DDP scored 6 takedowns for a total of 2 minutes of control time. Why should that be worth anything?

Seahawks Fan said:
According to UFC fight stats DDP scored 6 takedowns for a total of 2 minutes and 8 seconds of control time. That roughly an average of 21 seconds of control time per takedown. Why the hell should that be worth a damn thing? In my opinion if a guy gets taken down but immediately gets back up with taking damage then he effectively countered his opponents offense. Getting up from a takedown is like slipping a punch. Let's fix the criteria please
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maybe it wasn't worth anything, according to the judges.
 
Matt returns should be scored less than take downs imo. Look at the second round. No way DDP should have took that round with a takedown and a matt return that led to a whopping 19 seconds of control time.
 
sdpdude9 said:
If we both land the same amount of strikes with the same amount of impact but I take you down, that should make that tiny difference to sway it.
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Round 2?

If the impact were equal, then why did your eye swell up so much?
 
chinarice said:
The fact that the decision was split, these forums are split and MMa media are split should let everyone realize they need to cool it with the robbery bullshit

He landed more kicks, better kicks and was the better grappler.

It's not just a punchy punchy match
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Shadowboxing at air while getting outlanded by 2-3x in clean strikes shouldn't win you a fight.

Imagine if we gave Floyd Mayweathers opponents rounds just for being active, looking like they're doing significant.

The boxing community would be irrate.

Because it's not about throwing strikes, dancing around, moving forward, being aggressive

It's about landing.

Who landed the most strikes. Who did the most damage.

Dricus shadowboxed his way to victory.

The fact that it's so split just shows how big of a problem there is with mma scoring.
 
Seahawks Fan said:
According to UFC fight stats DDP scored 6 takedowns for a total of 2 minutes and 8 seconds of control time. That roughly an average of 21 seconds of control time per takedown. Why the hell should that be worth a damn thing? In my opinion if a guy gets taken down but immediately gets back up with taking damage then he effectively countered his opponents offense. Getting up from a takedown is like slipping a punch. Let's fix the criteria please
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Concur.

Meaningless takedowns that did absolutely nothing.

Weak AF, imo.
 
AstralPanda said:
Shadowboxing at air while getting outlanded by 2-3x in clean strikes shouldn't win you a fight.

Imagine if we gave Floyd Mayweathers opponents rounds just for being active, looking like they're doing significant.

The boxing community would be irrate.

Because it's not about throwing strikes, dancing around, moving forward, being aggressive

It's about landing.

Who landed the most strikes. Who did the most damage.

Dricus shadowboxed his way to victory.

The fact that it's so split just shows how big of a problem there is with mma scoring.
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This isn't boxing. Floyd Mayweather can go choke on a big bag of dicks.
 
AstralPanda said:
Shadowboxing at air while getting outlanded by 2-3x in clean strikes shouldn't win you a fight.

Imagine if we gave Floyd Mayweathers opponents rounds just for being active, looking like they're doing significant.

The boxing community would be irrate.

Because it's not about throwing strikes, dancing around, moving forward, being aggressive

It's about landing.

Who landed the most strikes. Who did the most damage.

Dricus shadowboxed his way to victory.

The fact that it's so split just shows how big of a problem there is with mma scoring.
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Yeah I thought Dricus missed most of the shots, like badly missed.
 
I get not going back to the days of a 10 second takedown at the end of the round giving you a 10-9, but they should be worth something at least. It wasn't just a one off. Plus, did Strickland want to be taken down? I doubt it. It's an offensive technique which was successful. It's a hard spectrum to score.
 
chinarice said:
This isn't boxing. Floyd Mayweather can go choke on a big bag of dicks.
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The analogy remains true.

Throwing punches is great, but what lands is the distinguishing factor of who's really winning rounds.

Even if on the surface, it appears one guy is being more aggressive and active.

Boxing understands this. Because it's a more experienced and developed community.

MMA isn't there yet and this fight is a great example of it.
 
Maybe because he pushed the action through most of the fight
 
AstralPanda said:
The analogy remains true.

Throwing punches is great, but what lands is the distinguishing factor of who's really winning rounds.

Even if on the surface, it appears one guy is being more aggressive and active.

Boxing understands this. Because it's a more experienced and developed community.

MMA isn't there yet and this fight is a great example of it.
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Again, it's not boxing.

There's more to this fight than just punchy punchy.

The further they get away from boxing ideologies, the better off MMA will be. Boxing is so fucking rigged I can't even watch it now. It's terrible.
 
5th round was awesome, they were swinging wild.
Great first title fight of 2024.

I thought Sean won after securing the last round but am perfectly fine with the judges decision. Tough and close fight.
 
chinarice said:
Again, it's not boxing.

There's more to this fight than just punchy punchy.

The further they get away from boxing ideologies, the better off MMA will be. Boxing is so fucking rigged I can't even watch it now. It's terrible.
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You're missing the point.

No, it's not boxing. But the analogy remains true.

Landing strikes/ damage Is probably the most significant factor of scoring.

MMA as a whole simply isn't as developed when it comes to accurately assessing what actually landed and didn't.

And this fight Is a perfect example.

Moving forward, being aggressive and pressuring doesn't mean anything if it doesn't amount to strikes landed.
 
AstralPanda said:
You're missing the point.

No, it's not boxing. But the analogy remains true.

Landing strikes/ damage Is probably the most significant factor of scoring.

MMA as a whole simply isn't as developed when it comes to accurately assessing what actually landed and didn't.

And this fight Is a perfect example.

Moving forward, being aggressive and pressuring doesn't mean anything if it doesn't amount to strikes landed.
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Who said Sean did more damage? More superficial damage? 1 strike can equate to superficial damage and it can be caused by glancing shots. A shot to the jaw can leave no mark and rock your world. A kick to the leg can hinder movement. A body kick can crack ribs. You can't see a lot of stuff that isn't landing to the face though.

I watched Sean's leg have trouble after one of those leg kicks but people pretend that anything other than a punch causes damage.

Again, it's MMA and Dricus landed a lot of big kicks, landed takedowns, landed punches (even if they were fewer) and pressed the action.
 
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