DDP scored 6 takedowns for a total of 2 minutes of control time. Why should that be worth anything?

[AstralPanda]

Who said Sean did more damage? More superficial damage?

I watched Sean's leg have trouble after one of those leg kicks but people pretend that anything other than a punch causes damage.

Again, it's MMA and Dricus landed a lot of big kicks, landed takedowns, landed punches (even if they were fewer) and pressed the action.

Almost every kick he "landed" was checked

Which hurts Dricus just as much as it does Sean.

 

[chinarice]

Almost every kick he "landed" was checked

Which hurts Dricus just as much as it does Sean.

No they weren't. One of them literally hindered Sean's movement when he went to put his foot back down.

DDP also landed harder punches. I have damage meters on my screen

 

[AstralPanda]

No they weren't. One of them literally hindered Sean's movement when he went to put his foot back down.

DDP also landed harder punches. I have damage meters on my screen

Dricus didn't land much of anything in those first three rounds.

Almost every punch whiffed, kick checked.

He started doing some damage in 4th.

But still, overall wasn't landing much.

 

[chinarice]

Dricus didn't land much of anything in those first three rounds.

Almost every punch whiffed, kick checked.

He started doing some damage in 4th.

But still, overall wasn't landing much.

Almost every punch Strickland landed was a baby jab, didn't land anything else of note at all. No grappling.

I too can disregard everything.

 

[ufcfan4]

If anything, I was more impressed at Strickland’s ability to negate the grappling. Immediately working his way to his feet when a very strong fighter like DDP put him on the ground was pretty nuts.

But I think DDP’s takedowns had at least one benefit, It may have made Strickland switch up some of the things he was doing well with. Fewer teeps and kicks in general as the fight progressed, probably because he knew DDP could ground him.

There were a couple of times when Dricus tried to throw a bomb as Strickland was regaining his feet but nothing of note connected.

 

[AstralPanda]

Almost every punch Strickland landed was a baby jab, didn't land anything else of note at all. No grappling.

I too can disregard everything.

Strickland wasn't exactly impressive either.

think we can all agree on that

But even if they were just jabs, they were a lot more significant than landing barely anything.

Dricus himself said those jabs felt like rocks.

And his face looked like a mess after the fight.

 

[chinarice]

Strickland wasn't exactly impressive either.

think we can all agree on that

But even if they were just jabs, they were a lot more significant than landing barely anything.

Dricus himself said those jabs felt like rocks.

And his face looked like a mess after the fight.

Sean's face was almost completely red from blood lol

 

[AstralPanda]

Sean's face was almost completely red from blood lol

Which can be credited to a single elbow.

It doesn't change anything about what I've said here.

Dricus won rounds by shadow boxing air and hitting takedowns that amounted to nothing while getting outlanded multiple fold. Even if they were just jabs.

 

[Oscar Madison]

DDP should've received a Warning -- then have a Point taken for takedowns without legit ground-and-pound or submission attempts.

Stalling -- Take a Point!

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

because sean did nothing to make up for it. it actually really doesn't count for much, that just shows you how little sean actually did in there.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

A guy lands 100 punches but can't stop his opponent or even drop him .... Should those punches be worth anything?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Which can be credited to a single elbow.

It doesn't change anything about what I've said here.

Dricus won rounds by shadow boxing air and hitting takedowns that amounted to nothing while getting outlanded multiple fold. Even if they were just jabs.

landing 1 out of 10 haymakers while the other 9 are blocked on the arms > landing 4 out of 10 baby jabs. sean's jab was not effective whatsoever for most of the fight.

 

[chinarice]

Which can be credited to a single elbow.

It doesn't change anything about what I've said here.

Dricus won rounds by shadow boxing air and hitting takedowns that amounted to nothing while getting outlanded multiple fold. Even if they were just jabs.

That's not why he won. That's just why you think he won

 

[Oz.Pride]

0 ground control, 0 ground strikes, 0 submission attempts, 0 ground POSITIONING. Sean immediately got up, nullified/negated the wrestling, incurred no physical damage or control time, brought it back to a neutral standing position.

Negating the wrestling would have meant not getting taken down

 

[markys00]

0 ground control, 0 ground strikes, 0 submission attempts, 0 ground POSITIONING. Sean immediately got up, nullified/negated the wrestling, incurred no physical damage or control time, brought it back to a neutral standing position.

The fact you said he had to get back to neutral position implies something... Sure it's not hugly scoring, but wrestling is a part of mma.

 

[HereticBD]

One take down has been equal to 4 minutes and 59 seconds of dominance, since as long as I can remember. It's stupid, but it is what it is.

 

[KoreanZawmbie]

i swear, after every fight there is some new fad or some non-sense narrative you guys always point out

"Oh take downs don't count anymore."

 

[fortheo]

Round 2?

If the impact were equal, then why did your eye swell up so much?

Because sean doesn't have eyeballs on his body to swell up for you to help you jab lovers notice good body work? Dricus did some of his best work to the body all fight. Seriously, people have boxing focused lenses and can't get over Sean's jab even when he's getting a leg slammed into his ribs at full force in rounds where they landed a similar amount of strikes. Dricus also opened a cut in round 2 -- not the big one -- a small one near the other eye, but still a cut

The round was close as shit. It's understandable to give it fo the guy that forced the fight everywhere. If you want to give it to Sean, it's fine, but surely people can see why the judges sided with dricus and why takedowns would only help dricus in these close rounds

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Shadowboxing at air while getting outlanded by 2-3x in clean strikes shouldn't win you a fight.

Imagine if we gave Floyd Mayweathers opponents rounds just for being active, looking like they're doing significant.

The boxing community would be irrate.

Because it's not about throwing strikes, dancing around, moving forward, being aggressive

It's about landing.

Who landed the most strikes. Who did the most damage.

Dricus shadowboxed his way to victory.

The fact that it's so split just shows how big of a problem there is with mma scoring.

DDP is like a mortal kombat character, even his shadowboxing sliced Strickland's face open. imagine what REAL boxing would've done.

 

[fortheo]

Who said Sean did more damage? More superficial damage? 1 strike can equate to superficial damage and it can be caused by glancing shots. A shot to the jaw can leave no mark and rock your world. A kick to the leg can hinder movement. A body kick can crack ribs. You can't see a lot of stuff that isn't landing to the face though.

I watched Sean's leg have trouble after one of those leg kicks but people pretend that anything other than a punch causes damage.

Again, it's MMA and Dricus landed a lot of big kicks, landed takedowns, landed punches (even if they were fewer) and pressed the action.

Finally, someone gets it. In three rounds, they were tit for tat in output, but Sean's "tit" was mostly jabs, and dricus "tat" was full power body kicks, some high kicks, hooks and straights, but because body damage isn't as easily visible, fighters are favoring jabs over full forced kicks slammed into ribs....