Deadlifts and milkshakes

[Jester]

205 is my max for deads, and 105 is my max for bench although I know I can bench more than that. That's just what I've done. Maybe you're right. They are too close together.

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i dont know, i think im going to to 88-90 percent for my first attempt and then 95-97% for my second, then 101-103 for my third........i dont know if i would make my first attempt 100%......you can always change it after your first attempt. i would just do something around 90% and see how it feels

 

[Jester]

If 205 is your max for deads, you certainly do not open with it. Particularly at your first meet. Your openers are 100% guaranteed to get you on the board. You should be able to make them in your sleep. During an earthquake. Underwater. On fire, if necessary.

agreed.....with the guy that has 50,000 times more experience then me

 

[WitchCraft]

If 205 is your max for deads, you certainly do not open with it. Particularly at your first meet. Your openers are 100% guaranteed to get you on the board. You should be able to make them in your sleep. During an earthquake. Underwater. On fire, if necessary.

Yeah I saw that in the article. I swear I read it! LOL these were just my old goals. I still have no idea what I'm doing but I'm learning everyday.

So what do you think? 185? I haven't failed with 185...ever. Too low?

And when you said in the article that if you miss a lift you're out of the competition...what happens if you miss your third attempt? What about the first two attempts? Do they not count or did I misinterpret that?

 

[Eric Brown]

Yeah I saw that in the article. I swear I read it! LOL these were just my old goals. I still have no idea what I'm doing but I'm learning everyday.

So what do you think? 185? I haven't failed with 185...ever. Too low?

And when you said in the article that if you miss a lift you're out of the competition...what happens if you miss your third attempt? What about the first two attempts? Do they not count or did I misinterpret that?

You get three attempts at each lift. You must make one of each. You can miss your third, as long as you make your first or second.

To successfully complete a full meet, you must get one passing squat, bench press and deadlift.

As to what you should start with, you are still far enough out that right now you just need to focus on getting stronger. You can do a lot in six weeks or so (unless I mis-read it), so worrying too much about the meet takes focus off what you are doing now.

 

[WitchCraft]

You get three attempts at each lift. You must make one of each. You can miss your third, as long as you make your first or second.

To successfully complete a full meet, you must get one passing squat, bench press and deadlift.

Okay, that makes more sense to me.

As to what you should start with, you are still far enough out that right now you just need to focus on getting stronger. You can do a lot in six weeks or so (unless I mis-read it), so worrying too much about the meet takes focus off what you are doing now.

I REALLY needed to hear that. This meet has been great in keeping me lifting regularly and motivated in general but it's definitely affecting my mood at the gym. When I miss a rep or tweak something, I've been getting really hung up on it and upset. But you've provided me with a lot of inspiration to just get stronger and stop worrying. Thank you!

 

[Eric Brown]

Okay, that makes more sense to me.



I REALLY needed to hear that. This meet has been great in keeping me lifting regularly and motivated in general but it's definitely affecting my mood at the gym. When I miss a rep or tweak something, I've been getting really hung up on it and upset. But you've provided me with a lot of inspiration to just get stronger and stop worrying. Thank you!

No problem.

Think of it this way: I have missed more lifts that you have attempted. Shit happens. Move on.

 

[Jester]

I REALLY needed to hear that. This meet has been great in keeping me lifting regularly and motivated in general but it's definitely affecting my mood at the gym. When I miss a rep or tweak something, I've been getting really hung up on it and upset. But you've provided me with a lot of inspiration to just get stronger and stop worrying. Thank you!

yeah i think i needed to hear that too, same thing has been happening to me too, im waaay too focused on the meet and not focused enough on my training

edit: you going to have any vids of your meet?

 

[WitchCraft]

yeah i think i needed to hear that too, same thing has been happening to me too, im waaay too focused on the meet and not focused enough on my training

edit: you going to have any vids of your meet?

Yeah, I should. Fingers crossed, someone will be there to tape my lifts.

 

[Jester]

Yeah, I should. Fingers crossed, someone will be there to tape my lifts.

yeah im crossing my fingers too, i definately want some vids since its my first comp

 

[WitchCraft]

10/9/11

Power clean
65 x 3
65 x 3
65 x 3
65 x 3
65 x 3

Deadlift
115 x 3
115 x 3
145 x 1 x 15 (approximately 1:00 min rests)

Good mornings

squats

Notes: First day of the new deadlift program. I usually deadlift on Mondays but I feel a cold coming on and wanted to get it done before I felt really terrible. I think it went well. It was pretty easy and I tried to focus on making each rep explosive as possible.

I fucked around with my form on squats and discovered that I feel minimal pain with my feet closer together.

