Deadlifts and milkshakes

[Keosawa]

Sorry to hear the seminar sucked. If somebody pays my airfare and gives me a place to sleep, I'll go out there and do a seminar for free.

 

[WitchCraft]

That would be VoodooPlata, his log's called Bang your head.
I have been gym training sporadically for a few years, but it's only now I'm making real progress and successfully targeting problems. Started out with lots of cable and machine workouts, with different focus each active weightlifting period.

Oh okay, cool! And I know that feel of wasting time in the gym.

Deadlift suit? This is very advanced lulz-based programming. Impressive.

I have a feeling I won't be using it for a while. I have burst blood vessels and small horizontal cuts across my thighs. Not a pleasant experience.

Yeah, it's wrong... you don't jump. Zillions of videos out there showing all the top class lifters not jumping. You can't get your ass under the bar fast if your ass is stuck up in the air somewhere.

I don't know anything about this. Goon's about to share his Rippetoe cult input. Stay tuned.

Sorry to hear the seminar sucked. If somebody pays my airfare and gives me a place to sleep, I'll go out there and do a seminar for free.

I'll bring it up with the gym owner. He has seminars often. What are some topics you could do a seminar on? Most of the people at this gym are soccer moms. There are maybe two people that actually train specifically for powerlifting so I'm not sure how high the interest would be for a powerlifting seminar. But that could actually be the exact opposite: they might want a seminar on powerlifting to help them get into the sport.

 

[WitchCraft]

4/28/2013

PAUSED Bench
bar x 10
65 x 5
88 x 5
93 x 3
100 x 3
105 x 2
105 x 2
105 x 2

Press (with the women's bar)
bar x 10
50 x 7
50 x 7
50 x 7

Ring rows
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10

Balls to the wall C2 Rower...2:11 min. I tried so hard to break 2 min today. Damn. I physically cannot go any faster haha

Notes: BW is increasing rapidly. I've put on some muscle from the new diet. Will post a progress photo tonight.

 

[eastNYgoon138]

First of all, I find it hilarious how much drama Rippetoe causes. Guy wrote a few extremely useful books and developed technically sound ways to teach the big lifts to beginners. Lots of people in the biz are real jelly they aren't as successful. But I do think his success says something about his technique philosophy. It's not like he's a marketing genius. Starting Strength became popular through word of mouth and message boards. That's as real as it gets. Someone found his stuff useful, and passed the word along. And it happened over and over. No commercials, no internet adds, just lifters talking to lifters.

There is most certainly a "jump" in the power clean. We've all seen low, mid and high level weightlifter's feet leave the floor when cleaning. An explosive triple extension followed by the feet leaving the floor sure looks like a jump to me. Maybe we have different definitions of what a jump is. If that's the case, I just don't care. Semantics get in the way teaching beginners how to get strong.

 

[Fighting Sprite]

lol, I think our gym owner would be confused. This was one of a series of 3 seminars and they generally received positive feedback

You don't have to tell the truth during your scene. In fact you'd probably have a better chance if you called racism, sexism or any other ism. You could also say you heard the coaches whispering about a planned bombing and tell him you don't want to support terrorists. Tell them she touched you in your special place. The possibilities are endless.

 

[miaou]

I'm uploading a video of the cleans now.

 

[WitchCraft]

I lol'd. Sorry I haven't posted it yet, things have been chaotic here.

4/29/2013

Warm up
C2 Rower 2:23, slowwww
BW squats

Squat
bar x 10
65 x 5
88 x 5
110 x 5
132 x 5
140 x 5
140 x 5
140 x 5
140 x 5
140 x 5

Barbell good mornings
Bar x 10
65 x 5
88 x 5
88 x 5
88 x 5

Band adductions
x 10
x 10
x 10

Notes: Real tired today. Last night, around 9pm, Steve was having some severe abdominal pain that he's had for a few days and its been escalating. I ended up having to take him to the ER about 30 minutes away from our house. I didn't get home until midnight, and then had to get up early so I was EXHUASTED when training today. Squats felt heavy and slow, but I'm pretty sure that's my 5x5 PR right now. I'm happy with where my squats are going!

 

[Modern Warrior1]

What was wrong?

 

[WitchCraft]

What was wrong?

The doctors weren't very helpful with a diagnosis. They ran some blood tests to see if he was passing any stones, and apparently he is not. They also ruled out any gallbladder issues or appendicitis. Who knows. Hopefully, it just passes soon and it was nothing.

 

[GluteusMaximus]

Good job doing all those squats after such a night and day!

Hope he gets well soon.

 

[JauntyAngle]

There is most certainly a "jump" in the power clean. We've all seen low, mid and high level weightlifter's feet leave the floor when cleaning. An explosive triple extension followed by the feet leaving the floor sure looks like a jump to me. Maybe we have different definitions of what a jump is. If that's the case, I just don't care. Semantics get in the way teaching beginners how to get strong.

Don't want to derail WC's log, and I am not really qualified to argue the point anyway. Obviously we don't agree, but fortunately there is no rule about everyone agreeing!

I would say, though, that generally I like Rippetoe's stuff. Love SS the book, enjoyed his programme, liked quite a few of his articles and videos. I just think his explanation of "hip drive" in the squat is weird, I can't personally get on with the Olympic press, and if I am going to choose between him vs the coaching mainstream on the Oly lifts, I choose the coaching mainstream.

