that Sanders could win all the remaining primaries and still come up short with delagates.

Not sure about that because of how delegates are allocated but maybe in terms of popular vote this is true. Both races are really becoming New York and California at this point. Fivethirtyeights path for Bernie's nomination actually has him trying to get more delegates than Hillary in New York. I think that state is going to be the clear nail in the coffin that he at least can't win this outright with election delegates and would need a swing with super delegates overwhelmingly. I do want to know how he plays the ending since things are getting more tense. Makes me wonder if he even cares about a VP spot or is it nomination or bust for him. He is older and may not want that position if he thinks he can't accomplish the change he wants.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Needs more negative headlines about Bernie

 

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Bernie Sanders Wins Wyoming; Another In The Row

http://latestnews5.com/index.php/2016/04/09/bernie-sanders-wins-wyoming-another-in-the-row/

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ratic-caucus-results-live-polls-election-2016

 

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Clinton foundation received up to $81m from clients of controversial HSBC bank

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/10/hillary-clinton-foundation-donors-hsbc-swiss-bank

The charitable foundation run by Hillary Clinton and her family has received as much as $81m from wealthy international donors who were clients of HSBC’s controversial Swiss bank.

Leaked files from HSBC’s Swiss banking division reveal the identities of seven donors to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation with accounts in Geneva.

They include Frank Giustra, a Canadian mining magnate and one of the foundation’s biggest financial backers, and Richard Caring, the British retail magnate who, the bank’s internal records show, used his tax-free Geneva account to transfer $1m into the New York-based foundation.

Hillary Clinton has expressed concern over growing economic inequality in the US and is expected to make the issue a cornerstone of her widely anticipated presidential campaign in 2016. However, political observers are increasingly asking whether the former secretary of state’s focus on wealth inequality sits uncomfortably with the close relationships she and her husband have nurtured with some of the world’s richest individuals.

Giustra’s Swiss HSBC account, created in 2002, contained up to $10m in the 2006-2007 period. Lawyers for the mining magnate said that he held the account for investment purposes, and that it was in compliance with Canadian laws that required disclosure of foreign assets.

Caring was legitimately permitted to keep his assets offshore by a hereditary quirk of UK tax law, under which he is registered as “non-domiciled”, courtesy of his Italian-American father. The HSBC records suggest Caring’s $1m donation was paid in return for former president Bill Clinton’s attendance at a lavish costume charity ball organised by Caring in St Petersburg, Russia.

Another Clinton foundation donor who had a HSBC account in the tax haven is Jeffrey Epstein, the hedge fund manager and convicted sex offender who once flew the former president on his private jet for charity events in Africa.

The identities of Clinton supporters who banked with HSBC in Geneva are contained in internal bank data leaked by a HSBC computer expert turned whistleblower, Hervé Falciani.

 

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Needs more negative headlines about Bernie

TBH, my posting are reflections of Politico, Bloomberg and FiveThirtyEight's headlines for the most part. Most of the media isn't posting optimistic stuff. This thread is meant to encourage multiple posters to provide content we all can get different perspective of the general race from. I just keep up with the content I see continually. See this thread as an anti-echo chamber effect for all posters watching the race. All perspectives and constructive content encouraged.