 

[Keosawa]

Thanks Keosawa. I decided not to cut weight because after dieting for two weeks, I think I lost a pound in total. I just didn't see myself maintaining strength while losing weight so now I eat whatever the hell I want and focus on getting stronger. I've come to terms with the fact that I won't be the stronger girl in my weight class but as long as I come close to my goals, I'll be happy.

I might have to pick your brain when it comes closer to meet time. I really have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to picking attempts, how to warm up day of, etc.

If/when you have questions, stop by my training log and ask away.

 

[Keosawa]

Also: treat your opener like your last warm-up. This maxim gets thrown around a lot, but rarely is it taken to heart.

If you have a goal for this meet--to, say, set a PR--then you should treat your opener like the last warm-up you'd use before attempting that PR. If you want to deadlift 210 for your second attempt, I would put your opener in the 180-185 range, as others have suggested. If you haven't missed it ever, then that's all the more reason to use it.

At the end of the day, your opener should be a springboard towards a good, heavy second attempt, and a second attempt should lead to an all-out, gut-check third attempt. But keep some perspective: you and I are both relatively small lifters, and in the grand scheme of things, are numbers aren't that high. The difference for us between 85% and 95% is a matter of a few pounds. For you, twenty pounds separates a 95% lift from an 85% lift. That's so inconsequential that there's nothing to lose in taking away another five or ten pounds to make an opener even easier. It's not like we're 1300-lb. squatters who would be dropping 100 lbs. off an opener to drop from 95% to 85%.

So, stay in the 180-185 lb. range. If your meet goes as planned, your openers won't count as your best lifts anyway, so why even worry about how much they are?

 

[WitchCraft]

Also: treat your opener like your last warm-up. This maxim gets thrown around a lot, but rarely is it taken to heart.

If you have a goal for this meet--to, say, set a PR--then you should treat your opener like the last warm-up you'd use before attempting that PR. If you want to deadlift 210 for your second attempt, I would put your opener in the 180-185 range, as others have suggested. If you haven't missed it ever, then that's all the more reason to use it.

At the end of the day, your opener should be a springboard towards a good, heavy second attempt, and a second attempt should lead to an all-out, gut-check third attempt. But keep some perspective: you and I are both relatively small lifters, and in the grand scheme of things, are numbers aren't that high. The difference for us between 85% and 95% is a matter of a few pounds. For you, twenty pounds separates a 95% lift from an 85% lift. That's so inconsequential that there's nothing to lose in taking away another five or ten pounds to make an opener even easier. It's not like we're 1300-lb. squatters who would be dropping 100 lbs. off an opener to drop from 95% to 85%.

So, stay in the 180-185 lb. range. If your meet goes as planned, your openers won't count as your best lifts anyway, so why even worry about how much they are?

Yeah I hear ya. What if I plan on my 2nd and 3rd attempt being a PR? For example:

1: 185
2: 210
3: 225

I've never pulled over 205 before. I would hate to miss both of those attempts. Arlecchino is going to yell at me for over thinking this.

 

[Jester]

as long as you arent disappointed when you only get 185 and leave pounds on the table

 

[Jester]

im doing the same thing though, im waaaay overthinking it, just need to make it super simple on myself

 

[DrBdan]

Good luck with the comp, they sound like fun. This thread is full of good info:

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f13/powerlifters-guide-attempt-selection-978250/

 

[Keosawa]

It's always a gamble. Ask yourself this:

"What's the lowest I could total in a given lift and still leave satisfied?"

Make that your second attempt. If it's PR or die, make it 210. If you'd be OK walking away with a 200-lb. pull, make it 200. My second attempt is usually at the point where anything less for me would be a disappointment.

 

[Eric Brown]

"What's the lowest I could total in a given lift and still leave satisfied?"

Always seems like more than I wound up actually totaling. Funny, that.

 

[WitchCraft]

Good luck with the comp, they sound like fun. This thread is full of good info:

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f13/powerlifters-guide-attempt-selection-978250/

Thanks dude.

It's always a gamble. Ask yourself this:

"What's the lowest I could total in a given lift and still leave satisfied?"

Make that your second attempt. If it's PR or die, make it 210. If you'd be OK walking away with a 200-lb. pull, make it 200. My second attempt is usually at the point where anything less for me would be a disappointment.

It is PR or die. I would be really disappointed with myself otherwise.

 

[WitchCraft]

10/13/11
(much needed) deload week

Squat
bar x 10
bar x 10
bar x 10

Bench
bar x 10
55 x 5
65 x 5
75 x 5
85 x 5

Notes: Squats felt AWESOME. I could actually squat down without pain. SUCCESS.