DDP scored 6 takedowns for a total of 2 minutes of control time. Why should that be worth anything?

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According to UFC fight stats DDP scored 6 takedowns for a total of 2 minutes and 8 seconds of control time. That's roughly an average of 21 seconds of control time per takedown. Why the hell should that be worth a damn thing? In my opinion if a guy gets taken down but immediately gets back up without taking damage then he effectively countered his opponents offense. Getting up from a takedown is like slipping a punch. Let's fix the criteria please
 
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I don’t think he did much with the take downs. He never really held Sean down for very long and certainly didn’t do much damage when on top for the short amount of time he was. I think as far as damage goes they did about the same. Honestly it was a close fight, but DDP had Sean back peddling most of the fight and like a lot of people said prior to fight, both guys are pressure fighters and move forward a lot. Sean isn’t good fighting off his back foot so the question was who would be the one moving forward more. And ddp ended up being that guy. He looked busier, but I believe Sean landed more head strikes. His were mostly jabs though. It kind of looked like a glorified sparring match. I wasn’t really impressed with either guy to be honest.
 
It’s not worth much but enough to make a difference in otherwise razor thin rounds in my opinion. I disagree they’re worth absolutely nothing, but like I said enough to make that tiny difference.
 
I don’t think the takedowns had nothing to do with him winning the fight…

He was the more effective striker of the two for 3 out of the 5 rounds (4 out of the 5 rounds on my card)…

Until the final round, Strickland seemed to only want to throw his jab and occasionally a right hand. Du Plessis actually went after Strickland with power punches with the intention of actually hurting him.
 
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It’s not worth much but enough to make a difference in otherwise razor thin rounds in my opinion. I disagree they’re worth absolutely nothing, but like I said enough to make that tiny difference.
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They're not worth anything. It's not effective grappling so completely irrelevant in scoring the round.
 
It makes a difference. Not a huge difference, but it is an MMA match. Not a boxing match. If you get the takedown especially in how Dricus was taking Strickland down, they will factor into the scoring. It takes a lot of skills, power, technique and expenditure of energy to take someone down. Even if the other person is not held down, the success of taking the fight to the ground itself, has points. Dricus outlanded Strickland in round 2, 3 and 4 so it was combination of him pressing the action, getting the takedowns, landing significant strikes and also damage that won him that fight. It was close no doubt and I would not blame anyone for believing Strickland won, but all of these factors matter.
 
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chinarice said:
It wasn't just takedowns that won things for dricus. People acting like MMA is a boxing match is rather odd to me
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Really? Then what else did he have over strickland, who was landing at will? Sean out struck him, landed with a higher percentage of accuracy, and clearly caused more damage.

The fact is that mma scoring is all over the place. Those takedowns did little but stall the fight.
 
If the takedown itself is the reward, no strikes made on the ground. Then shouldn't you only judge it based off the striking?
 
For the most part I agree.

He was credited with ZERO ground strikes in the entire fight.

He did have 1-2 takedowns that were borderline "slams" that I think it is reasonable to give some credit for the slam having some impact.
 
He would've won the rounds even without the takedowns, they just sealed it even more for me.
He controlled where the fight was taking place and took him down with authority.
 
Blazeblack said:
Really? Then what else did he have over strickland, who was landing at will? Sean out struck him, landed with a higher percentage of accuracy, and clearly caused more damage.

The fact is that mma scoring is all over the place. Those takedowns did little but stall the fight.
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The fact that the decision was split, these forums are split and MMa media are split should let everyone realize they need to cool it with the robbery bullshit

He landed more kicks, better kicks and was the better grappler.

It's not just a punchy punchy match
 
0 ground control, 0 ground strikes, 0 submission attempts, 0 ground POSITIONING. Sean immediately got up, nullified/negated the wrestling, incurred no physical damage or control time, brought it back to a neutral standing position.
 
Lets pretend there was zero takedowns, and the fight was only the striking, well I'm still not convinced Sean won. Too hesitant and tentative in the striking as usual, and DDP was just so much more dynamic and throwing tons.

Sean doesn't thrown enough, people just only know the Adesanya fight because of the 15 seconds memory these days. Sean lost too Cannonier not that long ago for the same issue, just on loop all the time.
 
sdpdude9 said:
If we both land the same amount of strikes with the same amount of impact but I take you down, that should make that tiny difference to sway it.
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Not according to the unified rules.
 
It should be worth something.

Have you ever done any grappling training and tried to take down a strong guy who is resisting you every step of the way? it takes a lot out of both of you.
 
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