Dana White: "Travis Browne should retire."

[listrahtes]

He was utterly overrated since the beginning..
Some luck wins ( two 12 to 6 elbows, spamming the front kick against AO and finally getting it ) and all of a sudden people thought he was an " athletic freak ", " the HW Dom Cruz " and BS like that..

Truth is his technique is terrible even if he is/was quite fast at some point..and his chin that wasn't excellent to begin with seems to be gone..

He is the ultimate overachiever..

You could see the potential in his earlier fights. He moved very fast and was strong with a good punch. Thats a very solid base and people were not off to see the potential of a permanent top5 fighter. Contrary to Schaub were you could see from the beginning he would be at best a mid level fighter.

Imo his head or more whats between his ears is his downfall. He could have built on this base but in the contrary he regressed and just wasnt mentally able to grow as a fighter. T

Literally too dumb to learn.

 

[Eyepokesftw]

Ronda doesn't even come to watch his fights. He might as well retire yea

 

[RyTrapp0]

Very thoughtful and nicely written. I agree with everything you said.

Props, thanks man! I like to think that I can assess this stuff pretty reasonably and offer opinions that are as thought out & unbiased as a fan of this sport realistically can, but you never really know how true that is until you get some feedback, so I appreciate the compliment

I honestly don't think a move to JW will have this profound effect in his game as he has always been overrated. His KO's against Barnett and Gonzaga, while impressive, was a product of circumstance. People assumed that he was this smooth and slick HW striker because of his emulation of Dom's style when he really was nothing more than a durable and unorthodox who no longer is either one of those.

Like i said above - under JW, 16-2-1, w/ wins across 2 decisions, 2 subs, and 12 by strikes(7 KOs, 5 TKOs - who else has a resume like that?).
So, if so many of his wins aren't the result of Browne applying his ability & skill, but are literally ONLY the result of luck and 'circumstance', are ALL of his 12 KOs lucky, and/or circumstantial? If not, then why is it only his biggest wins that are lucky? That are ONLY the result of 'circumstance', NOT skill & ability? I get that fights aren't just 'black & white', that 'Ws' & 'Ls' don't tell the story of the fight, but, seriously...

It's EASY to criticize Travis Browne, it's EASY to pick apart his fights, his style, HIM. But this doesn't hold an ounce of water, this is just utterly absurd.
He has speed, he has length, he [had] footwork lightyears ahead of pretty much anyone else at HW(including plodding ass Overeem) - it would be luck if his KOs WEREN'T the result of his ability & skills, because, having 12 wins by KO out of 16 ISN'T luck or circumstance - it's a very clear pattern.
And, like I explained above, his chin is as good as it ever was - how many times has he been knocked out COLD by a SINGLE strike? When Browne gets KO'd, it happens because his opponent pressures him back to the fence, where he stops moving laterally, stands straight up, with his chin right up in the air, and it takes multiple strikes to put him away. The moment someone[coach] gets his ass off the fence, you'll stop seeing him getting finished with strikes(well, it'll happen significantly less, like earlier in his career anyways).

Whether or not Greg & Mike could turn his career around like they did Arlovsky's, I don't know, that's purely up to Travis. They can if he is capable of and willing to reset everything mentally - having the humility & motivation to wipe everything out, clean sheet, starting from square one - but, if he can't make the necessary mental changes, then obviously no amount of training from anyone will improve things

 

[RyTrapp0]

And here is the thing - I am all for trash talk if both fighters are ok with it, they can use do whatever they want to promote, but let's face it Lewis is not the p4p trash talker and if you want to dig at someone personally - keep it smart. His constant attack on Ronda is just... so wrong... I actually wonder if he ever hits something close to sexual harassment suit by going after her "fine ass" (tho the chances of that a slim). We all saw Johnson's recent "inbred" attack and it got him nowhere. Travis is on a loss streak and way too polite for anything being gained from attacking him at that point anyway

You nailed it, dead on. Frankly, I think that the only reason that Derrick's god awful shit talk gets attention is because it's so cringy. I mean, bonus points for being 'original', I guess, but that "no such thing as bad publicity" thing doesn't exactly hold true when you make everyone think that you're a scumbag. I mean, the Ronda shit is pretty pathetic, but it's downright fucking stupid when you realize that the dude has a fiance & three kids

 

[DannyNL]

He's got that Ronda Rousey money to spend so he doesn't need to fight anymore.

 

[locust rising]

God you're desperate as fuck for attention

 

[Diavolo222]

WAR OLEINIK

 

[J0N0]

No way, I've just started enjoying his fights!

 

[peytonlucy]

Should retire means you aren't going to be paid much in the future. The real question is did he sign a prenup? Something tells me ronda's mom is smart enough for that.

 

[Rolento]

I'd say rematch bigfoot but even he wooped his ass damn...

 

[The_Renaissance]

Goodbye Travis. I won't miss the bloke, he seems like a tool.

 

[PhilJackObrien]

its okay for you to go to your refrigerator and grab a bottle of water...take a sip, put it back inside your fridge...go back to your room then take a nap.

Thank you, good Sir.

 

[outlaw order]

Thank you, good Sir.

anything to help my fellow sherbro

 

[chaoticmayhem]

He doesn't care about fighting. It's just a job at this point. You see this with a lot of fighters. They lose the passion for it. He was never really trained to be a fighter to begin with and got into the fight game late in life.

 

[Deleted member 436105]

He seemed like someone who got by on natural talent and ability but now that those tools aren't working he seems lost

 

[Ying Li]

He needs to impregnant Rousey ASAP so he's got payments the rest of his life. Transform into a Chef or something. He better kiss her ass very well or she'll bail on him, take the kid and leave him no payments.

Don't get fucked over like Brian Caraway dude.

 

[GSP_37]

Ronda will throw her weight around so he continues getting UFC paychecks.

 

[Holysmoke]

Basically he can.
His wife had enough money to keep all the family.

did that dumb cluck not get a prenup?

 

[StoneWT]

I'll put $1,000 on Ronda taking birth control to prevent pregnancy. She is too much of a "me" person to split the attention of her man with a child. Plus, she is probably paranoid about splitting her money with Travis as the dough isn't rolling in like it used to.

If anything, Browne is getting worn down from staying with the wrong woman. A depressed Rousey with the mentality of a child isn't healthy to be around. A former pro fighter that bans interviewers from asking her about fighting? Dresses herself like a mentally retarded 8-year old pretending to be an adult? If she does those things in public, what kind of cringe, soul-draining stuff is she doing to Browne?

 

[djolegeorgee]

Travis loses to Stipe, Junior, Cain, Werdum and Lewis regardless if he's a Jackson's or not.