Elections Democrat 2016 Primary Thread: V2 It's Still Hillary Edition

Who do you want to win?/ Who do you think will win? (Pick one of each)

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lol if the DNC thought that Bernie fans were mad about establishment pushing Hilary, there is no way they would think parachuting in Bloomberg would be the solution to that issue lol.

I find the panic about not getting Bernie fans out for the GE vote if Hillary is the nom very interesting and possibly true. Hillary fans will support Bernie, but the same can't be said in reverse.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
This woman is 49 years old, wearing makeup, and knew she was about to appear before national news networks... and she looks like that?

She must smoke three packs a day since she was twelve.
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FWIW, as liberal as I lean, I can't stand DWS!
 
Bill Clinton Unleashes Stinging Attack on Bernie Sanders
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Bill Clinton uncorked an extended attack on SenatorBernie Sanders on Sunday, harshly criticizing Mr. Sanders and his supporters for what he described as inaccurate and “sexist” attacks onHillary Clinton.

“When you’re making a revolution you can’t be too careful with the facts,” Mr. Clinton said, deriding Mr. Sanders’s oft-mentioned call for a political revolution.

The former president, addressing a few hundred supporters at a junior high school here, portrayed his wife’s opponent for the Democratic nomination as hypocritical, “hermetically sealed” and dishonest.
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this "sexism" attack is reminiscent of the Clinton campaign playing the race and birther cards against Obama in '08.


Hillary is scared AF.
 
Anung Un Rama said:
this "sexism" attack is reminiscent of the Clinton campaign playing the race and birther cards against Obama in '08.


Hillary is scared AF.
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To be honest it's a smart play right now with the way things are with feminism and all that.
 
method115 said:
To be honest it's a smart play right now with the way things are with feminism and all that.
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Perhaps if it were more subtle, but they've gone full-Florida on this angle. I can't see it doing anything but backfiring at this point.
 
Anung Un Rama said:
Perhaps if it were more subtle, but they've gone full-Florida on this angle. I can't see it doing anything but backfiring at this point.
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That's a very real possibility as well. I'm never sure how things will go when someone stats playing that card.
 
At this point I dont think Hillary is electable. You can trivialize benghazi, the emails, fine. You can say 2002 iraq was a mistake, fine. You can say payment fees for speeches dont matter, fine. You can say the people who witnessed such speeches arent representative, fine. You can say her being so late to tpp denouncement, going against keystone pipeline and being pro gay marriage are all irrelevant. But combine all of those things, and thats one hell of a narrative to overcome, and thats not even getting into her public persona and lack of personality and views of being disingenuous at best, liar at worst.
 
ucunc156 said:
At this point I dont think Hillary is electable. You can trivialize benghazi, the emails, fine. You can say 2002 iraq was a mistake, fine. You can say payment fees for speeches dont matter, fine. You can say the people who witnessed such speeches arent representative, fine. You can say her being so late to tpp denouncement, going against keystone pipeline and being pro gay marriage are all irrelevant. But combine all of those things, and thats one hell of a narrative to overcome, and thats not even getting into her public persona and lack of personality and views of being disingenuous at best, liar at worst.
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That's exactly the right's long-term strategy. Make up a bunch of bullshit attacks and even if they all get refuted, it creates a narrative that sticks. What makes people think that Clinton is really electable is that they've already done it, the narrative has stuck with some people, and she's still the frontrunner. Sanders has not yet been run through the smear machine. No telling how effective it would be (especially with less time), but you have to think it would have *some* negative effect, meaning that his current polling probably overstates how he'd do in a general.
 
ucunc156 said:
lol if the DNC thought that Bernie fans were mad about establishment pushing Hilary, there is no way they would think parachuting in Bloomberg would be the solution to that issue lol.

I find the panic about not getting Bernie fans out for the GE vote if Hillary is the nom very interesting and possibly true. Hillary fans will support Bernie, but the same can't be said in reverse.
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According to pretty much every poll, about 70% of Bernie supporters would support Clinton if Bernie drops out.

I get that people on these boards do not like Clinton, but they really underestimate how much the average Democrat still likes her.
 
SidJustice said:
According to pretty much every poll, about 70% of Bernie supporters would support Clinton if Bernie drops out.

I get that people on these boards do not like Clinton, but they really underestimate how much the average Democrat still likes her.
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The difference between the wider perception of Clinton and her favourability and what is presented on this forum does seem significant, and the argument that she would make a strong candidate as she has such favourability still, despite YEARS of concerted effort (by generally the same people she would be facing attacks from as a Presidential candidate) to try and lower that, makes sense to me.
 
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