 

[eastNYgoon138]

Don't want to derail WC's log, and I am not really qualified to argue the point anyway. Obviously we don't agree, but fortunately there is no rule about everyone agreeing!

I would say, though, that generally I like Rippetoe's stuff. Love SS the book, enjoyed his programme, liked quite a few of his articles and videos. I just think his explanation of "hip drive" in the squat is weird, I can't personally get on with the Olympic press, and if I am going to choose between him vs the coaching mainstream on the Oly lifts, I choose the coaching mainstream.

There's a jump in the clean. I don't know what else to say. I have this argument with a lot of people. And I just pull up videos of lifter's feet leaving the floor after a triple extension. I don't know what everyone around here considers a jump, but that seems like one too me.

But really, the whole jump/shrug or extend/drop thing is a non issue to me. I train total beginner lifters. Mostly people just wanting to get in shape but also a lot of athletes using lifting as GPP. So for them, thinking "jump" is much, much more useful than anything else. The soccer moms will never clean more than their body weight. Jumping is just fine for them. They don't need to concern themselves with moving around the bar. They just don't give a fuck. Learning it that way isn't fun, is too complicated and doesn't resonate with normal people who have work, kids and gossip on their mind. For the athletes, again, the jump is the appropriate cue. Whatever sport they're playing they will most likely be acting against something. Pushing another player, throwing a ball, going for a take down etc. They'll be jumping. They'll be fighting against something. Not doing gymnastics with a perfectly designed apparatus for moving weight. Pulling and jumping against the weight will resonate with a typical athlete over any other cues. Trust me.

Yea, the hip drive is a funky cue, that doesn't resonate with everyone. I don't think it's as necessary as Rip believes it is. And the olympic press is definitely not for beginners. I have no idea why he has that in a program meant for beginners. At his seminars he shows both his standard and oly versions. But, the ply press is the most efficient way to overhead press with no leg drive. No real argument there. So for intermediate or advanced lifters, it's a great technique.

 

[Jake Pudenz]

There definitely isn't a jump in the clean. You don't actively jump during the clean. I understand that for your purposes of teaching your clientele it doesn't matter but weightlifters aren't jumping.

 

[eastNYgoon138]

There definitely isn't a jump in the clean. You don't actively jump during the clean. I understand that for your purposes of teaching your clientele it doesn't matter but weightlifters aren't jumping.

That guy's feet left the ground. Barely, but they did. Just because weightlifters don't think about jumping when doing a clean doesn't mean they aren't actually jumping. When I shoot I don't think about pulling the trigger, I think "squeeze". It's still pulling the trigger though.

And like you said, for my purposes it works. For teaching athletes and normal people, not weightlifters. It's funny, but weightlifters probably make up 1% of the population out there practicing cleans.

 

[Jake Pudenz]

I won't argue with that point at all. Weightlifters are in the minority.

However, leaving the ground doesn't equal jumping. You can tell a huge difference between someone who is consciously jump/shrugging and someone "catapulting", as Don McCauley calls it.

As a self taught lifter, I can tell you there is a very real difference between the two.

 

[eastNYgoon138]

I won't argue with that point at all. Weightlifters are in the minority.

However, leaving the ground doesn't equal jumping. You can tell a huge difference between someone who is consciously jump/shrugging and someone "catapulting", as Don McCauley calls it.

As a self taught lifter, I can tell you there is a very real difference between the two.

Yea, I agree it's sort of a grey zone. And obviously I'm not very experienced with the oly lifts, I'm not even comfortable discussing this with you lol But on the rare occasion when a lifter at my gym shows interest in weightlifting and they get stronger, we start talking "catapult". I've really only done this maybe half a dozen times because that is where the extent of my weightlifting knowledge ends, but I have weened a few lifters off of the "jump" and explained how to "extend/drop". The gym owner is a competitive weightlifter(I think he qualified for nationals or something is competing in Europe in a few months) and usually helps with that sort of thing though. I'm there for the powerlifting/strongman stuff.

 

[WitchCraft]

Hm, interesting discussion about the cleans. I'm pretty sure I do them wrong, but I like them! At some point in my chaotic life, I'll post a form check...

5/1/2013

Warm up: C2 Rower 2:34

Power Cleantechnique work with the bar
65 x 3
65 x 3
65 x 3
65 x 3
65 x 3

Deadlift
132 x 5
156 x 5
176 x 3
185 x 3
185 x 3
185 x 3

Bench
bar x 10
65 x 5
88 x 5
100 x 5
100 x 5
100 x 5

Notes: Tired today. But I got my shit done.

 

[eastNYgoon138]

Notes: Tired today. But I got my shit done.

Damn straight

 

[WitchCraft]

5/3/2013

Warm up: C2 Rower 2:33; felt very fatigued
Med ball complex

Squat
bar x 5
65 x 5
85 x 5
95 x 5
115 x 3
135 x 3
145 x 3
::belted::
155 x 2
165 x 1
165 x 1
165 x 1
165 x 1
165 x 5 rep PR!!!!

Weighted Chins
BW x 5
BW +5 x 5
BW +5 x 5

Bulgarian split squats (each leg)
BW x 10
BW x 10

Empty prowler pushes
200' run x 3

Notes: Will be uploading a squat video soon. Hip felt shatty today and I felt weak. Somehow I pulled it together and squatted a new 5RM.

 

[WitchCraft]

Yesterday's squatssss